Vapman or lotus.
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The vapman works by hitting the bottom gold plated bowl for a few seconds and then inhaling. So there is a both a bit of conduction and convection going on. I do believe the lotus is more on the convection end due to its design. A member that owns one will probably be able to confirm/dispute that.
Edit: Here is a diagram of how the lotus works. The website claims convection:
If I had a choice, I would give the lotus a whirl. I love my vapman, but the herb appears to be better shielded from the heat on the lotus. Only downside with the lotus, is if you are using the pipe stem, it's larger than the vapman. I like that my vapman is so tiny, and I can also use it on a waterpipe without any special adapter. But the design on the lotus definitely seems geared more toward preserving the flavour of your herb.
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Yeah, the Lotus in convection only, the Vapman is mainly conduction with some convection. But unlike other cases, the Vapman has a very good taste. Tweek will fill you in better regarding those details as i don't have one.
The Vapman is smaller and with a charged bowl (its not the most easy vape to use without some care loading it, but in use it is quite stealthy since you can hide it in your hand while heating it, and then holding it with your hand covering it.
If i didn't have the Vaponic i would get the Vapman, i'm considering geting one somewhere down the road although i don't need one.
The Lotus is better choice if the use is mainly without stealth in mind since it is too flashy to use in the open.
The quick heating time (~15sec per hit), allows you to go somewhere more private quickly if you want to use it on the road.
At home it provides a great loungy vape, or a big hitter in extraction minus the big bow which unless you have concentrate-level tolerance, you won't need anyway.
I would get the kit, it allows you to have an extra adapter and the torch lighteer with it, and the extra adapter is used with any 14mm water piece or sherlock you have to provide a very pleasant experience.
One i'm experiencing right now.
The Vapman is smaller and with a charged bowl (its not the most easy vape to use without some care loading it, but in use it is quite stealthy since you can hide it in your hand while heating it, and then holding it with your hand covering it.
If i didn't have the Vaponic i would get the Vapman, i'm considering geting one somewhere down the road although i don't need one.
The Lotus is better choice if the use is mainly without stealth in mind since it is too flashy to use in the open.
The quick heating time (~15sec per hit), allows you to go somewhere more private quickly if you want to use it on the road.
At home it provides a great loungy vape, or a big hitter in extraction minus the big bow which unless you have concentrate-level tolerance, you won't need anyway.
I would get the kit, it allows you to have an extra adapter and the torch lighteer with it, and the extra adapter is used with any 14mm water piece or sherlock you have to provide a very pleasant experience.
One i'm experiencing right now.
Vapman will be smaller for your kayak trips. The lotus is about 5inches long with the stem. Flavour wise, convection (lotus) will always win out. Vapman does tend to have a slight cooked taste, due to the direct conduction of heat from the gold plated pan, but it doesn't bother me. I get great hits with ease, even though there is a bit of technique to it.
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Yeah, the taste in the Lotus is very good until the end, due to its convection.
I have a teak vaporgenie and let me tell you this is MUCH better, no butane taste, no harsh vapor, you can actually clean it, and it is more efficient since you wont have the wood which traps too much vapor in every hit.
I have a teak vaporgenie and let me tell you this is MUCH better, no butane taste, no harsh vapor, you can actually clean it, and it is more efficient since you wont have the wood which traps too much vapor in every hit.
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Get the kit. It is worth the price difference IMO, and it will be just a tad more than the Vapman anyway.
Plus, the aluminium stem is more sturdy.
And from your setup, i think you'll welcome the addition. Do you have a water piece?
btka
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i am interessted in buying a vapman or lotus...
important for me: are taste, vapor, stealth, ease of use, efficency...
as i use at home my e-nano the lotus or vapeman will be used on the go mainly... i also plan to use it dry... (sometimes maybe with a bubbler)
... informations or a comparison or a pro and contra list would be great...
and if vapman mica or basic?
@KidFated. which one did you purchase and are you happy with your choice... and why..
thank you...
important for me: are taste, vapor, stealth, ease of use, efficency...
as i use at home my e-nano the lotus or vapeman will be used on the go mainly... i also plan to use it dry... (sometimes maybe with a bubbler)
... informations or a comparison or a pro and contra list would be great...
and if vapman mica or basic?
@KidFated. which one did you purchase and are you happy with your choice... and why..
thank you...
I don't know, I have the Lotus and have used/examined the vapman once. The vapman is quite an engineering marvel. But the Lotus is extremely simple - it's an elegant device with few parts to break.
