just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
...stereotypes exist for a reason...
Vegetarians and Vegans
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Maninthemachine
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Please explain...what you mean by this ?
just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
...because there is usually some truth to them... In group not individuals of course...
Maninthemachine
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Context wise I mean..you’re saying there’s some truth to stereotypes?
just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
...maybe not all but yes in general, that's why they are there...
Maninthemachine
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Nothing against you..but that is a backward ass statement..
just_the_flu
they say im crazy but i have a good time
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Well, one reason stereotypes exist is psychological repression. For example, the biggest homophobes are often repressing their own homosexual feelings. Suspect something similar with veganism - the biggest carnivores are repressing their own feelings of guilt.
Went through it as a teenage hunter. At that age, change was still possible. Might have responded to combative vegans by digging in, but didn't know any vegans in the 1970s.
Went through it as a teenage hunter. At that age, change was still possible. Might have responded to combative vegans by digging in, but didn't know any vegans in the 1970s.
Maninthemachine
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Hey at least life’s been good to you so far ?
Abysmal Vapor
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I feel it is like that too and probably that is one of the reasons i dislike vegans/vegan communities.As said i didn't felt like i need to give up anything,it just came natural ,i wasnt hooked to animal products,on the contrary i never liked them .
One of the things that bugs me most is the Vegan Marketing which has those people as a target.
Vegan Sausage,Vegan Chicken,Vegan Meatballs.. this is wrong on many levels IMO.. If you stopped eating animals already i suggest you stop calling your food with such names so you can free your mind of it,too..
Maninthemachine
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It’s all part of the “game”. Those in power don’t want to see us well. They poison us with rotting cancer filled antibiotic pumped flesh ,the vegan meat subs aren’t much better health wise. Whole plant foods is key .definityp feel you on not being hard to get over that poison. But we have to be honest across the board ..and realize how addicting dead animal flesh and more importantly animal lactations are. We are the only species that drinks milk in adulthood....from another species ..disgusting. If it’s natural to drink bovine lactations the mother would be cool with a human lacy hung onto her breast. Tell me how that goes if you try
Abysmal Vapor
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I have a friend who a is psychologist and has a major in neuroscience and he has some pretty wild (yet to be proven ) theories.Breast milk is loaded with stuff that brings dopamine,opiods and other psychoactives to the brain. So depending on what food regiment your mother has,it can influence the level of those chemicals,therefore deliver larger doses to the baby ,making its tolerance shoot sky high and in future his need for such subtances will grow exponentially along with his tolerance and that kid has increased chance to end up either abusing certain foods ,doing drugs or get involved in crazy/extreme activities ,because these are the main sources. He suspects that babies interest in breast milk starts with the high it delivers ,its nutritional values are just a benefactor to this experience. LOL...
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Maninthemachine
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That’s been proved man
Breast milk is loaded with stuff that brings dopamine,opiods and other psychoactives to the brain. So depending on what food regiment your mother has,it can influence the level of those chemicals,therefore deliver larger doses to the baby ,making its tolerance shoot sky high and in future his need for such subtances will grow exponentially along with his tolerance and that kid has increased chance to end up either abusing certain foods ,doing drugs or get involved in crazy/extreme activities ,because these are the main sources. He suspects that babies interest in breast milk starts with the high it delivers ,its nutritional values are just a benefactor to this experience. LOL...
Caseinmorphine(sp) is in Cowan mills and attaches to the same receptors as opiates would in your brain .wheat also does a similar thing..we have to realize and address the fact that these are addictions..dairy by itself is additive ..cheese is literally crack. If you think that’s a joke try abstaining for 3 months for all dairy...(not directed at above poster as you seem to be vegan ?
TiSteamo
VAPEnsiero... sull'ali dorate...
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Maninthemachine
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Damn that’s a beautiful head. You grew it ?Cue today's sexy vegetable!
As the bard sang, "Let us eat lettuce!"
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No, just have a great grocery store. Never feel deprived with these beauties.
TiSteamo
VAPEnsiero... sull'ali dorate...
When animals know they are dying, they start producing uric acid, which ends up in the flesh. And you eat sick meat. When you don't eat meat, so you don't feed yourself anymore of the suffering of animals, it totally changes your attitude towards every living form.
Animals are also human beings.
The difference between me and those who eat meat is simple. I was omnivorous. I ate meat. I know the difference between eating meat and not eating it. I know how I am, I know that I no longer get sick like before, I don't take antibiotics, nothing.
Those who eat meat live in presumption and talk about the taste of meat, forgetting that it is always given by vegetable flavors.
How to make a chicken in 3 days: the chicks are placed on a wire mesh where the electric current passes. The chick begins to jump anguished and he constantly eats. Then they give him injections to inflate him and you eat sick stuff.
