It looks like I'm going to try the Arizer exreme. I've never used balloons or whips so not sure how this will work.
EDIT In my post below I am talking about the 2011 edition of this machine. I checked the form tonight and it looks like they fixed the tubing to be higher (if not medical) grade and the bag fills WAY more easily with a glass connector. I still do not prefer those methods, but I bet I would like the current version of the Extreme a lot more.
My feelings on the Extreme are.... well you might like it better than I. I know
@DDave would make it much better, but I love the vapes I have in rotation so much I just never feel like pulling it out. Once the laws change a bit here, I will gift it to a needy med user for sure. Right now I'm afraid to even try because it's going to be ultra tough to get all of the tell tale smells and debris out of it's standard tubes.
I couldn't get the bag in without tearing it. This was 2011, and I was a total newbie with flowers period, but despite watching you tube vids I could not manage it. Now I could maybe, but I don't like all the air that gets into the vapor when you use the fan anyhow
With the whip, it was an herb hog, and it turned deep brown quickly. I had so much trouble cleaning it and getting the herbs from shooting up it into hard reach spots. Even soaking didn't seem to help. I since found I simply dislike that delivery method compared to glass, stainless steel, or wood.
I mentioned the fan before, without it, I had to crank the vape up and really hit hard to get some decent vapor. With it, a lot of air mixes in. I don't mind good airflow, but not mixed that deeply into the vapor.
Remember though a
lot of people
do like this brand and vape. Personally it kept me away from the brand for good and drove me back to combustion for a long while, but again this is only
my personal experience. I would buy the DDave kit on ebay asap to bring it up to current vaping standards. I love mods and
@Ed's TnT,
@Ratchett, and DDave do great things for us. However a vaporizer shouldn't be a pain out of the box, it should already function without a headache. Water tools, stem accessories, even plug in options for portables, all of that is fantastic, but a vaporizer should work great with the bare minimum too. Just my
.
to Arizer fans, but not those darn fans.