Vulcano Easy Valve or Arizer Solo

[Brachmanhuxley]

Hi,

I'm new on this forum so I don't know if I posted this in the correct section.
For quite some time I've been very interested in getting a vaporizer to reduce the harm done by smoking and to get the most out of weed.
I'm aware of the fact that there is a thread covering the subject of the Arizer Solo vaporizer but there is so much pages full of information that it becomes a little difficult to find what you're looking for.

Let me begin by saying what type of consumer I am. At home I use to smoke like 3 times per week and not very much. It's with friends (at their houses, in parcs, etc.), at weekends, that I smoke most. Because I smoke less at home I thought that a portable vaporizer might be a better choice in my case and after doing a lot of research and watching reviews on youtube, the Arizer Solo seemed like a very good option. But after giving it a second thought, I don't see too much issue in taking a Vulcano to a friend's place as I usually go by car.
So, the only pro of getting a Solo and not a Vulcano would be being able to take it to a parc or some place like that, as I've read a Volcano is a far better vaporizer in terms of vapor quality, durability, etc. I actually tried the Volcano once and I really liked the taste as well as the effects.

To make up my mind I would like to know how big the difference is between those two vaporizers in terms of vapor quality and durability. If there's not such a big difference I would buy the Solo as it can be taken almost everywhere from what I've heard, even if it's a little heavy, but if the difference is considerable (and a friend who has tried a couple of vaporizers says there's a huge difference between portables and non portables) I think I'll get the Vulcano and take it with me whenever I go to a friend's by car. Actually I would also like to know what you think of taking the Vulcano outside of my house, even if it's not designed as a portable

I would appreciate any input

Peace!

 

[Caligula]

Volcano vs Solo? These truly are two different animals meant for two different jobs.

That said, I personally believe (as do a lot of others here) that the Volcano is no longer anywhere near worth what it costs. Not because it works any worse than it once did, but because there are options that work as well or better for much less money.

As for the Solo its a solid choice for a first vape. You already know it's portable (slightly larger then a redbull) and it produces very tasty and medicating vapor. Plus it doesnt chew through battery charges when you use it. It is also literally built to last. I once saw a member here post about his Solo that got run over by a car and left in the snow overnight. It still worked like a champ the next day. And at $160 or less, it's a bargain compared to a volcano.

If you want a plug in for the sake of having extra power on demand, maybe look at a EpicVape E-Nano for a ~$200 plug in that's smaller than a Solo and outperformed my friends Volcano any day of the week before he bought a Nano too.

Or if you have the funds and really want a super high end vape, look at the VapeXhale Cloud Evo, or the Herbalizer.

All of the above mentioned vapes have their own threads here on FC, BTW.

 

[Brachmanhuxley]

Thanks a lot for your help. Yes, I'm aware that comparing such different vaporizers isn't really possible, and that's why I asked such specific questions

I didn't say that I don't live in the US so there's not as much choice but I guess I could look for online shops that ship to Europe. I've heard good things about the Silver Surfer and of course the Herbalizer but I can't afford that last one lol.

How harsh is the vape from the Solo compared to that of the Vulcano? I tend to get throat discomfort rather easily (that's one of the main reasons I want to give up smoking) so I don't want a vaporizer that is too "aggressive" on my throat. I would also like to know if the new models are actually better than the older ones, since I have heard they provide worse taste...

Like you, I think the Vulcano is overprized, but if it's going to last many years and the vaping experience is great with this device I would look at it like a reasonable investment, as the shipping may heighten the prize of another vaporizer to a point where it becomes as expensive as the Vulcano. Just speculating, I don't really know too much about this subject.

Again, thanks for your input and I hope to be part of the growing vaping community soon

 

[Delta3DStudios]

The Vulcano is no longer the king of vapes - there's a misconception that it's the only type of true vaporizer (How many of us have told someone we vaporize and they immediately say "oh, that volcano thing with the bags, right?")