Are we talking about high-level cuisine? Pate de fois gras.
The pate de fois gras is obtained by nailing the feet of the geese to the floor and making them swallow with a funnel all sorts of rubbish. These rubbish make your liver swell and you eat a sick liver.
We are what we eat.
Animals are also human beings.
The difference between me and those who eat meat is simple. I was omnivorous. I ate meat. I know the difference between eating meat and not eating it. I know how I am, I know that I no longer get sick like before, I don't take antibiotics, nothing.
Those who eat meat live in presumption and talk about the taste of meat, forgetting that it is always given by vegetable flavors.
How to make a chicken in 3 days: the chicks are placed on a wire mesh where the electric current passes. The chick begins to jump anguished and he constantly eats. Then they give him injections to inflate him and you eat sick stuff.
Are we talking about high-level cuisine? Pate de fois gras.
The pate de fois gras is obtained by nailing the feet of the geese to the floor and making them swallow with a funnel all sorts of rubbish. These rubbish make your liver swell and you eat a sick liver.
We are what we eat.
Maninthemachine
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All you need is a conscience,imagine when you were very young ..someone came into your home..shot your entire family dead and skinned/butchered them right in front of you. Then they put a gun to your head and a metal bolt slams into you ...I think you have that backwards. Or maybe I need a new dictionary?
Paul McCartney once said if slaughterhouses had glass windows we all wouldn’t began to think of eating a sentient being.
Incisors, we have them for chewing things other than vegetables. Around here, we don't electrify our chickens to "make" them. We don't inject them with anything, or cut their beaks so they can consume more.
We merely leave the lights on and the little fellas just keep eating. If we did not pull the dead ones out, daily, the others would consume the birds that were not moving. While I certainly understand the many motivations for a Vegan lifestyle, pontificating about quality of life for poultry is (IMO) pointless. How much of an environmental impact does your local "vegan organic bonanza" represent. I am all about loving Mother Earth, but I gotta eat.
We merely leave the lights on and the little fellas just keep eating. If we did not pull the dead ones out, daily, the others would consume the birds that were not moving. While I certainly understand the many motivations for a Vegan lifestyle, pontificating about quality of life for poultry is (IMO) pointless. How much of an environmental impact does your local "vegan organic bonanza" represent. I am all about loving Mother Earth, but I gotta eat.
Maninthemachine
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One thing that hasn’t been thought up is science behind how addicting animal products are and this can be a big reason why people are hesitant to start or continue that plant path.
Casein is the main protein in cows lactations,this protein goes to the same receptors in our brain as morphine would go. We have to understand this is a highly addicting substance and is why the calf comes back for more and more and will quite honestly bellow their lungs out of deprived of this (without substitute ),they wouldn’t mind as much I guess is there was formula or such. Anyways this is why dairy and cheese in particular is so addicting. Cheese is like the concentrate form of milk. Add in salt along and it’s a chemical cocktail that hits those opiate receptors. Modern wheat also does a similar thing so when you have a “hamburger” it’s a triple threat that is absolutely destroying our bodies causing putrification ,dead animal flesh has to be kept cool or it will putrefy,our bodies are most certainly not fridges and the gluten from the wheat binds to the flesh and sticks to our lining. That’s why pretty much all Americans and many other countries in the world have 12+ pounds of undigested crud (putrefying shit bluntly )
Everyday a vegan saves hundreds of gallons of water ,pounds of feed ,land that would have been cut down and decimated.there is a huge Impact vegans have on the environment and so many of us are waking up and realizing the destruction we are causing with our choices to eat. We are not cavemen. We have restaurants,stores we can drive straight to them. Anything can be veganized. This is the future. Open up and step back from your mindset/perspective and learn about what is going on all over the world. Watch earthlings on Netflix or YouTube and come back and talk.
And still about the teeth thing ? Our ten look nothing like a true carnivore. They go side to side man ,and if you still believe your teeth are for animal flesh here’s the test...hunt down an animal as any carnivore would do and start eating it..you will quickly realize our teeth are not meant for ripping apart flesh. We cook the crap out of meat and season it with plants
To make it more suited to our palate.
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TiSteamo
VAPEnsiero... sull'ali dorate...
You can live very well even if you don't eat animal derivatives. Millions of vegans testify to you every day.
I understand the closing reactions when talking about one's food culture, but we must understand that that food is suffering.
You eat suffering and suffering becomes part of you.
I think it's a very serious topic.
Maninthemachine
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Totally forgot that my friend ..which is the very thing that doesn’t separate organic “humane” raised animal flesh from the animal agriculture death machine. All animals period...when they die by force aka someone else taking their life all that pain anguish fear grief etc is imprinted in the flesh. That energy is transferred into you when you put it in your body.