Vector by Volski

Franco

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Where is your compassion scale? Your words are very reminiscent of a dictatorship, everyone should think like you ... One dictator has already made it so that in my windows I see exploding rockets. You know one thing to be a trendy vegan because the TV talks about it, it's another thing to provide the persuasion.
I think something got lost in translation here.
FWIW, I don't think @VegNVape was talking about you when mentioning lack of compassion... :2c:
:peace:
 

420 Volski

We developed and implemented our ideas in smoking
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I think you'll find, upon reflection, that one difference between Putin and VegNVape is that one is exploding bombs outside your window and the other is (checks notes) having a respectful discussion on a vape forum (about wanting to be able to ethically spend more money on your products no less) and remarking that "haha" reacts aren't contributive to that respect.
Everyone is entitled to their point of view. The use of smilies is included. :):):)

I think something got lost in translation here.
FWIW, I don't think @VegNVape was talking about you when mentioning lack of compassion... :2c:
:peace:
Thank you. Maybe you are right. In general, I am surprised that in this branch, products that I and my team make with my own hands, the conversations went in this direction. In theory, we should talk about products, and not about the personal preferences of everyone.
 
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Franco

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Thank you. Maybe you are right. In general, I am surprised that in this branch, products that I and my team make with my own hands, the conversations went in this direction. In theory, we should talk about products, and not about the personal preferences of everyone.
For the most part, we're not engineers, we are enthusiasts (and stoners, it's always important to keep this in mind), so we end up talking about everything really. So no, don't be surprised. :D
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAAA! (TM/FW7/OAB/CC-H&A)
Where is your compassion scale? Your words are very reminiscent of a dictatorship, everyone should think like you ... One dictator has already made it so that in my windows I see exploding rockets. You know one thing to be a trendy vegan because the TV talks about it, it's another thing to provide the persuasion.

Yeah you were confused, the words you quoted from them, were not directed toward you at all... Agreed this thread is to discuss the actual product, though typical for early products threads to go a little off topic.
 

420 Volski

We developed and implemented our ideas in smoking
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For the most part, we're not engineers, we are enthusiasts (and stoners, it's always important to keep this in mind), so we end up talking about everything really. So no, don't be surprised. :D
Thanks) you kind words today is what I need :) I'm and my partner - creators and engineers. The choice of what materials we use for all our products has always been the moment of durability in the first place. All products pass their tests so that each of us is satisfied and proud of what we do.

Yeah you were confused, the words you quoted from them, were not directed toward you at all... Agreed this thread is to discuss the actual product, though typical for early products threads to go a little off topic.
Words can do a lot. Thanks for the maintenance)
 

VegNVape

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Where is your compassion scale? Your words are very reminiscent of a dictatorship, everyone should think like you ... One dictator has already made it so that in my windows I see exploding rockets. You know one thing to be a trendy vegan because the TV talks about it, it's another thing to provide the persuasion.

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That was a disproportionate and unexpected response. Whether it was aimed at you or not (it wasn't), I feel comparing anything I said to a dictatorship or what Putin is doing is nasty and absurd. Call me names like 'trendy vegan' if you will but you clearly know nothing about me so your insults are meaningless.

I'm sorry for the confusion as I thought I was clear in my previous post but what both Franco and Shit Snacks have kindly pointed out is correct - the comments you quoted were not directed at you, @420 Volski. In the part meant for you I was completely positive & I expressed my thanks & gratitude for your offer to use alternative materials - but perhaps the language barrier is just too much.

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I would love to say I could give this company the benefit of the doubt but, regardless of the obvious confusion, following that rather unsavoury assault I feel Volski have shown their true colours (not to mention how they dealt with maremaresing) so I now think I know exactly where I stand with this company & their vape. Also, their recent comments have me wondering if their previous offer to construct a case using wool was genuine, or if it was actually a piss-take.

