PDwasmy1st
Well-Known Member
itaste , what is this any good?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iTaste-MV...les_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE&hash=item27d37e5a8e
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/iTaste-MV...les_Tobacciana_Smoking_LE&hash=item27d37e5a8e
Various e-cig type Vaporizers
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Fraank Demetrius
New Member
Well after much hunting and surfing I bought a Vaporx XRT... Well I have seen only a few reviews on this unit and I must say it kicks a$#! Most of my omicron cartridges fit the battery "601 thread I think" . It looks more like a ecig then most. The fact that it came with a e liquid tank as well makes this a very versatile system. It takes a little getting used too with flowers but much better at vaping then my atomos raw was. And the oil tank for your thick oils will keep on hitting all day with just a couple dabs.
I own several stealthy pens and the Vapor XRT does the best overall for flowers, oil, and e-liquid. I get almost no combustion with flowers and it really seems to make my oils and waxes last. Don't get me wrong this Is no $200+ plus vaporizer like a pax but it makes up in stealth and convince. Learning how to not over cook my vapes took about a day but after that it is a breeze. And I think I have already said it twice but I will say it again STEALTHY! You can use the e-liquid tank all day around the in-laws then swap out for the oil chamber to medicate and no one is the wiser. I picked mine up for under a $100 at south beach vaporizers in Fort Lauderdale FL. Anyways I wanted to write this up because I almost did not buy this pen due to a lack of reviews I found but I am glad I did.
The pen with e-liquid tank:
Pen with dry herb/oil chamber :
Showing the central heating core :
I own several stealthy pens and the Vapor XRT does the best overall for flowers, oil, and e-liquid. I get almost no combustion with flowers and it really seems to make my oils and waxes last. Don't get me wrong this Is no $200+ plus vaporizer like a pax but it makes up in stealth and convince. Learning how to not over cook my vapes took about a day but after that it is a breeze. And I think I have already said it twice but I will say it again STEALTHY! You can use the e-liquid tank all day around the in-laws then swap out for the oil chamber to medicate and no one is the wiser. I picked mine up for under a $100 at south beach vaporizers in Fort Lauderdale FL. Anyways I wanted to write this up because I almost did not buy this pen due to a lack of reviews I found but I am glad I did.
The pen with e-liquid tank:
Pen with dry herb/oil chamber :
Showing the central heating core :
Fraank Demetrius
New Member
Don't judge a book by its cover. I'm happy with it.
Honestly, I am glad, and I could be wrong...but it looks like most of the other cheap shit pens out there. But, if it's doing what you need it to, power to ya... thanks for the review and welcome to FC
Mr. Gweilo 420
Dude
Another pen that combusts herb? I'd say so 
IdeaJ
Member
Hey my brothers of the clouds!
I'm a new user of the oil pen, about 4 months now from the Vapir 2 with flower. I use the budvape.com Bud version. It is a clone but the atomizers are much different than any other kit. They are short wick and work better than anything else I have tried in the wick dept.
MY QUESTION IS THIS:
I've built a bit of a tolerance and need to get something to make bigger clouds. As a medical patient who takes methotrexate(chemo) each week the oil was like a gift from the Goddess. Rather than buy the ego-v and then the next up the list.... I want to just buy to the best for what I need and skip the middle crap.
I have researched and when I thought I knew what I wanted I found a whole new class of pen like the Zmax v3 and Provari. These seem to be the future but I have no clue what carts/atoms to use.
I use high grade Co2 Oil and I have money. I'm on the lazy side so things that will take constant fiddling aren't for me. I don't mind a mod or hack.
What do you Cloud Jedi Masters suggest?
Thanks for you knowledge.
PS. I've been really impressed with Bud vape if anyone cares. Great products, great service and that atomizer really is one of the best I've found or Co2 Oil. I've just outgrown it.
I'm a new user of the oil pen, about 4 months now from the Vapir 2 with flower. I use the budvape.com Bud version. It is a clone but the atomizers are much different than any other kit. They are short wick and work better than anything else I have tried in the wick dept.
