Vaporizer negative respiratory effects

[newVaper420]

I am prone to the same symptoms regardless of what vape I use and I have a few different ones. I find that my first few hits can cause this, but then it stops. It's hard to pinpoint what the cause is. I have hay fever so possibly "weed" vapor inhaled could irritate in that respect. Maybe it's the horrible pesticides sprayed on the plant and we get to inhale it in a purer form as vapor. Maybe it's the vaporizer air path. Maybe it's the fact that I was a 2 pack a day cigarette smoker up until almost two years ago and the vapor is a natural healthy expectorant. I don't know.

There are two things that work for me that I rely upon. One is a bong and especially with warm or actually hot water. Makes a BIG difference. Of course the only problem with that is that through a session the bong water becomes room temperature and unless I'm willing to replace the water several times through a session this is just a fact of life.

The other thing that works for me is a glass "tooty" with a carb hole. I know carb holes have a degree of controversy but trust me - that could solve your problem. Sometimes I sort of tap on it while I'm inhaling so I'm getting a mix of cool air in spurts through the hit and it goes down nice and easy - so easy that you can actually swallow the inhalation with no discomfort. Without it there's a good chance I'd be coughing and sneezing also.

I believe it was Pappy who was having some lung issues and went to the doctor and the doctor said not to vape with warm/hot water as there could be organisms that could get you sick or something like that. So from his doctor, I'll take that advice.

Just wanted to let you guys know that. I might have the exact post somewhere but you can search I guess to find it.

 

[Nycdeisel]

I remember those posts by pappy. I used to use warm water. nw i just use good filtered water at room temp.

Jeff. Make sure to use good water. and maybe try room temp. but i notice a big difference using good water compared to tap

 

[Spiritwalker]

curious how filtered water would compare to tap? How do you notice that?

 

[Nycdeisel]

The most obvious is the chlorine, and other disinfection by products. which is why everyone can tell a huge difference in their shower water when its not filtered compared to when they use a shower filter that removes chlorine and DBPs(disinfection by products).

Oh and of course the taste is a dead giveaway. as well as the way hard water stains show up on the glass when you use bad quality water.

There is a TON of dangerous chemicals in our tap water, which is why everyone NEEDS a serious water filter to remove the fluoride, chlorine, arsenic, lead, pesticides, VOCs, and many other things that are harmful over time. The water we drink and cook with on a regular basis is very important, and the water we breathe in of course is a contributor too

 

[djonkoman]

it also depends on where you live, around here there's no chlorine in the tapwater, and the regulations for acceptable levels of stuff in it etc are more strict as the regulations for bottled water. and if anyone said to me they can taste the difference between tapwater and bottled water, I would doubt them. (in other countries I would believe it tough, for example when I was in rome I also drank tapwater all the time but it didn't taste as good, had a bit a weird taste to it)

 

[Spiritwalker]

The most obvious is the chlorine, and other disinfection by products. which is why everyone can tell a huge difference in their shower water when its not filtered compared to when they use a shower filter that removes chlorine and DBPs(disinfection by products).

Oh and of course the taste is a dead giveaway. as well as the way hard water stains show up on the glass when you use bad quality water.

There is a TON of dangerous chemicals in our tap water, which is why everyone NEEDS a serious water filter to remove the fluoride, chlorine, arsenic, lead, pesticides, VOCs, and many other things that are harmful over time. The water we drink and cook with on a regular basis is very important, and the water we breathe in of course is a contributor too

Re: hard water stains... what am I supposed to rinse the iso off glass with? I always use HOT tap water.

I think the water we drink in N.A. is probably one of the safest in the world. I'm not concerned with said chemicals...especially when i'm INHALING clouds of vapor off of a plant, which is probably about a million times worse. Many of those same said chemicals can be in your flowers, unless you get them lab tested.

In terms of breating in through the glass, you're right....my hot shower is a million times worse.

 

[Nycdeisel]

Our water is horrible. You are under delusion if you dont believe so.

Of course you rinse with tap water. but you should always do a FINAL RINSE with good filtered water after everythings been rinsed out with the tap. You fill part way with the good water, shake up for a minute or two and dump it out, then re fill with the good water for use

And I started using this hemp castile liquid soap as a post wash, this along with the final rinse with good water, ceased ALL hard water stains(mineral buildup) and its great stuff for everything http://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/LS.htm

 

[vorrange]

I agree with Spirit Walker, problably one of the safest in the world. But that doesn't mean it is without its problems.. personally my main issue with tap water is how it leaves my hair and my skin after a shower, compared to filtered water.

I can also feel the taste when vaporizing through my tube.

Every day, i learn something new that makes me respect nature and the equilibrium between all things. There is nothing compared to fountain water, when i'm hiking i never miss a change to bathe and drink it, it is just so much better.

 

[insomniac]

Our water is horrible. You are under delusion if you dont believe so.

