Volcano Vaporizer is it worth the price?

[Ratm22]

Bag Fill time was a major issue. Yes it tasted equally good or better, but never had the edge to keep me away from combustion. I shattered my Extreme's heating cover, so I only got a few years out of it. The options it had was awesome, just never had the flare or patience for it.

 

[t-dub]

My HA has been an incredible first vape. It has survived numerous drops from counter height and just recently, I accidentally had some liquid go back through it and it still works fine. It hissed and steamed for a bit while it dried itself out . . . just keeps on going and vape bonging with it is amazing. The price on the HA, even the 2.2 model, is very reasonable for everything it does, with the quality of materials etc.

 

[beach bum]

I respectfully call bullshit. My Extreme Q outperforms the 2 Volcano classics that I've owned in every dimension except bag fill time and the absence of a valve system. The vapor is just as tasty, just as dense, and a higher temperature roof allows you to make much better use of concentrates. Elbow packs with the whip allow you to have deliciously devastating whip hits which rival the DBV and SSV, and it costs less than half as much as the Cano.

Please explain how the Q didn't fulfill your needs versus the Q, it might have been user error because I don't have one shred of that sentiment personally having owned the Volcano, Extreme Q, and also Herbalaire.

IME, an Extreme Q can fill in for either a volcano or a heavy hitting whip vape, all at a reasonable cost. There are some issues of airpath purity, but that is the only stone I can throw at the Q whatsoever.

I, too, believe the Q can certainly provide a quality vaping experience. We owned/used an Extreme for over two years and really enjoyed it - but it finally got damaged by a really clumsy friend. We replaced it with the Q, because we were comfortable with the product and the performance. If you're looking for something dual purpose (bags/whips), it's certainly worth consideration at that price point. I do think our SSV hits harder as a whip vape - but that is merely my opinion and others may have different experience.

 

[vorrange]

Why do you want bags so much? I am sorry if this sounds like a silly question but i find them cumbersome and the biggest advantage of bags for me are groups and motor-impaired people.

Since i don't want to buy vaporizers for other people and have all my motor skills, it is difficult for me to understand this preference in other people.

Most people tend to evolve from all-around models like the Arizer Extreme Q, or the Herbalaire to simpler models like logs or the portable solo just because it is easier and faster to use. Even whip models like the SSV and the DBV are being slowly replaced, although they have their place like all vaporizer types. This is my experience here at FC and the usual evolution with members here.

Since you already have a portable i would start with a good table vaporizer (unless you can buy both.. ), it seems you are ansious so there are a few with waiting lists who won't enter our choices.


But, and since you mention the Volcano is a bit out of your range, i would dismiss that option completely.

You won't go wrong with the EQ or the Herbalaire. The EQ seems to gather more followers and i think there is one in the Classifieds, although in need of small repairs. There is a thread where a user was indecisive between these two that can be helpfull.

Personally, i would get a log with a variable voltage power supply and then replace the iolite with another portable. But portables are another big decision to make since there are big and small portables, with many variables in between.

 

[beach bum]

Why do you want bags so much? I am sorry if this sounds like a silly question but i find them cumbersome and the biggest advantage of bags for me are groups and motor-impaired people.

We like the bags for cooking! While we aren't big 'bag' fans, we do find them useful (as you point out) in group situations. Once the bag gets good and used (amber-ish), we smear the inside with a small amount of butter, and then fill the bag with some veggies and a roaster chicken. Tie it up, put it in the oven until it's done and yum! The juices make a killer gravy to serve over the chicken and veggies.

 

[charliedontsurf]

We like the bags for cooking! While we aren't big 'bag' fans, we do find them useful (as you point out) in group situations. Once the bag gets good and used (amber-ish), we smear the inside with a small amount of butter, and then fill the bag with some veggies and a roaster chicken. Tie it up, put it in the oven until it's done and yum! The juices make a killer gravy to serve over the chicken and veggies.

Awesome.

 

[vorrange]

We like the bags for cooking! While we aren't big 'bag' fans, we do find them useful (as you point out) in group situations. Once the bag gets good and used (amber-ish), we smear the inside with a small amount of butter, and then fill the bag with some veggies and a roaster chicken. Tie it up, put it in the oven until it's done and yum! The juices make a killer gravy to serve over the chicken and veggies.