It's a shame things have gone this way bacause until someone decided to come and drag this topic back up, things had been perfectly cordial & respectful.

In theory, we should talk about products, and not about the personal preferences of everyone.
To be clear, I only ever brought this subject up in relation to your products - at no point was I merely discussing my personal preferences.

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Oh well, sometimes it's nice to take a punt on an unknown but, I guess you can't win 'em all & I just can't take the heat on this one so, apologies to all for any percieved drama.

Have fun, folks
:peace:
 

420 Volski

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Oh well, sometimes it's nice to take a punt on an unknown but, I guess you can't win 'em all & I just can't take the heat on this one so, apologies to all for any percieved drama.

Have fun, folks
You know the Vector, my personal story. It was developed for me by my friend. I don't see the point in arguing about packaging. Not in every package you find an unusual product. We create something new and appreciate any creative manifestations, like all connoisseurs of this forum. Warm regards, Liubov:)
 
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what is the new price?

Vape Vector 80$ (including shipping)

Vape Vector Art 180$ (including shipping). It is textured for each client individually and comes in a lovely box made of leather and walnut wood.
 
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vapormachina

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Vape Vector 80$ (including shipping)

Vape Vector Art 180$ (including shipping). It is textured for each client individually and comes in a lovely box made of leather and walnut wood.
I don't know if that's a good idea with these shipping problems😬
Why you dont search a distributor in Europe for storing your products?. I don't mind losing those €50 but I wouldn't have paid 80:hmm:
 

vapormachina

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Well Ukraine is in Europe, maybe you mean European Union.
I dont think there is much that can be done for a better shipping times from Ukraine indeed , maybe it is not a bad idea after all.
No, Europe, UK (I think they had distributors in UK🤔) or any other country. The problem more than shipping times is that the orders dont arrive😅
Maybe storing the products in other country it would be easy
 

420 Volski

We developed and implemented our ideas in smoking
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No, Europe, UK (I think they had distributors in UK🤔) or any other country. The problem more than shipping times is that the orders dont arrive😅
Maybe storing the products in other country it would be easy
None of the parcels have been lost in transit yet. We always insure the cargo so that no one loses their money.

Regarding the delivery time, you are right at this time they are a little delayed, but this only applies to European countries. Most often due to delays at customs in the country of the recipient. Parcels to the USA arrive on time.

We have several stores that regularly buy products. Since they, in addition to our devices, have many others, the implementation timeline is quite extended in time.

I recently started to engage in this forum, because we have an idea for new one (ceramic and steel).
 

vapormachina

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None of the parcels have been lost in transit yet. We always insure the cargo so that no one loses their money.

Regarding the delivery time, you are right at this time they are a little delayed, but this only applies to European countries. Most often due to delays at customs in the country of the recipient. Parcels to the USA arrive on time.
My order is still waiting since April 20 (although it seems to be in transit again:))

In which stores is the Vector available??
 

420 Volski

We developed and implemented our ideas in smoking
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My order is still waiting since April 20 (although it seems to be in transit again:))

In which stores is the Vector available??
Thanks for great chating in IG. Sorry for my silance here.
I'm glad that the postal service finally delivered your purchase.
About stores:
Mesopotamie Belgium
Refinedsocial UK
 
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deadlytoaster

Canadian lost in Europe
Finally, after a few months of postal services doing their thing, I received the vape! Quick impressions of the device:

Pros
- Excellent hand feeling, big weight
- Attractive, sleek, discreet
- Nice packaging
- Cool vapor
- Durable/indestructible
- Very on-demand (like Sticky Brick)
- Works quite well with regular lighter



Cons
- Entire body hot after few IH cycles, can't access chamber
- Threading is good, but stripping is possible. A 3/4 turn threading mechanism would be better
- Loading is pretty annoying
- Holding it in mouth is heavy
- Steel hitting teeth is unpleasant
- Needs a carrying case
- Burn risk is higher




The device is interesting to say the least. I love the design however it needs improvements for ergonomics: A bumper or something to prevent you from hitting your teeth (happens a lot to me). A bit lighter so I can hold it in my mouth comfortably without hands and it not falling onto my chest and burning me :p

The weight and hand-feel is among my favorite - excellent weight there and length, smoothness, material - yum. It stays hot for a long time tough and I've for the first time in my vape history burnt myself with a unit.