To me, the Lotus is an AWESOME vape, but it's really hard to conceal (some will disagree, because if you can pop around the corner to hit a bowl, you can do the same with the Lotus). Though the Vapman doesn't appear very discrete to me, especially since both use a loud hissing butane torch..... If I need stealth, I reach for my Indica or Ascent
To me, I didn't like how hard it was to get the Vapman going. I like the clear visibility of the heatplate so I can manage my torch and get a SOLID hit, the Lotus works great because you can see what you're heating!
I wish I could give you a pros and con's of each, but I really didn't get enough time with a Vapman to give a full opinion of it, and the person who owns it (a fellow FC member) hadn't managed to master it even with practice!
I will say the Lotus is an awesome simple vaporizer, perfect for off-the-grid use. I bought one used for a friend recently, and thinking about buying a few more as Christmas stocking stuffers
To me, the Lotus is an AWESOME vape, but it's really hard to conceal (some will disagree, because if you can pop around the corner to hit a bowl, you can do the same with the Lotus). Though the Vapman doesn't appear very discrete to me, especially since both use a loud hissing butane torch..... If I need stealth, I reach for my Indica or Ascent
To me, I didn't like how hard it was to get the Vapman going. I like the clear visibility of the heatplate so I can manage my torch and get a SOLID hit, the Lotus works great because you can see what you're heating!
I wish I could give you a pros and con's of each, but I really didn't get enough time with a Vapman to give a full opinion of it, and the person who owns it (a fellow FC member) hadn't managed to master it even with practice!
I will say the Lotus is an awesome simple vaporizer, perfect for off-the-grid use. I bought one used for a friend recently, and thinking about buying a few more as Christmas stocking stuffers
Seren
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I've never tried the Lotus - but I do have a Vapman Basic. It's an extremely compact vaporiser, that fits neatly into its easily pocket-able smell-proof egg - which is perfect if you're looking for something for out & about.
It does take a little time to master - it's not the type of vaporiser you pick up and hit perfectly from the off. Saying that, I did get decent enough hits from it during my first play, albeit a little hit and miss. After a week or so though you start to get a real good feel for it - a little longer, you'll be a pro! It's actually a joy to get to grips, with if you ask me.
It's stealthier than I'd anticipated. I took mine to a gig a few weeks back - & used it sat in the beer garden surrounded by other punters and security. I lit it under the table, then cupped it in my hand to toke - no-one batted an eyelid.
The Vapman is highly efficient. It vapes evenly, can take extremely small loads, & packs a mighty punch! You do get a hint of woodiness (which I quite enjoy), & IMO the vapour quality is really good. It can be paired with water, although I've never tried.
The Lotus also looks like a great vape - they both have their selling points I guess. I know @KidFated. enjoys his - but I'll let him tell you all about that
It does take a little time to master - it's not the type of vaporiser you pick up and hit perfectly from the off. Saying that, I did get decent enough hits from it during my first play, albeit a little hit and miss. After a week or so though you start to get a real good feel for it - a little longer, you'll be a pro! It's actually a joy to get to grips, with if you ask me.
It's stealthier than I'd anticipated. I took mine to a gig a few weeks back - & used it sat in the beer garden surrounded by other punters and security. I lit it under the table, then cupped it in my hand to toke - no-one batted an eyelid.
The Vapman is highly efficient. It vapes evenly, can take extremely small loads, & packs a mighty punch! You do get a hint of woodiness (which I quite enjoy), & IMO the vapour quality is really good. It can be paired with water, although I've never tried.
The Lotus also looks like a great vape - they both have their selling points I guess. I know @KidFated. enjoys his - but I'll let him tell you all about that
True, that's a huge difference - With the Vapman - you preheat then start inhaling. With the louts, you keep the torch lit the entire time you take your hit.
If you need stealth to vape in public like that, the vapman is probably a better bet. I love my lotus, but really can't imagine taking it out in public unless I was able to sneak behind a corner for a few (but I'm always paranoid
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If you need stealth to vape in public like that, the vapman is probably a better bet. I love my lotus, but really can't imagine taking it out in public unless I was able to sneak behind a corner for a few (but I'm always paranoid
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KidFated.
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First off, thanks for asking my opinion, if only my girlfriend did that!
Actually I ended up with both
I got rid of both, and now I have 2 vapmans and I'm getting a lotus pretty soon. Both have leaning curves and both are GREAT vapes.. I like the conduction taste, so the vapman is good on that end. I would never hit a lotus in a parking lot, but I hit my vapman in my vehicle daily. I will be getting another lotus for out in the woods when I want convection, but mainly when I know I'll be stopping lots for whatever reason. I bing the vapman fishing and such and have no problem loading it in my canoe. I will say that my vapman feels more ¿organic? But it's really all about stealth, taste, and efficiency right?