Wow, never even high did i dream it! That is a good reason indeed. hehehe.

 

[VisiblyVaped]

It was a tough call, but after getting a good deal on it Im happy with my decision to get a volcano classic.
Tried and true, proven effective, good quality, durable, and ive used it, simple to operate...

Admittedly, i still have the desire to get an EQ sometime....for the glass and diff options but first the solo.

Volcano and the solo, i think ill be pretty set vape wise for awhile if i do that, and i have no regrets buying the volcano simply because I know it can get me ripped and is built to last.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

For the money of the Volcano I would rather buy an HI and a nice high end glass water pipe... but if I had unlimited money, I would get a 'cano just because I could. I think that about summarizes my feelings on it. I've hit one, too. It's nice, no denying it, but for the price... eh...

 

[Tea Party]

Not unless you get it for under $200. Save your money, get on the cloud wait list.

 

[Benny Lava]

I got my Volcano Digit about a year ago (paying by installments).
And yes for the price you can get a bunch of other vapes. It was my first Vaporizer and when I got it the Vriptech Heatwand wasn't available in Germany yet.
BUT this thing is sturdy as hell (unlike the VHW) ; it is a fine piece of German engineering that has 2 years of warranty (which means you gonna buy this thing once and gonna have it for 10 years - It has its reason, why every good Coffee-Shop in Amsterdam has a Cano that gets used by dozens of people every day); PLUS (and maybe most importend) it is certified by the German Technical Inspection Association (TÜV), those are the guys who decide in Germany whether you can keep your car or not - and they're really not known for giving away certificates easily (ask any German car owner).
Show me another Vape who has this.
So I'm really not worried about my health using the Cano unlike with some cheesy looking china-vapes. Also a friend of mine has the Q - and compared to the Cano it's just a pussy - OK you pay half the price but you get less then half the performence.
The only arguable thing is, if 150 $ (100 €) is worth the difference between the Classic and the Digit.
So if you can afford it - IT IS WORTH IT'S HIGH PRICE

 

[Benny Lava]

speaking of party-vape

All it takes is a flexible keychan that you install on the ceiling and a little metal ring that you put through the endpiece of the bag. Perfect for use while watching TV or playing X-Box

 

[Tweek]

You are a man of dedication Benny.

Yeah, the volcano is expensive, but do I ever love mine. I especially enjoy making Pot-tatos in the bag. Value is often in the eyes of the beholder...99% of the people I know, would slap me in the face if they ever found out what I paid for the darn thing. But it brings me joy...and that's what matters to me.

 

[Pcpvapors]

You are a man of dedication Benny.

Yeah, the volcano is expensive, but do I ever love mine. I especially enjoy making Pot-tatos in the bag. Value is often in the eyes of the beholder...99% of the people I know, would slap me in the face if they ever found out what I paid for the darn thing. But it brings me joy...and that's what matters to me.

Try roasted cinnamon sugar almonds in a nice oiled bag....

 

[lwien]

Also a friend of mine has the Q - and compared to the Cano it's just a pussy - OK you pay half the price but you get less then half the performence.

Would you care to quantify that?

 

[Roger D]

I'd say it's worth the money you'll put in it. Mainly cause it's very durable and well built.

Of course it's not packed with the latest technologies on the market. Its a good vape, proven safe, with medical studies. S&B always will be there to repair your unit, and ship parts, its a solid company who won't disappear. The product is finalized, no bugs or any kind of stuff like that. It has been proven to work really well over time.

The most important thing. You've got to like bags. The problem is that they keep the smell of the previous sessions, so if you go solid valve you're gonna need a second kit to enjoy the pure high end taste. What I love with bags is the absence of draw. You can't have this feeling with direct draw. So easy and smooth, the volcano does all the work for you.
I also like to use my direct draw unit over the balloon some times. In fact I like all kind of delivery methods while vaping, they all have their advantages.

You guys talk glass and stuff, that's not the same kind of products imo. They break. Not the volcano. I wouldn't compare them. Getting an expensive glass, you're really lucky if you use it 10 years. Not saying they're not awesome. I wish I could.
But if you talk money spent on the long run, invest in something durable like the volcano is a good choice imo.
Also, consider reliability. For 4 years it was my only vape. I would have been really embarrassed if it has failed. If getting medicated with a vaporizer is a everyday need for you, its comforting to have really sturdy units. I feel like I can count on em.

