vapor-icer

[Beezleb]

This is a favorite thread hehe.

When people say the site is hard on manufacturers and sellers and the like, we can point to this thread. I think its fair to say many had their doubts on this and Iwien led the charge in calling it out. Good call!

I wonder if vapor world is still thinking of carrying these or showing them to girls hehe.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

looks like the vapor-icer manufacturer stopped posting. oh well, it would be a cool concept, if the cooling was simply in-cased in something other then the over the counter freezer bags. a custom insides, might dictate the price.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

what I think is also interest, both people who posted their experiences with the vapor-icer both commented on there being vegetable matter in their free storage cases.....
What the people at vapor icer can't think of free stuff so they send their own used storage cases? Either that or someone is shipping them their MJ supply in the cases and then they are giving the cases away? who knows....... makes you wonder though, why there would be vegetable matter in two separate orders...
after seeing the insides, I would not be tempted to buy one... make one for myself for far cheaper.

 

[AgentofChaos]

HAHA, thats great! I knew right when I opened my package something was fishy, lwien you are definitely an asset to this site, way to spot it from the jump. Even though its a cheap POS, it was well worth the money if it gives this site some useful info. I wised up and bought a mini Molino bong to keep my SSV company, there is just no substitute for the real thing.

 

[rbrown13]

I called this way back in this thread and I took a little heat for it too, I knew this was two funnels and some freezer gel, Nicole took offense to my igloo term I forgot that rubbermaid makes stuff like this also. It pisses me off to no end when companies like this try to rip us off because we are a non mainstream "specialty market" I hope in the future I don't offend people when I call out someone for trying to rip us off but then again I really don't care if I offend if the end result is people not getting ripped off.

Shame on you vapor-icer and nicole you should always take a close look at the horse you're backing it could turn out to be lame .

 

[Beezleb]

I thought at best they were using some kind of metal or other material but not quite as red neck as what they really did hehe.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

yeah... can make one of these for what... less than 6 bux? figuring each item costs just a bit over a dollar, and some tape... $10 if you want to make it out of metal.\
Also makes me wonder how the plastic on the blue ice will handle repeated hot air over time... I mean these packs are meant to keep food cold, not cool down hot air.

 

[minnesnowta]

Plus they recomended iso to clean it. Is that gonna do anything to those packaging. For some reason I don't think they'll be comin back.

Like Ive said before. Buy a bong...

 

[DevoTheStrange]

yeah... i would much rather go with a bong that has an ice chamber... no need or worries about the cooling device breaking down from use.
I still can't believe that this product is being sold to the public.

Now if they redesigned it and used different materials (Especially something different than a gell pack that might not withstand prolonged usage in exposure to hot air and maybe ISO).... make it where not anyone of the street can make their own... then they would have a product to sell.

 

[tokenitup]

Agreed. Something like this is a little too 'ghetto fab' for my liking. A few different pieces and we have a real option. (sort of)

All in all, I personally feel like the bong/water filtration can't be beat.

 

[VaporICER]

Hey everyone!

Thank you guys so much for posting the pics of the insides! Now, finally and again, people know that indeed we are using 100% non-toxic materials and the VaporICER does what it says - well. You guys are awesome, nothing is better than genuine reviews confirming that our offering delivers on its promise!

I said in the very beginning that we use cooling ice packs (read over the thread) and as for the funnels, they are custom made for us and are non-toxic and food-safe. Feel free to test them wherever and however you want.

Also, feel free to go out into your local supermarket or hardware store and look for the same materials we're using - it took us 3 months to just find safe materials, and we had to have most of them custom built and then pass all sorts of non-toxic regulations, etc. Perhaps all-day-enthusiasts (like the people here) can find a way to build a better, cheaper competitive product that works faster and easier. And, we invite you to do so, and will likely buy it from you, since this is a fun side business, not a profitable venture (as mentioned many times before).

