After some staff discussion I've decided to close this thread. The intentions behind it are noble, but it sets some bad precedents.
I know that many people are excited about these two vapes. The Sublimator has been getting praise for its big hits, so it makes sense to compare and contrast with the Cloud, another big hitter. A number of members own both units and have posted comparisons in the respective threads, the same way they have with other models.
While the intentions behind this thread are good, I don't think it addresses the problems it seeks to. For one, it isn't going to curb insensitive, inconsiderate, or unqualified statements. Members who insist on breaking the forum rules by bashing vapes--which they often haven't used--need to get into line with the rules they agreed to.
It also sets a bad precedent by catering to lazy members. If you want to learn more about a vape here you should read the model thread. If you think they're too long, you can help by refraining from making low-content and unhelpful posts in them. Far too often I see members hounding for more info when they clearly haven't read even the last few pages. If you can't take the time to read the thoughtful posts throughout a thread that's your prerogative, but don't expect others to spoon feed you the info they've taken the time and effort to put out there.
If you want to help time-strapped members you can compile a list of links to informative comparison posts.
www.vaporpedia.com might be a good place to put it. I hope no one gets bent out of shape about this. After 5+ years of running this forum I think our staff is qualified to make the right call here.