 

[max]

Also a friend of mine has the Q - and compared to the Cano it's just a pussy - OK you pay half the price but you get less then half the performence.

Let's see. 1-apply heat. 2-get half as much as vapor from the Q as you do from the 'cano. Sorry, but that doesn't compute. So in what other area of performance is the 'cano twice as good? When you run the Q with bag fill, like the 'cano, you'll get the same amount of vapor at the same temp setting. The same would apply to the herbalAire or other bag filler. So you may 'like' the 'cano more than twice as much, but saying it performs 2 x better is just incorrect.

 

[CentiZen]

I wouldn't put too much thought into it Max; he's just trying to justify his exorbant purchase by putting down the competition. See this all time with so called "premium" products.

But hey, I'd be upset too if I spent 700 bucks on something just to find out I could have gotten a similar, if not better experience for 250. Live and learn; research == happiness.

 

[Roger D]

I wouldn't say that is better than that and stuff.
Different is the right term. The higher price is justified by the build quality and reliability. Performances are similar to other high end vapes.

Can you let yours run 24/7 always ready to pump some balloons with peace of mind ? My volcano is always on.
Also, I really like how the classic looks on my desk

 

[CentiZen]

Well it all depends on what you want to get out of your vape whether it's "better" or not. I mean, if you were to buy a Volcano under the impression it was the best but then found out you liked vape-bonging more, than the Cloud would have been the best. The Volcano is a one trick pony; but if you like bags than it's still good.

And yeah, I can. But I don't, and don't recommend you do either, as it will significantly decrease the useful life of the heating element. 24/7 use is hard on anything, even the high quality steel-clad ceramic element of the Volcano.

 

[Roger D]

Yeah, you're right I let it sit at the minimum temperature to avoid premature damage. The thing is, when I need to get medicated, I don't like to wait too much.
If one day, it fails me, I know S&B will repair it and send it back to me like new, so I'm not really worried.
I don't think you can say that vape is the best or any other vape. They are all different, designed for different people and usages. I love vape bonging and I'm really pleased to vape bong bags btw.

 

[weedemon]

Try roasted cinnamon sugar almonds in a nice oiled bag....

tell me more please!!

 

[Benny Lava]

Would you care to quantify that?

I shall.
The Q's fan is a joke compared to the Cano's.
The fact that you can severely burn yourself on the glass parts, what you simple can't with the Cano.
And it is exactly those glass parts that will shatter the first time you drop it, step on it etc., which would force you to buy another one and at that point it really would've been cheaper to go with a Cano in the first place.
In a nutshell: The Cano is extremly save, has more power and is more durable (Better get an expensive Cano once, than a new vaporizer every year).

 

[max]

I shall.
The Q's fan is a joke compared to the Cano's.
The fact that you can severely burn yourself on the glass parts, what you simple can't with the Cano.
And it is exactly those glass parts that will shatter the first time you drop it, step on it etc., which would force you to buy another one and at that point it really would've been cheaper to go with a Cano in the first place.
In a nutshell: The Cano is extremly save, has more power and is more durable (Better get an expensive Cano once, than a new vaporizer every year).

The Q hasn't had a significant amount of fan failures, so your claim that it's a joke doesn't hold water. And the 'cano uses a pump, not a fan. How well one model survives being dropped vs. the other has nothing to do with performance, which is your claim. As for your implication that the Extreme won't last, where's your evidence? We've seen no reports about the E or other affordable brand names not holding up well. I've been using a herbalAire, which is priced similar to the E, for 6 six years now, and it still works great.

It's fine to love your home grown Volcano and say it's worth the money, but unjustified claims that the competition is "just a pussy" won't fly here. We have a rule against attacking companies with offensive posts and if I were Arizer/Steve I'd certainly be offended. So please adjust your posting style to our rules and be prepared to back up your performance claims in the future.

 

[jambandphan03]

Is $300 a good price range on a used volcano classic? I think this one works fine, just needs a bit of cleaning. I am just trying to decide if I want to make a trade with a friend for their volcano, and I just don't know much about how the value holds up.