Just remember that buying the Igloo Ice Packs you keep talking about, and hardware store funnels will not be non-toxic or safe (as we found out the hard way), so we've put months and months of research and development into making sure this is a safe and healthy product. But perhaps health is not your primary concern...

Regardless of whether you want to pay someone a minimal price for building you a one-of-a-kind custom and guaranteed tool to cool your vapor, or if you want to spend days of your (valuable?????) time doing it yourself with whatever pieces you might be able to find somewhere out there, the design will do what it says reliably, and will last a long time. We use these every single day for more than a year now, and have never had a problem or a need to replace them, even after cleaning.

By the way, if you're interested in getting yourself a FREE VAPORICER BLACK DIAMOND, check out the FREE BONUS GIFT tab on the top left of any VaporNation.com page

Thanks again for all the attention and for ALL the positive confirmation that the product does what it says!

You guys rock!

Nicole

 

[lwien]

LOL !!

One thing I gotta say, Nicole. You are one helluva tenacious lady. Gotta give ya props for that. Now all you need to do is find a product and company that deserves your talent.

".....we've put months and months of research and development into making sure this is a safe and healthy product. But perhaps health is not your primary concern..."
----Nicole

Now THAT ^^^ is............lol.........there's a very old Yiddish/Hebrew word for that. It's called, chutzpah !!

 

[VaporICER]

Hey Iwien!

Thanks for the compliment! "You are one helluva tenacious" boy too!

Nicole

 

[VaporICER]

(Or girl, didn't mean to offend you by calling you a boy Iwien, just don't know your sex)

 

[Konrad_Zuse]

What did you guys expect? There is only one TRUE way to cool your vapor, and that's the real way, with a good old piece of glass. The idea, it's a good one, but to get it to work is a little tricky, and I actually have figured that out, and that's with some good old Custom GLASS from CD. It's kind of hard to trust it works when they aren't offering anything good to satisfy you. It started off earlier in this thread about 2 months ago, when there is "no returns or warranties," and the fact "users replace their units every year." Also the fact that "We make no profits on this at all." I still find this one the best when you're selling a 2$ item for 50$. I wonder if you all realize what would happen if lets say the ice pack got cut open? Oh, yeah, you would be inhaling liquid into your lungs, fun fun?! I wonder what the constant hot air to cold air will do to these ice packs.

Nicole, you constantly contradict yourself. First

The VaporICER is so inexpensive compared to the vaporizers it supports that some people prefer replacing theirs once a year or so... However, it can be easily cleaned smile

Then

Regardless of whether you want to pay someone a minimal price for building you a one-of-a-kind custom and guaranteed tool to cool your vapor, or if you want to spend days of your (valuable?????) time doing it yourself with whatever pieces you might be able to find somewhere out there, the design will do what it says reliably, and will last a long time. We use these every single day for more than a year now, and have never had a problem or a need to replace them, even after cleaning.

If I want a "one of a kind piece" it wouldn't be your product, but a sick bong for which I love. OH I GOT THE PERFECT PIECE!!

http://www.headyglass.com/?page_id=86&category=3&product_id=56

Say hello to my good friend the bearclaw.

Also I find it HORRIBLY disgusting that in BOTH purchases there was HAIR or some kind of crap inside of the stashes. That right there is something hat concerns me, besides all of the other grease and shit in here. To the users who bought it, I would get lab tests done, and send it in to FC Labs. Besides what the hell is the flask for? We all drink now too?

The funny part about all of this, is the fact that you made a huge post saying how horrible myself, ash, and lwien were, and how disrespectful we were. The fact is that your shit is up in flames now, especially after you tried avoiding everything we asked to secure your own ego. I think we deserve apologies for the accusations you brought towards us, and the bullshit you spewed.

