Vaping vs Edibles - A Personal Observation & Questions

[nickdanger]

First, I am a microdoser, both with vaping and edibles. My vaping session might consist of one hit from a VapCap or several hits from a battery powered portable device. The edibles I make are around 10 mg each, as close as I can determine. The strains I use are basically Indica or Hybrid.

I've noticed that sometimes I get anxiety when vaping, even a small amount, but never from the edibles. Is this because they are processed differently in the body?

Also, I've noticed that the edibles give me considerably more "cotton mouth" than vaping. My throat gets dry from vaping, but the dry mouth is quite persistent with edibles.

Anyone else notice anything like this?

 

[Baron23]

First, I am a microdoser, both with vaping and edibles. My vaping session might consist of one hit from a VapCap or several hits from a battery powered portable device. The edibles I make are around 10 mg each, as close as I can determine. The strains I use are basically Indica or Hybrid.

I've noticed that sometimes I get anxiety when vaping, even a small amount, but never from the edibles. Is this because they are processed differently in the body?

Also, I've noticed that the edibles give me considerably more "cotton mouth" than vaping. My throat gets dry from vaping, but the dry mouth is quite persistent with edibles.

Anyone else notice anything like this?

IMO, they are VERY different drugs...cannabis vaped vs cannabis eaten.

When you eat an edible, your liver processes the Delta-9 THC into 11-Hydroxy THC and that is what goes into your blood stream. IME the edibles are much more of a narcotic high. Very different than vaping or smoking, in my view.

Still, they definitely do have their place for many a med patient.

Cheers

 

[chlorophyll_man]

I find them very similar. I ate an edible today but felt like I'd been low dose vaping all day, even had to remind myself that I hadn't picked up a vape. I have a cold and the vapour has been agitating my chest so the edible was the ideal substitute.

 

[Bortz]

IMO, they are VERY different drugs...cannabis vaped vs cannabis eaten.

When you eat an edible, your liver processes the Delta-9 THC into 11-Hydroxy THC and that is what goes into your blood stream. IME the edibles are much more of a narcotic high. Very different than vaping or smoking, in my view.

Still, they definitely do have their place for many a med patient.

Cheers

I agree. This has been my experience as well. I use edibles (11-Hydroxy THC) for anxiety, muscle tension and aches, IBS, relaxation, etc. Vaping for depression, energy, creativity, or for fine adjustment of dosing, etc.

I find the balance between Delta-9 THC and 11-Hydroxy THC in my body to have the greatest impact on how cannabis affects me. Learning to adjust the ratio between the two opened up a whole new therapeutic avenue of cannabis for me.

 

[Madri-Gal]

I get cotton mouth both with vaping and edibles. I just take it as a reminder to drink more, and I have a glass of water nearby when I vape or consume edibles. Water helps process the cannabis, so I don't mind the reminder. Anxiety hasn't been a problem either way, if you ignore a green out I had from an edible.

 

[uncanni]

I've been giving tincture a rest for a couple of months, but I love tincture real early in the morning on an empty stomach: it gives a glorious high that lasts for around 2.5 hours with hours of relaxed state of body and mind afterward.

I don't fuck with edibles or combustion.

 

[CANtalk]

It seems I'm quite insensitive to edibles unfortunately. I would love to see more action from oral ingestion... but at least vaping brings the goods (for me).

While microdose-vaping recently with a few 0.040 gram bowls I ended up also indulging in a large dose of edibles for a change... and an even rarer-to-me chocolate brownie edible . I started with ~40 mg THC (reported) with my first piece and hrs later ended up doubling that to 80 ~mg with another piece . It was different... and an interesting night . Still, vaping to me is more full spectrum and much stronger even at much lower doses.

There's such a range in physiological responses with cannabis compounds across everyone... I wish I could get more kick from edibles/ingestion like many do . Lucky buggers .

 

[khronos]

I agree, it’s a more sedate type of high (edibles)... and I also get extremely dry mouth.

I plan to switch back to vaping soon...

 

[macbill]

I wish I could get more kick from edibles/ingestion like many do

We are different, you and I, as I'm a chronic cannabis user. Yet I, too, have to orally ingest upwards of 100mg of THC to get "off" marginally (just right for a flight). My normal stay-at-home "ride" is 200 mg. I've read (on the Internet, so you know its true) that the stomach can nullify up to 70% of ingested cannabis. Whatever. I'm just glad I have an abundance.