MY QUESTION IS THIS:
I've built a bit of a tolerance and need to get something to make bigger clouds. As a medical patient who takes methotrexate(chemo) each week the oil was like a gift from the Goddess. Rather than buy the ego-v and then the next up the list.... I want to just buy to the best for what I need and skip the middle crap.
I have researched and when I thought I knew what I wanted I found a whole new class of pen like the Zmax v3 and Provari. These seem to be the future but I have no clue what carts/atoms to use.
I use high grade Co2 Oil and I have money. I'm on the lazy side so things that will take constant fiddling aren't for me. I don't mind a mod or hack.
What do you Cloud Jedi Masters suggest?
Thanks for you knowledge.
PS. I've been really impressed with Bud vape if anyone cares. Great products, great service and that atomizer really is one of the best I've found or Co2 Oil. I've just outgrown it.
OF
Well-Known Member
Looks like crap.
Funny, I was going to say 'looks like Hercules to me'. The center rod and low down vents fooled me.....
I agree, performance counts more than appearance, an owner should be happy. However, there may be something better just around the corner?
If you have good CO2 oil available and want to go right to the top I suggest you consider Cera EO. Nothing you can put in your pocket holds a candle to it IMO. Be careful it can easily run your tolerance past lesser vapes ability to compete. Check it out?
OF
IdeaJ
Member
Thanks OF for your wisdom. I didn't expect anyone to suggest the Cera in this thread.
I have come to the same conclusion but I have some issues with TV. I bought a dart kit from a reseller who bought from a distributer and when it died in 2 days use I contacted TV and they wouldn't support it but did 4 days earlier. Seemed like bad business to sell a product and then dump it and its buyers because you over-extended in R&D and production. Building their business on the backs of the people who built them.
I also HATE they make you buy a cap for the Cera, I know it's trivial but really for $300 throw in a cover. Summing up I don't want to give them my money unless I have too. I just hate they have the best product and know it. Maybe buy it used so they don't profit.
That said I know they have the best game in town and your comment about my tolerance blowing past other products scared me a bit. What is a step below in cloud production? (I know.. Not about clouds). Maybe something that won't ruin me from my ability to still use something that resembles an e-cig in an airport. Was very convenient for medicating in plain site.
Again not looking so much for recreation as anti nausea & pain. A nice puff every 45mins not a get wrecked session I know the Cera would provide and tempt me too. While I use mj to medicate its also my DOC & on occasion I wish to see things through the green goddess' tint of shangri la.
Thanks again for your help.
OF
Well-Known Member
You're welcome. You asked for honest advice, that you got......
I don't share the same view of TV (obviously) and am at a loss to understand your issue. Must be some mistake or problem with something because they most definitely did not "dump it and its buyers because you over-extended in R&D and production". They simply ended production of that line, the still honor warranty on the old like, I just got back from there in fact. While there were no old cores being rebuilt, last time I was in there were two different batches (one 3 and the other 4 or 5) being rebuilt (a mix of Revolutions and DARTs with one T1) all were being done at no cost. In any event they'll rebuild a core with no history at all for $15 (even changing voltages or powers for you).
I'm guessing there's some issue with 'gray market' here? Otherwise I've no idea why they would single you out to not fix the unit????
Hate what you want, but the fact is the EO core doesn't need the cap. Most of us don't use it. LL needs it so it comes with them. But the EO cores cost more to make, the call was not to raise the $100 price. Since most guys don't really need another cap (or even a first), to me this makes more sense than raising the price.
Your call, but IMO the guy missing out is you? FWIW I think your view 'is at variance with the truth' as Ollie North once said. They are not ripping anyone off, in fact I think quite the opposite.
OF
I am in the pen market. I am almost dead set on the persei as it offers so much versatility. Basically I was looking for something that could hold enough oil to get me through my day at work. The oil I am using is a home made butane extraction utilizing the liquidizer. It creates a glycerin based oil and the pen they offer uses a wick that I find myself continuously refilling. It would be nice if the pen could handle flowers as well as much thicker BHO's but that's not exactly a deal killer.