You can pull bigger clouds from a lotus, but I never really tried for clouds with my vapman? Both with medicate very nicely! Get both? (Vas talking)
Also, vapman is very easy in the dark. I had a tiny bit of a learning struggle with the lotus at night.
Actually I ended up with both
I got rid of both, and now I have 2 vapmans and I'm getting a lotus pretty soon. Both have leaning curves and both are GREAT vapes.. I like the conduction taste, so the vapman is good on that end. I would never hit a lotus in a parking lot, but I hit my vapman in my vehicle daily. I will be getting another lotus for out in the woods when I want convection, but mainly when I know I'll be stopping lots for whatever reason. I bing the vapman fishing and such and have no problem loading it in my canoe. I will say that my vapman feels more ¿organic? But it's really all about stealth, taste, and efficiency right?
You can pull bigger clouds from a lotus, but I never really tried for clouds with my vapman? Both with medicate very nicely! Get both? (Vas talking)
Also, vapman is very easy in the dark. I had a tiny bit of a learning struggle with the lotus at night.
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btka
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yeah fu** Vas... i want both hmmmmmm
always the same...
do you have the mica or basic vapman ...
and by conduction taste... i only own a pax which is conduction and don t like the taste... so if you have used the pax is it like the pax in taste...
and as far as i know convection the first 2 or 3 hits taste great and after that it tastes similar like conduction to me... which is good if i can use small loads but if you have bigger loads, i would say as far as my opinion goes it doesnt make such a difference between convection and conduction... for example the e-nano is a convection vape and it is possible to load small loads so it makes a difference between conduction and convection for me... hmmm hope that makes sense...
very hard decission... fu** Vas
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always the same...
do you have the mica or basic vapman ...
and by conduction taste... i only own a pax which is conduction and don t like the taste... so if you have used the pax is it like the pax in taste...
and as far as i know convection the first 2 or 3 hits taste great and after that it tastes similar like conduction to me... which is good if i can use small loads but if you have bigger loads, i would say as far as my opinion goes it doesnt make such a difference between convection and conduction... for example the e-nano is a convection vape and it is possible to load small loads so it makes a difference between conduction and convection for me... hmmm hope that makes sense...
very hard decission... fu** Vas
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btka
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so after reading the threads of lotus and vapman... i have a question regarding the visible vapor quality... and i know this one is hard to answer because it is dependent with your technic... how much hits (with and without visible vapor can you achive... and how is the vapor quality (taste, density, visible vapor) of the lotus and vapman compared to the e-nano (i like it a lot so that is why i am asking)... thanks...
btka
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i own the e-nano...
thank you for your help @steama ...
fu** this decision is hard...
hmmm i don t need a home unit because i am happy with my nano...
i want somethng portable which is also stealth therefore i should buy a vapman ?... but as i am an ex smoker i also like visible clouds....
i also own a pax which i am using as an protable but i don t like the taste, the effects and feel of it... so hmmm would it be a good replacement for my pax... the only thing i like about the pax is the visible vapor and stealth to be honest...
because of its portability and stealth i think i am going to purchase the vapman but if there are no clouds i don t think i would be happy with that...
hmmm or should i buy a basic vapman and a lotus...
by the way this clouds seem nice:
but how knows maybe its because or the light or maybe he combusted?
thank you for your help @steama ...
fu** this decision is hard...
hmmm i don t need a home unit because i am happy with my nano...
i want somethng portable which is also stealth therefore i should buy a vapman ?... but as i am an ex smoker i also like visible clouds....
i also own a pax which i am using as an protable but i don t like the taste, the effects and feel of it... so hmmm would it be a good replacement for my pax... the only thing i like about the pax is the visible vapor and stealth to be honest...
because of its portability and stealth i think i am going to purchase the vapman but if there are no clouds i don t think i would be happy with that...
hmmm or should i buy a basic vapman and a lotus...
by the way this clouds seem nice:
but how knows maybe its because or the light or maybe he combusted?
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From the sound of it, I think you need the Vapman over the Lotus. The vapman can be preheated under a table before taking the hit.
The Lotus requires constant heat. In my opinion, speed is the only stealth aspect of the Lotus - I can finish a whole session in the time it takes to get the Vapman going. The Lotus is a beast, but I can't imagine using it on a sidewalk in plain view of the public. It's hard to hide sucking on a Louts pipe while holding a torch over it - doesn't look "natural", and will draw attention.
If you need Pax like stealth and want better flavor, I think the vapman fits the bill
(Yes, it's hard to tell you that since I'm such a Lotus fanboy)
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