Maybe in NYC, but that doesn't mean it's horrible everywhere. British Columbia has some (if not THE) best drinking water in the world.

Many bottled and "filtered" waters are even worse. With that being said, I was contemplating installing a R/O filtration system, but i'm a little concerned about drinking water that isn't found in nature.

 

[Nycdeisel]

We dont have fresh water in our municipal water supplies, its all recycled from the water we flush down our toilets and drains. then it comes back out the faucet. I dont know how it is in other places. But I know in this country, You NEED a filter to remove the fluoride and other toxic chemicals.

So you must only drink natural spring water, that you have collected from a spring? thats the only drinking water you are going to be able to get that is actually found in nature.

 

[vapirtoo]

Hey NYCdeisel,
Are you sure ? I thought that NYC's drinking water was piped in from the Adirondaks.
In taste tests NYC water usually rates as one of the best. Our interior pipes are the real
problem.

All of our sewer water is directed to treatment plants that release the treated sewage
into our bays and beaches. That is why it is not good to go to the beach after a rain
storm. All of the treatment plants get flooded and raw sewage goes to our beaches.

I still filter all of my drinking and cooking water,and when I get a bubbler, I will use filtered water
in that also.

 

[mmenzie]

Hey NYCdeisel,
Are you sure ? I thought that NYC's drinking water was piped in from the Adirondaks.
In taste tests NYC water usually rates as one of the best.

You are correct. NYC water runs down the aqueduct to NYC from the Adirondacks. i live ine New Windsor and the aqueduct runs near me

 

[Nycdeisel]

Tap water everywhere contains chlorine, and other contaminants. THEN there is the fluoride that is added to most water supplies in this country, which is the big problem(although, chlorine, lead, arsenic, and pharmaceutical drugs are pretty bad too), because of its effects on health. There is still tons of debate and propaganda about fluoride being pushed and many people think it is OK or vehemently believe so . This is similar to propaganda trying to frame our favorite herbal flower as the bad guy.

FYI it is in so much of the water supply in this country, in 2010 the CDC reported that at least 73% of Americas water supplies had already the toxic waste product known as fluoride added to them. And from 2009 to 2010, 9 million more people received fluoridated tap water.

The sad truth is our world is very polluted.

For in depth info on fluoride as well as studies, check out http://www.fluoridealert.org/

P.s: I do a final rinse after I clean my glass, using the good filtered water, to rinse out the remnants of tap water, just shake it up for a moment and dump it out, then refill it for use

 

[vorrange]

The fluoride thing is just another attempt to "cure" a problem caused from bad eating habits aka eating A LOT of sugar. Fluoride is good for your teeth when you apply it on the teeth, and it is toxic if ingested. Somehow this wasn't realized by the us government when they decided to add fluoride to tap water.

 

[Nycdeisel]

Well it goes in your body, theres no such thing as something thats purely topical Everything applied to the skin, or gums will go into your bloodstream, where it can circulate around the body and all of your organs

Actually most of western Europe has banned fluoridating the water, and noticed around a 75% decrease in cavities when they stopped fluoridating their water. It rots the teeth, it doesnt do anything good for them. Even the FDA and the CDC have had to admit that people "should avoid fluoride" YET they are pushing it as much as ever and making sure people continue to think it is safe. The CDC also said that fluoride has "no benefits for babies" HAH

 

[vorrange]

Well it goes in your body, theres no such thing as something thats purely topical Everything applied to the skin, or gums will go into your bloodstream, where it can circulate around the body and all of your organs

Actually most of western Europe has banned fluoridating the water, and noticed around a 75% decrease in cavities when they stopped fluoridating their water. It rots the teeth, it doesnt do anything good for them. Even the FDA and the CDC have had to admit that people "should avoid fluoride" YET they are pushing it as much as ever and making sure people continue to think it is safe. The CDC also said that fluoride has "no benefits for babies" HAH

What i mean is that the studies that found the fluoride beneficial to the teeth, only used it topicaly. The idea for adding it to the water was made after these studies. IMO, it is a crime to make such decisions like this. And still perpetuating the problem..

 

[Nycdeisel]

Absolutely, I agree Vorrange
It is very dumb to say its benefit is for teeth, then force us to swallow it in our tap water.

 

[idtpx]

Has anyone else noticed any negative respiratory effects associated with daily vaporizer use?

However, I still cough a lot while vaping and I usually experience significant chest tightness afterward. Other symptoms include coughing, sneezing, general chest congestion, and slight wheezing.

Please discuss

I'm daily user of Volcano vaporizer.
Almost exactly same thing happens to me sometimes when:

Airpath is not clean - and not clean is quite relative.

Sometimes It can be extremly clogged - (~ one month of heavy daily use ). And no infection whatsoever.
However sometimes airpath could be quite clean (~ one week of usage) and I'm still getting those symptoms.