The syringe in the pic is used to fill the cart that comes with the Liquidizer. The stuff in the small liquid bottle is the ejuice and on the mirror is straight BHO with a SAP consistency.
Using that syringe I inject the juice into the cart like so - you can see the wick which is where your juice drops should fall on and soak into.
The manufacturer only recommends a few drops at a time. By now, I assume you all see where I'm going with this. I literally get 3 to 5 solid hits per fill. Carrying a syringe around with me just defeats everything I'm try to accomplish. I like the trippy stik, I like the persei, I even like some of much cheaper stuff I find on the internet. Funny thing, High Times did a review on the top 10 pens on the market. Surprisingly the Persei was ranked at the bottom as number 10!
It does also mention that the Persei was by far the biggest hitter.
http://www.hightimes.com/read/high-times-vaporizer-pen-buyers-guide
The syringe in the pic is used to fill the cart that comes with the Liquidizer. The stuff in the small liquid bottle is the ejuice and on the mirror is straight BHO with a SAP consistency.
Using that syringe I inject the juice into the cart like so - you can see the wick which is where your juice drops should fall on and soak into.
The manufacturer only recommends a few drops at a time. By now, I assume you all see where I'm going with this. I literally get 3 to 5 solid hits per fill. Carrying a syringe around with me just defeats everything I'm try to accomplish. I like the trippy stik, I like the persei, I even like some of much cheaper stuff I find on the internet. Funny thing, High Times did a review on the top 10 pens on the market. Surprisingly the Persei was ranked at the bottom as number 10!
It does also mention that the Persei was by far the biggest hitter.
http://www.hightimes.com/read/high-times-vaporizer-pen-buyers-guide
I don't know what they smoke over at High Times, but it sure fucks up their brains. Those ratings include the Pax, in which they apparently put some kind of concentrate:
Clearly no one gave much thought to how the Pax works. I'd love to see one of them huffing on a Pax with an airtight seal around the oven lid.About the Persei, they say:
Again, I'd love to watch these guys testing stuff. Must be hilarious.
ShipDit
1%
I know this is slightly off topic but I have to address the elephant in every stoners corner...High Times magazine.
I've been a subscriber since the late 80's. For the longest time it was the only place to get the latest info on sweet Mary Jane and the marijuana sub-culture. This was way before the internet was available to mere mortals so HT was pretty much the only game in town. When the issues arrived my friends and would pour over every single page,desperate for the latest info.
That's not the case anymore. HT has devolved into a never ending stream of ads,occasionally throwing in an article that endorses some of their bigger advertisers. In the last year they have had 2 "Vaporizer buyers guides". They basically just went with the companies description of the Vape and did the cut/paste thing for the article it's self. Check out the vaporizer articles yourself,the amount of hype and plain old mis-information would piss you off if you're not laughing.
I hate what HT has become. Back in the day it was like the dead sea scrolls for stoners. Now it's 80% ads,and the few articles they do put in are just fluff pieces to pimp their advertisers. Its a fucking shame that a "counter culture" magazine has become what they used to despise,a magazine who's main purpose is to sell ad space then run positive,kiss ass articles on the products in those ads.
The greed-heads have destroyed what Tom Forcade (HT's founder and a true anti-establishment rebel) created. Tom is rolling in his grave about the path HT has taken.
Please remember this is just my take on things,pick up an issue and see for yourselfs. As for myself I canceled my decade long subscription and instead subscribed to Skunk magazine. Read both and you'll see what I mean.
Sorry if I killed your buzz,or if you're a HT fanboy. These are just my opinions,and I stand by them.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled,non biased FC goodness.
I've been a subscriber since the late 80's. For the longest time it was the only place to get the latest info on sweet Mary Jane and the marijuana sub-culture. This was way before the internet was available to mere mortals so HT was pretty much the only game in town. When the issues arrived my friends and would pour over every single page,desperate for the latest info.