If you're afraid of harsh temperatures, why not induldge yourself in some water diffusion with any vape you choose? We have several great threads dedicated to very affordable quality bubblers:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-bubbler.5255/page-456
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/d...-you-must-post-a-review-see-first-post.15709/

Price doesn't correlate to durability. I have a $100 vape which could outlive me. And I have a $200 vape which could put an elephant on it's ass and it runs 24/7 so I can use it at a moment's notice (It's a simple device, very few parts to fail)

Do yourself a favor - stop questioning which to buy, and get the solo, hell if you're tight on cash - buy one used! They come up quite often on this site. There's a reason why the official thread has over 30,000 POSTS and the Volcano only has 1400. Seriously, I'm pissed at myself for passing on the Solo for my first vape because I thought it looked "boring" and "ugly"

 

[Brachmanhuxley]

Thanks for your input Ratchett!

I don't think it looks boring. It's just that everyone I've heard agrees that plug-in vapes are better than portables and that's why I would rather buy a plug-in vaporizer (doesn't have to be the Vulcano, that's just the one I tried and read very good opinions of) provided I can take it with me to a friend's house without too much issues

The reason I was thinking about getting the Solo was not only because it's cheaper but because I could take it everywhere, but I'm not so tight on cash that I would prefer the Solo over a plug-in vaporizer that's provides a better experience

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Thanks for your input Ratchett!

I don't think it looks boring. It's just that everyone I've heard agrees that plug-in vapes are better than portables and that's why I would rather buy a plug-in vaporizer (doesn't have to be the Vulcano, that's just the one I tried and read very good opinions of) provided I can take it with me to a friend's house without too much issues

The reason I was thinking about getting the Solo was not only because it's cheaper but because I could take it everywhere, but I'm not so tight on cash that I would prefer the Solo over a plug-in vaporizer that's provides a better experience

If you want a fun portable which can be used as a desktop vape - check out the Lotus Vaporizer - it's quite challenging to get the hang of using the torch - but it's the best $100 investment I've ever made. (It's my off-the-grid vape)

 

[headdoctor]

As others have said, they are indeed different beasts with different advantages. I own both; I've used the Volcano for about three or four years, the Solo for about a year. The difference in cost is considerable, and not something easily dismissed. And the Volcano is obviously not nearly as portable; I do bring it with me sometimes on trips, but I wouldn't want to bring it to a friend's house every week. It's fairly slow to warm up, not particularly efficient, and of course it does balloons, not everyone's favorite. I agree that the Volcano isn't the cutting edge that it was, and that there are other vapes on the market that have surpassed it, at least in some ways.

All this said, I love the Volcano and have little use for the Solo. Or the Pax, which I owned for a while. The Volcano is incredibly durable, incredibly easy to use, and quite good with flavor. The Solo doesn't even come close. It's fussier, harder to draw vapor, has a mixed history of reliability, has breakable parts, and is simply not as well made. I do understand why people like the Solo, and I'm not convinced that the Volcano makes sense for the uses you want, but it's a far better machine than the Solo. And I'd add that if I were going to own only one vape, I'd want it to be a high-end desktop unit.

At the moment, lusting after something new to try (VAS), I'm looking hard at the MiniVap. Given your desired uses, it might be a good option for you. I have never used one, so I can't recommend it personally, but it might be something for you to consider. Also, I've used the DBV quite a bit, and it's a very solid, affordable plug-in. I'm a fan.

 

[Caligula]

I have to disagree that the Solo isn't well made.

 

[Brachmanhuxley]

Thanks for sharing your experience headdoctor!

As you said, for the moment it will be my only vaporizer and I'm also of the opinion that a high quality plug-in vaporizer is a better option. That being said, I think a vaporizer that I could take with me to a friends place would be the one that suits me best and that's why I'm reading a lot about log vaporizers like the e-nano that is quite small.

I think you're very happy with your e-nano caligula Could you tell me a little about how the vapor quality (taste, potency, ratio herb amount/effect) compares to that of the volcano?

Thanks again!

 

[flickyourbic]

I've owned both a Volcano and a Solo. The Volcano is cool for social gatherings, that is it. I absolutely hated using it by myself or even with my ex-girlfriend. If you really want a bag setup just get an Extreme Q for a fraction of the cost while utilizing a whip.

The Solo was okay. I never used it on any glass or got any additional accessories or anything so I didn't use it to it's fullest potential. I sold it last year to buy my first oil rig. Personally I'd opt for an e-nano or Cloud instead. I hope to own either one in the near future.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

You can never go wrong starting out with a Solo. I agree with others that the Volcano is no longer anywhere near the top of the heap.