It usually takes me maxium two days to recover from these conditions. (Usually its fixed during one sleep cycle). I think it is infection because mucus has sometimes very disgusting taste when you spit it out.

Usually but not always combustion is calming these symptoms for hour or two for me.

But I also exprienced almost instant healing from these conditions when I just cleaned whole airpath, changed my bag and vaped 0.1g of quality bud on 185C / 365F. Chest tightness magically gone. Big relief for my lungs. Breathing is now very pleasing (it almost seemed like mucus structure has changed and stopped blocking absorption of air in my lungs)



Also What really reduces irritation and chance to getting infection for me is huge water diffusion (like tens to hunderds of small holes) I'm making my own diffusors from ordinary drinking straw, using cheap glass bong.

 

[hnsenter]

I haven't tried vaping for "medicinal" purposes yet, but when I quit smoking cigarettes and switched to vaping, I dry cought A LOT for the first week or so. In some ways I felt like I was quitting cigarettes. As for vaping bud, I've only tried it once with some black widow on my friend's atmos, I found it a little harsher at first, but no serious issues for me.

 

[cawshook]

I woke up with major chest congestion, pain and irritation the other day. i finally decided to vape, and on the second or 3rd hit, i coughed everything out and the chest pain and congestion was gone.

 

[Clife777]

I found since i made the switch (Around 4 months ago) i dont cough up phlegm like i use to it everyday with combustion but i do get a pain on the left side of my chest, its only noticeable when i breathe in deeply or stretch and i don't get it all the time it comes and goes

and someone mentioned coughing fits, i found it got easier the more i used plus i got the haze V3 so icna change the screens between convention, conduction & cans which i find help alot

 

[Vapouristo]

I am prone to the same symptoms regardless of what vape I use and I have a few different ones. I find that my first few hits can cause this, but then it stops. It's hard to pinpoint what the cause is. I have hay fever so possibly "weed" vapor inhaled could irritate in that respect. Maybe it's the horrible pesticides sprayed on the plant and we get to inhale it in a purer form as vapor. Maybe it's the vaporizer air path. Maybe it's the fact that I was a 2 pack a day cigarette smoker up until almost two years ago and the vapor is a natural healthy expectorant. I don't know.

There are two things that work for me that I rely upon. One is a bong and especially with warm or actually hot water. Makes a BIG difference. Of course the only problem with that is that through a session the bong water becomes room temperature and unless I'm willing to replace the water several times through a session this is just a fact of life.

The other thing that works for me is a glass "tooty" with a carb hole. I know carb holes have a degree of controversy but trust me - that could solve your problem. Sometimes I sort of tap on it while I'm inhaling so I'm getting a mix of cool air in spurts through the hit and it goes down nice and easy - so easy that you can actually swallow the inhalation with no discomfort. Without it there's a good chance I'd be coughing and sneezing also.

"Natural healthy expectorant".... I had to read that again.

 

[west-elec]

Are you slightly asthmatic? It could be that the vapor is irritating that.

You said you get hay fever, boom. There is your answer.
Hay fever brings up your histamine levels, which makes you susceptible to irritants causing constructions in the vessels in your lungs. Just like asthma.
You may not even notice other hay fever symptoms but will still get tight chest if your histamine levels are high. The wheeze is a dead giveaway of constricted airways.
Antihistamines will help but best thing of all is Ventolin, or similar generic brand ashma inhaler. You will get instant relief as your airways relax and open.
My hayfever gets bad around this time of year and an inhaler has changed my life.

 

[Shadooz]

"Natural healthy expectorant".... I had to read that again.

That dig out... from back to my first mflb... 2012...

Expectorant are never "naturally healthy" they are use as "fire against fire" cure.
But, here, lot of People cough because of throat irritation, and it is nothing healthy...

Then they will say to have "high tolerance", which is mostly due to their subconscious blocking (throat puffing) and burnt pulmonary alveoli for smokers (which they don't even reach anymore)...

Expectoration is only use for specific mucus excess disease, and cannabis will not be used for them.

Now for the bronchodilation effect, A bit of glue (from gorilla or anyone else), will give a mecanical lungs reaction.
Good Added to the nervous resultant THC/CBD bronchodilation (the one u can get with edibles).
But will make it counter productive if too much, and with also acidosis amplification/complication...
get away from "milkiest" hit, to stay healthy, even more if respiratory issues..

Effects can be positive or negative depend of how and why u use them.

 

[Vaporware]

This thread is from 2012.

I’m not against you guys adding good information to this thread, but I do want to make sure you all realize everything but the last few posts is very old (mostly 2012), so a lot of the people who posted aren’t even here anymore.

Unfortunately you might not see this until after you’ve read and responded to it, but if you do see this at least you’ll know what you’re getting into. I added a more eye catching note to the top of this post too.