I really don't know what will become of this, but I see a lot of spam, and an ending to this vapor-icer. I don't think members of this site will want the product after what they saw. I hope you realize there are serious members here, and that FC is a serious place. We want results, not bullshit, lies, and scams. I might be one of the newbies, but I know what's what, and I know bullshit when I see it. I'm finally glad that we have had users test the products, and it went very well to find out the bull that is with this product. Thanks again to Clever, and agent for your findings, it completes my suspicion about the product to begin with. You failed in the wrong place, what a shame,

~Konrad

 

[Lo]

It's "L" Lwien and he is a man... An older and wiser man than you I'd venture to say

Okay I'm a woman and I'm blonde but man.... Don't think I'm stupid!

I am always very nice to folks here. I would like to offer you a bit of advice though.

Please do not insult the intelligence of posters here. There are some very educated and wise folks here. Your flippant responses which also neglect to answer some of the issues like the crap inside the 'free' stash boxes. Also telling us the rigid cooling system can be cleaned with ISO yet sending a product with lunchbox freezer packs and black tape?? Really, clean that with ISO??

I've seen those lunch packs bust after repeated intended use. I would never want to inhale the contents of said packets as the label suggests. I don't feel at all that your company's main concern is our health. I'm sorry to be blunt but... Welcome to FC!

I think you guys should go back to R & D

 

[lepstadder]

Well well well

so we know everything about it now

I have jumped in from time to time to try and play devils advocate and to stick up for vaporicer a bit.

Every one has given them a pretty hard time.

And yes the device is much more simple than assumed

And the safety of the gel packs if they do rupture would be dangerous

But it cools vapor!!! LOL

Sorry nicole for assisting in exposing your product to these relentless folks

But thier is a reason that this is the premier vape site.

One quick question

Is your plastic BPA free

 

[VaporICER]

Hey everyone,

Lepstadder, yes the plastic has passed all the standards required to be food-safe and non-toxic, which I believe includes making sure it is BPA free. The Ice Packs don't burst unless they are cut open because they are made for heavy duty use, and are not lunch box ice packs. Regarding the warranty - I did tell you all that we'd work with you if your VaporICER broke to make you 100% satisfied which includes refunding - tearing it open certainly doesn't qualify as an accidental break. I think Illadelph answered all the questions about a business' profitability... As for all the other questions, they've been answered in this 7 page thread and you can feel free to email us if you still don't find the answers.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS:

WE WERE ASKED AS A FAVOR by the FC Forum owners to join this community and answer some of the questions that began this discussion.

We have been 100% HONEST AND RESPECTFUL with all of you, and if something seems contradicting just re-read it and you'll see that it doesn't contradict itself.

We have THANKED every person who has reviewed the product for PROVING THAT IT WORKS. Thank you all again - now it is indisputable that the VaporICER effectively and easily cools down vapor, in a healthy way.

We have received NUMEROUS emails from the FC Forum owners and admins apologizing over and over for the member posts we've had to deal with here, as many have been incredibly unreasonable, beyond disrespectful, and perpetually repetitive.

We have been THANKED in those emails from the FC owners and admins many times for giving you the time to continue participating in this "war" that you are enjoying so much. We have also been told to feel free to leave anytime if this gets far too ridiculous...

OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE OWNERS and admins of FC we don't want to post their multiple emails here, but are completely willing to if the owners are okay with us publishing the exact letters - just shoot us an email, and we'll post all of the letters we've received.

WE GENUINELY APPRECIATE the owners' gratitude and apologies on behalf of the FC members, and respectfully accept the offer to withdraw from a war we never began. We believe the war will continue to go on without us, as people here seem to like that approach to communication and improving their worlds.

Finally, I'd like to say that I've treated everyone only with smiles, respect, and compassion - and there is NO HAIR in our FREE gifts. There may have been a drop of herbal residue, and we do apologize for that slight oversight and will prevent it in the future - however, its a FREE GIFT people...

THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR CONFIRMING THAT THE VAPORICER DOES EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS IT DOES!

With respect,

Nicole

 

[tokenitup]

Ok, I realize you are saying you want no part in any war, and I respect that.

But by selling a product - to the general public mind you - for $100 that really could be made with $10 (regardless of any testing you do, or even the fact that the LUNCH BOX ICE PACKS you use are HEAVY DUTY), you open yourself up to the feelings and opinions of the general public.