 

[Baron23]

While eating some fat prior to ingesting edibles is scientifically sound, I believe that they recommend a small amount about 45 minutes prior to eating the edible.

This is supposed to take care of the "first pass" effect through the liver (no, I'm not a medical scientist and really don't understand that process...but its googleable and I have read it before).

IMO, do NOT eat a large meal no matter how much fat is in it and then eat an edible and expect the same onset time and effects.

I like to eat them on an empty stomach with the fat as part of the edible...but I don't do edibles a lot. For one, my tolerance to them goes up very fast and two, the effect is much more narcotic to me and I don't enjoy them that much.

Cheers

 

[khronos]

I like to eat them on an empty stomach with the fat as part of the edible...but I don't do edibles a lot. For one, my tolerance to them goes up very fast and two, the effect is much more narcotic to me and I don't enjoy them that much.

Cheers

How long does it take for your tolerance to go up? I’m a month in and had to increase from 10mg to 20-30mg!

 

[Baron23]

For me, it zooms up quite quickly. Week or two and I’m seeing it easily.

Really, if o take edibles 4-5 times, my tolerance goes up noticeably.

 

[proceeds_the_weedian]

While eating some fat prior to ingesting edibles is scientifically sound, I believe that they recommend a small amount about 45 minutes prior to eating the edible.

This is supposed to take care of the "first pass" effect through the liver (no, I'm not a medical scientist and really don't understand that process...but its googleable and I have read it before).

IMO, do NOT eat a large meal no matter how much fat is in it and then eat an edible and expect the same onset time and effects.

I like to eat them on an empty stomach with the fat as part of the edible...

Cheers

Reflects my experience to a tee. The most efficient edible (or should I say drinkable) for me is butter coffee(some know it as bulletproof because of dave asprey(who is an ass)Its fat and coffee blended together,FFS. Whats with the marketing?.) with ABV-infused coconut oil.
I do IM and when I break fast with one of these puppies it gets absorbed QUICK. Like, twenty minutes I feel the first tickle and at half an hour-45 mins I'm fully there.
Edibles are waaaay different for me. Hitting the dosage and timing right can feel almost like a low-dose mushroom kind of thing. Fun!
In honor of this thread,I'm gonna make some infused chai and watch the final three episodes of "The Midnight Gospel".

 

[murf2010]

Reflects my experience to a tee. The most efficient edible (or should I say drinkable) for me is butter coffee(some know it as bulletproof because of dave asprey(who is an ass)Its fat and coffee blended together,FFS. Whats with the marketing?.) with ABV-infused coconut oil.
I do IM and when I break fast with one of these puppies it gets absorbed QUICK. Like, twenty minutes I feel the first tickle and at half an hour-45 mins I'm fully there.
Edibles are waaaay different for me. Hitting the dosage and timing right can feel almost like a low-dose mushroom kind of thing. Fun!
In honor of this thread,I'm gonna make some infused chai and watch the final three episodes of "The Midnight Gospel".

I second this. Especially the mushroom part! Love a good trip! Nothin like it

 

[3dfx-glide]

First, I am a microdoser, both with vaping and edibles. My vaping session might consist of one hit from a VapCap or several hits from a battery powered portable device. The edibles I make are around 10 mg each, as close as I can determine. The strains I use are basically Indica or Hybrid.

I've noticed that sometimes I get anxiety when vaping, even a small amount, but never from the edibles. Is this because they are processed differently in the body?

Also, I've noticed that the edibles give me considerably more "cotton mouth" than vaping. My throat gets dry from vaping, but the dry mouth is quite persistent with edibles.

Anyone else notice anything like this?

You're talking way different dosages with your personal uses. One hit from a VapCap is about 1mg THC, and you're comparing that to 10mg THC from your edibles. Edible potency doesn't scale like vaping does, either. 10mg of an edible may feel closer to smoking a whole joint (~25+mg) and for the entire day vs a couple hours.

Different beasts with vastly different dosages, for you

I stay away from concentrates and edibles because of their potency. If you micro dose, it will ruin your micro dosing abilities since you'll be desensitized to the smaller doses. Loading up multiple VapCap caps to feel the same as a half a cap used to feel just because you started getting hooked on oil or edibles, sucks, and the feeling from vaping will just feel very dulled down, until you take a tolerance break

For casual users it's fine, but for those medicating (i.e using frequently), it's not something you can keep up with if you still want to vape on the side, I found