 

[Curiousone]

There may be better options for your needs, but a Plenty sounds like it could be up your alley. Easier to transport than the Volcano. Same maker. Great quality and effectiveness. Works great alone or in groups.

Not the most pleasant to look at, but functionality is great...as is customer service.

The Solo was an awesome first vape, but ultimately I needed something more powerful. Since I'm not a fan of long whips, glass, or bags...my options were limited. The Plenty fit the bill perfectly. It may be worth a look.

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

I agree the Plenty is a very good and powerful vape. Personally however I would recommend an E-nano if the OP was after a desktop. I find I get better results with less herb with the Enano. The Plenty is great for sharing and as Curiousone points out it is really convenient to use. The Volcano is more or less a one trick pony imo.

 

[Brachmanhuxley]

Wow, thanks a lot for all your fast replies

I had already checked out the Plenty but for that prize I think I prefer a handy desktop vaporizer with a nicer design lol and the E-Nano looks like it would suit me fine. However, at the moment I don't own a bubbler and I wouldn't get one right now, so I would like to know how efficient, etc. it is when used without a waterpipe.
On the website it says you only need to use 0,025-0,05g. Does that mean I would have to reload the glass stem a few times to get a decent high or is it really that efficient and with little amount you get the desired effects? I know this will vary depending on tolerance but I wouldn't like to need to reload too many times during every sesion.. .Also, how does the E-Nano compare to the Cloud Evo?

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Wow, thanks a lot for all your fast replies

I had already checked out the Plenty but for that prize I think I prefer a handy desktop vaporizer with a nicer design lol and the E-Nano looks like it would suit me fine. However, at the moment I don't own a bubbler and I wouldn't get one right now, so I would like to know how efficient, etc. it is when used without a waterpipe.
On the website it says you only need to use 0,025-0,05g. Does that mean I would have to reload the glass stem a few times to get a decent high or is it really that efficient and with little amount you get the desired effects? I know this will vary depending on tolerance but I wouldn't like to need to reload too many times during every sesion.. .Also, how does the E-Nano compare to the Cloud Evo?

The E-Nano is a great vape, and several people prefer to use it dry. However it's extremely small size (think small red-bull can), it works GREAT with water filtration. I highly suggest you check out the cheap glass bubblers thread - most of my glass cost under $40 each, shipped from china - and I use them every day (the same exact pieces are listed for $160 at my LHS!)

I usually run my Nano at 0.1G per load which is really good (and two get me nicely toasted). However, if you desire micro-packing, you can also do that by moving the screen closer to the heat (I'm sure you could do 0.01g if you REALLY wanted).

The nano is sexy to look at, efficient, extremely reliable, and very affordable. The Cloud Evo is a popular vape (just sort the thread list by reply count, I believe the EVO is at the top). I believe In some ways it's better than the Nano, but the nano is far more durable (Evo has a glass bamboo vapor path). Between the Evo and the Nano, i think it comes down to price - you can buy a whole lot of glass and a really nice exotic Nano for the price of an Evo.

To me personally, I was on a quest to find an awesome vape after I fucked combustion - bought 4 different vapes before I ended with the Nano. Since buying the Nano, I have no desire for another desktop vaporizer.

 

[max]

I would like to know how big the difference is between those two vaporizers in terms of vapor quality

Vapor quality doesn't vary by model. It varies by temp. There's no secret method that enables one vape maker to produce a better quality of vapor vs. another.

Volcano vs Solo? These truly are two different animals meant for two different jobs.

I agree. Don't know why you come down to an affordable portable vs. an expensive bag filler, other than the wide exposure/popularity of the two models. You've only scratched the surface of the vape market.

 

[ButterMan]

As an owner of both I say neither. After using the volcano for about a year I noticed it will make my lungs hurt if I do more than 5-6 bags in a day. (Could just be my old lungs) the heat source is made of aluminum and when I found that out it kind of freaked me out. I find the vapor to be really really dry. The balloons are not cool and they are expensive and loud! I stopped using my volcano a few months ago and have been using my solo and pax. These are both ok - MAJOR draw restriction makes my eyeballs feel like they are going to pop. But the thing that bothers me the most is I don't like the idea that I'm inhaling hot vapor off of something that was made in china. Call me a weirdo

 

[Brachmanhuxley]

Vapor quality doesn't vary by model. It varies by temp. There's no secret method that enables one vape maker to produce a better quality of vapor vs. another.