That being said, this seems to be one of the most informed Vaporization communities I've seen on the internet, and I have been lurking for a while. When you try to dupe experts into paying way too much money for something like your product, you open yourself up to even more opinions and feelings.

You are saying that your company 'was nice enough' to respond to this stuff. Hell, you don't have to respond, but I think the pictures of your product will say much more than anything any of us could say in words. All that not responding will do for your company is give it a negative view to possibly buyers.

 

[rbrown13]

well here ya go in case you want to build your own vapor cooling system:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-6-Set-SMALL...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item51877729f0

and I'm pretty sure this is the blue ice paks they are using:
http://www.professionalequipment.co...-fg102406-220/hydration-products/?source=pegs

and of course the tape:
http://www.hardwareandtools.com/3-4...-Tape-GTPC-512-by-Gardner-Bender-6748610.html

That is about $25 worth of materials to build at least 6 cooling units making them approximately $4.16 ea. I'm just saying that took me all of about 2 minutes to find these products.

 

[jordam]

This thread was so outrageous it prompted me to finally create and account and stop lurking, i just had to give them my !

Finally, I'd like to say that I've treated everyone only with smiles, respect, and compassion - and there is NO HAIR in our FREE gifts. There may have been a drop of herbal residue, and we do apologize for that slight oversight and will prevent it in the future - however, its a FREE GIFT people...

No hair? A drop of herbal residue? Now that might accurately describe AgentofChaos's stash jar to some extent i only see two or three flakes of weed (yes we all know what it really is). Albeit i even laughed when i saw that pic (Though not as much as i did when i saw the vaporicers insides). But it quickly lost its humor when i saw the second order HOW do you explain Clever User name's stash jar? It CLEARLY had animal hair in it when it was shipped to him, To deny that is an INSULT to the users of this forum.

Next, a word of advice. Watch yourselves, shipping ANY amount of marijuana is illegal federally in the united states, even more trouble to get into if you are using the united states postal service. You claim to have shipped out thousands of units (with 'freebies') if i am not mistaken. Thousands of chances for something to go wrong with your carelessness. Some poor stoner who likes to litigate for money might bring a quick end to this 'unprofitable' venture. All because you guys didn't clean out your used weed containers before slapping a sticker on them and passing them off as a freebie.

As for what i think of the unit itself, its a cheap piece of junk and not anywhere near the standard of this site. But i suppose it wont be around for long once anyone who googles 'vaporicer' get to #5 (as of this post) and read this thread and see the cheap crap and lies (unprofitable my ass) you sold us. Who knows, it might even be the first thing they click on, seeing as it is the first link that isn't your myspace, twitter, or website.

I have a feeling that once your proposed distributors start to trickle in to this thread we will be seeing these on ebay specials for $10, about what they are worth.

But hey, thats just my

 

[lepstadder]

Hello jordam!

Great first post, looks like you will fit in fine

 

[Ash]

I think Nicole's last post was the first one where the salutation didn't end in an exclamation point.

I wonder how many Fuckers thought the tech behind this was going to be so ghetto? I never liked the idea, even when I imagined something a bit more sophisticated, but I never thought it would end up being two funnels, an ice pack and some tape. I mean, seriously, The Electrician is coming up with better shit than that every week.

 

[justvape]

I still dont know how you can say inhaling hot air and thc through plastic filled with "anti toxic" gel, thats probably made in china is a good idea. Spin it how you like Nicole but it's still wrong. Manufactures should never put anything on FC unless they can back it up 150%. Your company reminds me of Wicked Root's except, they arnt dumb enough to post on here. That said, you have 2 things going for you, your customer service and a great idea. If you redesign your product i think you have a niche in the market.

 

[SkeletonLips]

It's like they knew it was junk, so they sold it at a high price, so people would be deterred from disassembling it and finding out it was junk. It almost worked until those pesky FCers got a hold of it.