I think I will take some leather I skinned and tanned myself and make a wrap for it :) Elegant piece requires elegant accessories.

Dyna condensor tube and spinning mouthpiece fits but you need a screen.


Still need more time with it to gave an accurate feel. I can tell it needs some improvements but is fairly solid as is.
 
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420 Volski

We developed and implemented our ideas in smoking
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Finally, after a few months of postal services doing their thing, I received the vape! Quick impressions of the device:

Pros
- Excellent hand feeling, big weight
- Attractive, sleek, discreet
- Nice packaging
- Cool vapor
- Durable/indestructible
- Very on-demand (like Sticky Brick)
- Works quite well with regular lighter



Cons
- Entire body hot after few IH cycles, can't access chamber
- Threading is good, but stripping is possible. A 3/4 turn threading mechanism would be better
- Loading is pretty annoying
- Holding it in mouth is heavy
- Steel hitting teeth is unpleasant
- Needs a carrying case
- Burn risk is higher




The device is interesting to say the least. I love the design however it needs improvements for ergonomics: A bumper or something to prevent you from hitting your teeth (happens a lot to me). A bit lighter so I can hold it in my mouth comfortably without hands and it not falling onto my chest and burning me :p

The weight and hand-feel is among my favorite - excellent weight there and length, smoothness, material - yum. It stays hot for a long time tough and I've for the first time in my vape history burnt myself with a unit.

I think I will take some leather I skinned and tanned myself and make a wrap for it :) Elegant piece requires elegant accessories.

Dyna condensor tube and spinning mouthpiece fits but you need a screen.


Still need more time with it to gave an accurate feel. I can tell it needs some improvements but is fairly solid as is.
I take care myself forum not a long time, and your words very important for me. Thank you for all of them :) Vector for me and my partner was a the first controversial brainchild. It was a mistake give such important processes like customer service and sales to the enthusiast. We develop a new vape, and all feedbacks are important.
Could you please, provide me more information about hot body? (Temperature, number of approaches etc.)
To be honest, I can’t keep it in my teeth too, and sometimes even I lack this ability :rockon: Metal's heaviness is due to its dual purpose. You can use it as Yawara (Japanese brass knuckles for poking). The development took into account several purposes of one item :science:
 

deadlytoaster

Canadian lost in Europe
I take care myself forum not a long time, and your words very important for me. Thank you for all of them :) Vector for me and my partner was a the first controversial brainchild. It was a mistake give such important processes like customer service and sales to the enthusiast. We develop a new vape, and all feedbacks are important.
Could you please, provide me more information about hot body? (Temperature, number of approaches etc.)
To be honest, I can’t keep it in my teeth too, and sometimes even I lack this ability :rockon: Metal's heaviness is due to its dual purpose. You can use it as Yawara (Japanese brass knuckles for poking). The development took into account several purposes of one item :science:
Had some more time to get opinions on the vape!

Yes it gets too hot after torching multiple times over a ~6 minute period. The heat transfers from the tip to the body very easily. I don't feel comfortable sharing this vape with people who aren't used to Dynavaps.

  • With a good torch I've had some excellent results with vapor which the vapor has always been surprisingly smooth and pleasant somehow.

  • The chamber is surprisingly large and holds about 3x what a Dynavap can. Heat-up time is entirely up to you. You can get a hit in ~2 seconds if aimed right at the cone, or in ~10 seconds if side-on. There's a bit of a Sticky-Brick technique to it.

