Vaping Other Drugs? (Curious)

[purplemudkip]

First thread on this forum. I'm finally glad to be part of the community that helped me decide to get my EQ that I love like crazy.

Is it possible to put other drugs into a vaporizer and get the effects? Like if I put powdered cocaine in my EQ could I theoretically vape it (at whatever temperature it vaporizes) and feel the same effects? Would it be like a powder high or like a crack high?

I think coke is overrated, expensive, and that a 40 minute high isn't worth a 4 hour crash. I know that discussion of other drugs is discouraged, but I'm just curious as to what would happen if one were to try this.

 

[OO]

it would work as long as you can reach the vaporization temp.
i've tried caffeine from green tea, and that works. coffee, not so much.
cocaine's boiling point is 187 C
caffeine sublimation point is 178 C

many vapes get into this range, so i say it is possible.

 

[vape4health]

Sorry to be off topic but that really makes me think of something from "JackAss" . Here dude check out my new vape then bam a face full of powder .

Wouldnt vapin coke be just like free basin , thats one hell of a hole to be standing next to .

 

[asquishyapple]

Well cocaine is in a salt form and doesn't vape well in that form. thats why you either have to freebase it or turn it into crack to "smoke" it. When you smoke it all you're doing it melting it down and basically vaporizing it so i don't think that would be much different from using a vaporizer.

You could easily vape something like DMT that has a relatively low vaporizing temperature. and possibly, depending on what type of vaporizer you have, you could vape salvia. however salvia has a very high bp which is why its generally recommended to use a torch lighter or a bic with the lighter held over constantly when smoking salvia.

anything you can smoke you can theoretically vaporize. generally salts don't vaporize well and should be in a freebase form instead.

 

[AGBeer]

anything you can smoke you can theoretically vaporize. generally salts don't vaporize well and should be in a freebase form instead.

So based on this logic, one would be able to successfully vaporize the cocoa (or caco - cant remember which it is) and get the same effects? We are theoretically doing this with tobacco as well as nicotine is a salt.

 

[Nycdeisel]

Cocaine comes from Coca leaves.

I think some things, like tobacco and other smoking herbs, as well as DMT, though it would be in a crystalline form...

 

[SalamiCity]

You can vape anything really, don't vape hops though, you'll lose your breathe, my friend was bright red and couldn't breathe.

 

[JJ420]

You could easily vape something like DMT that has a relatively low vaporizing temperature.

Dude... Vape + DMT = Blackout into another dimension!

 

[purplemudkip]

So I'd still have to make coke into crack in order to vape it effectively?

 

[toxicc]

anything you can smoke you can theoretically vaporize. generally salts don't vaporize well and should be in a freebase form instead.

So based on this logic, one would be able to successfully vaporize the cocoa (or caco - cant remember which it is) and get the same effects? We are theoretically doing this with tobacco as well as nicotine is a salt.

Industries add ammonia to tobacco to freebase the nicotine to make it more powerful and addictive. They also add a shitload of other crap, like acetone so that the cigarette continue to burn when you are not puffing.

 

[luchiano]

I don't think all companies do this for instance American Spirits tobacco have the highest level of free base nicotine yet they do nothing to their plants. I think the reason why it's so high is the drying is what releases the nicotine from the salts.

Plus I don't feel nicotine is addictive, it's the toxins and metabolites that are addictive along with the ritual because when you look at how much people smoke they build up a bunch of byproducts in their system that aren't flushed out due to their lifestyles of inactivity or lack of healthy eating and these byproducts are keeping them locked into the addiction. Also, they have trained their brain to connect relaxation with lighting a cigarette and blowing smoke and tasting the smoke not the nicotine itself. The same can be said of people who smoke weed all the time. They just like the ritual of weed and the byproducts of smoking/vaping is what keeps them irritated if they don't smoke, not necessarily getting high.

Sure the nicotine and thc is what keeps them coming back but it's not what keeps them destroying themselves, that comes from their lifestyle.