I agree. Don't know why you come down to an affordable portable vs. an expensive bag filler, other than the wide exposure/popularity of the two models. You've only scratched the surface of the vape market.

I know they are very different types of vaporizers, but both seemed to be of good quality and my actual question was if I could take the Volcano to a friend's place without too much issue and in that case I would have chosen it over the Solo because of its quality and reliability. But now that other members have shown me other options I think I will get the E-Nano which is small (so I can take it with me to any place where I can plug it in) and is said to provide a very good vaping experience.

As an owner of both I say neither. After using the volcano for about a year I noticed it will make my lungs hurt if I do more than 5-6 bags in a day. (Could just be my old lungs) the heat source is made of aluminum and when I found that out it kind of freaked me out. I find the vapor to be really really dry. The balloons are not cool and they are expensive and loud! I stopped using my volcano a few months ago and have been using my solo and pax. These are both ok - MAJOR draw restriction makes my eyeballs feel like they are going to pop. But the thing that bothers me the most is I don't like the idea that I'm inhaling hot vapor off of something that was made in china. Call me a weirdo

I think the newer models of the Solo have an improved air flow without that draw resistance issue. Nevertheless, as you said, the idea of inhaling hot vapor of something made in China isn't too appealing lol so I'll probably get an E-Nano

Edit: How precise is the rotary temperature controller of the E-Nano?

 

[Delta3DStudios]

The PWM controller on the Nano is more of a guidance - it's nowhere near as precise as a digital controller. But it works GREAT - simply set low (5.5 or 6) for flavor, and set to 6.5 or 7 for big clouds (8 for concentrates).

It's really not that complicated, but most of us usually find our favorite spot on the dial and stay around that (sometimes I like to have two sessions - one at lower temperature, then come back and set it to 7 to finish it off).

For the price of the Nano, you could easily buy it, try it out - and if it's not for you, toss it up on the Classifieds of this site - they sell quite fast around here. By the way, there is a 10% discount for the Nano - use coupon code FCLOVE

 

[Caligula]

Of you're in Europe remember you need a 220 to 120v step down converter

 

[Brachmanhuxley]

Of you're in Europe remember you need a 220 to 120v step down converter

Do you know if they have a physical store in Santa Ana or is it only a virtual shop?

 

[max]

the heat source is made of aluminum and when I found that out it kind of freaked me out.

It shouldn't have. Nothing wrong with it considering the temps involved.

But the thing that bothers me the most is I don't like the idea that I'm inhaling hot vapor off of something that was made in china. Call me a weirdo

You're not a weirdo, but you are obviously uninformed (like many are), to be put off by aluminum or the fact that a vape is made in China.

How precise is the rotary temperature controller of the E-Nano?

It's precise enough to get the job done just fine. If knowing the exact vaping temp is important to you (although it's not necessary), then maybe the 'cano is for you. In that respect it really can't be beat, especially if you go for the DIGIT.

Do you know if they have a physical store in Santa Ana or is it only a virtual shop?

If you mean Epicvape, it's on-line only.

 

[ButterMan]

@max you ever been to china?
I've been called many things but uninformed is not one of them

 

[headdoctor]

I have to disagree that the Solo isn't well made.

Just to be clear, I never said that the Solo isn't well made. I said that it's "not as well made" as the Volcano. The Solo is popular and is capable of being a solid unit. It has worked for me. But if we're comparing the build and quality control of the two vapes, the Volcano is clearly a more durable, consistent vape--whatever else you think about it.

 

[max]

@max you ever been to china?
I've been called many things but uninformed is not one of them

I guess you haven't noticed how many of the world's most reliable, well built products are made in China or some other country with cheap labor and fewer manufacturing regulations. As I've said many times, it's not where a product is made that's important, it's who makes it.

I've been called many things but uninformed is not one of them

Everyone is uninformed to some degree, since you can't know everything, and your view on Chinese made products shows you are uninformed on this subject. You're welcome to your opinion, but please don't spread it here. We don't appreciate quality vaporizers being labeled as inferior or dangerous just because the factory they're made in is located in one country vs. another.