  • I was able to get nice flavor to start and then very heavy hits with near-pyrolosis. I've found it very difficult to combust and I still haven't, even with very agressive technique.

  • The vape holds heat which is nice because I don't need to actively torch it to be getting vapor - nice for joint-like drags.

  • Still, my teeth hit the stainless steel unpleasantly. I think a carry-safe case should be included.

  • The cleaning of the device is simultaneously easy and difficult - I cannot access the chamber for a very long time due to residual heat. Back-to-back sessions are not possible as a result.

  • When opened however it's extremely easy. I feel a leather or cork case with a small poker in it should be essential with this vapo. Impossible to store in pocket directly after use and the case could be used to open the top easily even if hot. No case means I cannot take this outside of the house at all.


I find the vapor-experience to be somewhere between a Sticky Brick, DynaVap, Anvil, and Vapo-Cane. I got some phenomally large hits at the latter end of the session as the whole device and chamber heats up.

Overall, a vape with good potential but needs refinement. Perhaps a different screen system and a way to ensure the body won't get this hot.
 

420 Volski

We developed and implemented our ideas in smoking
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Had some more time to get opinions on the vape!

Yes it gets too hot after torching multiple times over a ~6 minute period. The heat transfers from the tip to the body very easily. I don't feel comfortable sharing this vape with people who aren't used to Dynavaps.

  • With a good torch I've had some excellent results with vapor which the vapor has always been surprisingly smooth and pleasant somehow.

  • The chamber is surprisingly large and holds about 3x what a Dynavap can. Heat-up time is entirely up to you. You can get a hit in ~2 seconds if aimed right at the cone, or in ~10 seconds if side-on. There's a bit of a Sticky-Brick technique to it.

  • I was able to get nice flavor to start and then very heavy hits with near-pyrolosis. I've found it very difficult to combust and I still haven't, even with very agressive technique.

  • The vape holds heat which is nice because I don't need to actively torch it to be getting vapor - nice for joint-like drags.

  • Still, my teeth hit the stainless steel unpleasantly. I think a carry-safe case should be included.

  • The cleaning of the device is simultaneously easy and difficult - I cannot access the chamber for a very long time due to residual heat. Back-to-back sessions are not possible as a result.

  • When opened however it's extremely easy. I feel a leather or cork case with a small poker in it should be essential with this vapo. Impossible to store in pocket directly after use and the case could be used to open the top easily even if hot. No case means I cannot take this outside of the house at all.


I find the vapor-experience to be somewhere between a Sticky Brick, DynaVap, Anvil, and Vapo-Cane. I got some phenomally large hits at the latter end of the session as the whole device and chamber heats up.

Overall, a vape with good potential but needs refinement. Perhaps a different screen system and a way to ensure the body won't get this hot.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about Vector. Sorry for any inconvenience caused to you by our invention. You and other Vector lovers helped us to see the issue with the heating of the thermal head.

A bit of history of the functions: In Ukraine, there is no legalization yet, and safety and invisibility of use (no smoke and smell around) has become one of the main functions. Also, start of the pandemic we decided to do vape for 1 person. And 1 more function special for me: no cough)

According to our vision: 6 breaths are obtained for 1 load. After the 1st set of 2 breaths (for me it's normal start) personal I put it in my bag and it's (bag) still fine. On top of that, I never got the clouds as Vector is my trusted friend on the street.

When the Vector fell into the hands of lovers and connoisseurs of clouds, the question of heating the thermal head already began to appear. We are not yet able to offer you a decent solution due to the situation inside the country. In the next vape, this moment has already been foreseen)

After the 1rst reviews about the strong heating of the thermal head we thought that for each vape we would put a small piece of leather, the size of a bank card, so that it could be stored in a purse. But we were stopped by a comment thread about the humane treatment of animals. We tried cork wood, plastic, but they did not survive the experiment or our visual perception.

So we're now open to controversy on this issue:)
 
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