 

[george]

American Spirit Organic rolling tobacco

Thats what i have. I smoke when i want to (not often nowadays) but i don't get addicted. Sometimes i smoke once a day and sometimes once a month. Then i'll go without for awhile once i run out.

Vaping tobacco is lame in my opinion, doesnt give me any noticeable effect and doesnt taste good or anything.

 

[OO]

American Spirit Organic rolling tobacco

Thats what i have. I smoke when i want to (not often nowadays) but i don't get addicted. Sometimes i smoke once a day and sometimes once a month. Then i'll go without for awhile once i run out.

Vaping tobacco is lame in my opinion, doesnt give me any noticeable effect and doesnt taste good or anything.

have you seen the vapolamp?

supposed to be excellent with shisha.

 

[george]

American Spirit Organic rolling tobacco

Thats what i have. I smoke when i want to (not often nowadays) but i don't get addicted. Sometimes i smoke once a day and sometimes once a month. Then i'll go without for awhile once i run out.

Vaping tobacco is lame in my opinion, doesnt give me any noticeable effect and doesnt taste good or anything.

have you seen the vapolamp?

supposed to be excellent with shisha.

Ya it looks excellent. Shisha is a lot different in my view though. Regardless, i'm excited for the vapolamp, i might pick one up mainly for shisha.

 

[frogbmth]

I don't feel nicotine is addictive, it's the toxins and metabolites that are addictive along with the ritual

A growing body of scientists agree with you. Traditional thought is that nicotine is the cause of tobacco addiction. Several modern studies have now shown that this is only true when nicotine interacts with the MAOIs in the tobacco. This is why people quitting smoking with nicotine replacement therapies still experience withdrawl, and they hit a wall at 21 days. That is how long it takes for the MAOIs to deplete, nicotine leaves your body in 24 hours. The often quoted idea that nicotine is the most addictive substance on the planet is outdated, but our governments still tell us it is true. Sound familiar?

NRT has a 4% long term success rate, it will be interesting to see if better therapies are developed as we learn about the real cause of tobacco addiction.

Also, although there is this big stop-smoking scare tactic about the additives in tobacco, it is really only the Carbon Monoxide, Tar and TSNAs that are the problem. Everything else is insignificant in comparison to these 3 things.

I'll let you get back to topic now

Andy

 

[frogbmth]

Vaping tobacco is lame in my opinion, doesnt give me any noticeable effect and doesnt taste good or anything.

Try other tobaccos, the best IMHO is home grown, and some pipe tobacco tastes just awesome when you vape it. My favourite at the moment is Peterson's De Luxe honey, walnut and vanilla.

 

[OO]

Vaping tobacco is lame in my opinion, doesnt give me any noticeable effect and doesnt taste good or anything.

Try other tobaccos, the best IMHO is home grown, and some pipe tobacco tastes just awesome when you vape it. My favourite at the moment is Peterson's De Luxe honey, walnut and vanilla.

where i live we have tall tobacco plants that grow on the side of the freeway and in our yards, it's about 5-6 feet tall, has large leaves, and small yellow flowers.

could i process and vape it?

 

[frogbmth]

where i live we have tall tobacco plants that grow on the side of the freeway and in our yards, it's about 5-6 feet tall, has large leaves, and small yellow flowers.

could i process and vape it?

Be careful, it is most likely Nicotiana rustica which is some seriously potent stuff. I have some and a tiny amount has a hell of an effect. It has up to 10 times the nicotine level of a normal brightleaf tobacco plant.
You need to be sure that you know exactly what plant you are using, but yes you can vape tobacco plants - either green leaves or after home curing. There is lots of info on the web and on youtube showing how to cure tobacco.
I am personaly not good enough at plant ID to risk vaping a wild plant, it is so easy and cheap to grow your own and then you know exactly what you are dealing with.

 

[george]

Vaping tobacco is lame in my opinion, doesnt give me any noticeable effect and doesnt taste good or anything.

Try other tobaccos, the best IMHO is home grown, and some pipe tobacco tastes just awesome when you vape it. My favourite at the moment is Peterson's De Luxe honey, walnut and vanilla.

Thanks man, i'll try some pipe tobacco soon.