That's not the case anymore. HT has devolved into a never ending stream of ads,occasionally throwing in an article that endorses some of their bigger advertisers. In the last year they have had 2 "Vaporizer buyers guides". They basically just went with the companies description of the Vape and did the cut/paste thing for the article it's self. Check out the vaporizer articles yourself,the amount of hype and plain old mis-information would piss you off if you're not laughing.
I hate what HT has become. Back in the day it was like the dead sea scrolls for stoners. Now it's 80% ads,and the few articles they do put in are just fluff pieces to pimp their advertisers. Its a fucking shame that a "counter culture" magazine has become what they used to despise,a magazine who's main purpose is to sell ad space then run positive,kiss ass articles on the products in those ads.
The greed-heads have destroyed what Tom Forcade (HT's founder and a true anti-establishment rebel) created. Tom is rolling in his grave about the path HT has taken.
Please remember this is just my take on things,pick up an issue and see for yourselfs. As for myself I canceled my decade long subscription and instead subscribed to Skunk magazine. Read both and you'll see what I mean.
Sorry if I killed your buzz,or if you're a HT fanboy. These are just my opinions,and I stand by them.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled,non biased FC goodness.
IdeaJ
Member
Sorry OF I didn't know they were your friends. I can only speak to the two phone calls I made to them and the person who 1. wasn't nice 2. and told me verbatim what I said above. When I asked about a replacement he laughed at me and restated, "that will never happen". I was actually being nice in my statement above as the csr person said a lot more.
Still why would I give them my money again. Maybe it was one employee but that set the bar for me.
All this said, what is the next best product I can use for Co2 oil in a pen style?
thanks
OF
Well-Known Member
No need to apologize for honest opinions, and for sure being 'my friend' (and they're not all....) is not a factor at all. I just find this exchange puzzling. I know for sure they repair these guys, I've watched them do it, they did if for me several months back.
I just find nothing to support claims like above. They've abandoned nobody I know of, nor have they been in anyway dishonest or underhanded in their business dealings IMO. Like I said, they just don't make them anymore, they use a different 'business model'.
Misunderstandings can and do happen. I can only assume that's what we have going here.
I'd suggest you look into 2.4 Ohm Omicron carts for your oil use. And you might consider selling your DART kit in the classifieds. Even 'broken' I bet it gets top dollar. Guys in the know really want them and have no fear of TV's not setting it 'good as new' without problems. Don't set your price too low, I bet you can get what you paid for it? If someone doesn't PM you first........
Best wishes.
OF
vaporonly
living in a van down by the river
i saw an deal on panda e-cigs kits:
http://www.pandaecigs.com/Electronic-cigarette-starter-kits-s/21.htm
does anyone have any input on the evolve or the joy ego kit?
thank you
http://www.pandaecigs.com/Electronic-cigarette-starter-kits-s/21.htm
does anyone have any input on the evolve or the joy ego kit?
thank you
ru_frothi
Portable Vaporist
Anyone seen this yet?
The glass globe from vaped:
pretty sick little dabber, just load before hits. I am replacing this with my o-phos for sure.
Well I had seen these at the cannabis cup, Elemental Wellness and Harborside and even CHAI in Santa Cruz I figured these things might be pretty cool.
I was headed to the SF for the weekend and have been wanting more of a portable dab rig than my omicron or persei. My evo has 1/2 a heater and needs to go back to TV for a re-build it appears. So I stopped in at the cave and they had the unit in your choice of colors, with pen tip, glass globe attachment, 5-extra skillet bowls, 2 different tips, usb charger cable (no AC adapter), poker dab tool, and a warranty card for $100
Heres the link for just the globe attachment:
http://www.ruvaped.com/shop/glass-globe-attachment/
It came charged up but I topped it off for 1/2 hour and then tested her out.
Tried some blond wax first. big hits, very fast, easy. repeat. instant success.
Then went out for extensive group field testing. Our test sample was over 1.2G of some "Big Sur Haze" ice water full melt and boy was it greasy. Stunning! Beautiful amber glassy gooey trichs.
No problems with the full melt. Big hits, big flavor, blow it out hard and use the heater and you breath to field clean it. dip it upside down in your hash container and gently knock the excess off the top and you get 3-5 really nice pulls. Flavor is very good. Everyone loved the globe because you could see how much heat you needed to apply visually so it was easy to deal with factors like battery degradation. Battery lasted until all that full melt was gone. Big Tasty hits load a you go hits.
Now I need to try the pen attachment. That globe attachment is a winner.
JohnxBlaze
New Member
Hey guys i just found this today and after reading A LOT of these post i think some of you guys will like what you see.
http://www.DaBstiX.com/Coil-Nail-2014-New-Release-p/coilnail1.htm
Wickless nail for glass dome lovers.
Just got done talking with VaporCone and they are sending me their version 2 which was just released. Supposed better air flow, reliability, and general strength. I'll post again once it arrives and is tested. Should help with the problem of oils/wax not staying on the coil. We shall see
Love and Light
http://www.DaBstiX.com/Coil-Nail-2014-New-Release-p/coilnail1.htm
Wickless nail for glass dome lovers.
Just got done talking with VaporCone and they are sending me their version 2 which was just released. Supposed better air flow, reliability, and general strength. I'll post again once it arrives and is tested. Should help with the problem of oils/wax not staying on the coil. We shall see
Love and Light
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vape4health
Well-Known Member
Anyone know what design the White rhino trifecta heater is, one of them bullshit electric pipe (combustion) vape pens, Its a ceramic looking pipe with heavy wire that runs up the pipe then wraps around the outside of the pipe on its way to the bottom. The unit then uses ego thread for the cover that has the air hole. The heater I have feels low quality, everything moves too much but I really like the heater design for oils, I melted some oil on and it runs down the ~.5" coil/pipe and looks like it will smash. DMM reads 1.6ohm but the wire looks way too thick and long for that, not at all like the nic or kanthal I have. Did they really design this or is it just a common epart. The heater connector center pin wiggles enough to touch the wall and cause a short, that I believe is what made the button fall dead on the battery so my friend brings it all to me and says here can you fix it.
Anyone point me in the right direction of a quality built heater like this. Im not looking to fix that battery at all but I would like to buy a heater exactly like it to play with.
Anyone point me in the right direction of a quality built heater like this. Im not looking to fix that battery at all but I would like to buy a heater exactly like it to play with.
Dont really like the globes. at least the ones ive tried. Efficiency of a hotnail with the taste of a resin hit. Makes more sense than a oil rig though in terms of practicality tho.
I'm curious about cartos w the coil in the center,like the white rino.
To be honest anyone with a little intuition could build a better cart for herbal oils than is on the market today. There nothing even remotely innovative in todays atomizer designs, and the fact that every 'oil pen' ive tried taste like burnt wick proves that in my mind. Do we have to wait for chinese culture to change before great products hit the market? shouldnt have to.
I'm curious about cartos w the coil in the center,like the white rino.
To be honest anyone with a little intuition could build a better cart for herbal oils than is on the market today. There nothing even remotely innovative in todays atomizer designs, and the fact that every 'oil pen' ive tried taste like burnt wick proves that in my mind. Do we have to wait for chinese culture to change before great products hit the market? shouldnt have to.
curious to see how it does. Just picked up a [stainless?] nail for my globe, think it still a wick though.
The nail i have, the attys coil sits too high and you burn the wick trying to get the oil in the bottom used up
OF
Well-Known Member
I get what you're saying but suggest it takes a lot more than "a little intuition" to build better carts, it takes considerable resources and experience I think.
I assume you've never used Omicron carts? Or that 'proof' might not be so iron clad?
And when it comes to 'a better cart' I'm sure you've never used Revolution/DART or Cera EO or your perspective of what's possible would be different.
You just don't get that sort or performance on the cheap using e-cig parts and hype. But it's out there, which is why the Omicron and TV threads are so long? Soon I think to be joined by Hercules/SR71? And, while you might argue that some of those excellent oil vapes are too big to qualify as 'pen vape carts', Omicron and Revolution/DART clearly are in that class.
OF