Vapes in hotels
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Caligula
Maximus
It can yes but it would take a lot of intentional effort IMO. FWIW ecig guys have tested this. Yes their e juice will set off a detector but as described above it took big clouds blown directly onto the alarm to set it off.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
Most older smoke detectors you would have to sit and blow even your Cigarette Smoke into it to engage the alarm. Back when i was a real person and owned my own home and all, I smoked cigs, Bongs and joints in my house many times everyday and the smoke alarms didn't care. but burn toast in the toaster or turn on the broiler to whip up some crispy bacon and they all started screaming their "warning warning" alarm.
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tuk
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If you put the smoke detector inside 2 plastic bags held in place by a thick rubber band then the answer is no
If not, it will depend on you & the smoke detector, how it's been configured & to what tolerance, don't be surprised if in the near future detectors start purposely detecting vapour, it's only a matter of time before the insurance companies catch up.
Think this is pretty old tech, I remember an electrical engineering lecture about 25 years ago the speaker was reminiscing(so must have been longer than 25 years ago) about installing a fire detection system in a fireworks factory, he was saying it was on a hair trigger...so he could flick a lighter on behind his back and the detector would go off...didn't even need line of sight, something to do with the casting of flickering light if I recall, should be quite simple using a photo-resistor & the right logic.
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theCerberus
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Short answer, no. Long answer, yes but you have to do it intentionally.
exactly what I was thinking. my dorm room had smoke detectors everywhere but you had to blow your joint/bong smoke directly at the thing to set it off. if the smoke was blown out a window, it would never set off. yes, burning something in the kitchen would set that shit off all the time.
If you put the smoke detector inside 2 plastic bags held in place by a thick rubber band then the answer is no
If not, it will depend on you & the smoke detector, how it's been configured & to what tolerance, don't be surprised if in the near future detectors start purposely detecting vapour, it's only a matter of time before the insurance companies catch up.
if we had vapor detectors you couldnt make tea or coffee or cook anything, so i doubt that is ever going to become a thing.
I doubt its even feasible because vapor dissipates so fast anyways, it would be hard for it to reach a detector before its gone. Again its just a matter of blowing directly into the thing. Enough hot air will set some off due to temperature detection.
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FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
I just don't get what the big deal is. People smoke tons of drugs in thousands of different hotel rooms every night in major cities- it is just not a big deal. Vaping is even less concerning, smell dissipates in 15-20 mins. Heck, your stash probably has more a lingering funk than any of your vapes.
tuk
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I dunno why anyone would make such a detector.
Electronic detectors operate way way below levels of human detection, if you can smell it then technology can to.
theCerberus
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I think you are missing the point. the vapor would dissipate and wouldnt be vapor. at which point its no longer a vapor detector. i dont think its feasible. there is nothing to detect after a few seconds.
at least smoke stays in a cloud. thats what sets off the detector. a large cloud. unless you are blowing your vapor directly at it, its not going to ever work. the cloud is gone too fast.
tuk
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theCerberus
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tuk
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Could it be because it's illegal and/or against hotel policy?
There is all manner of shit going down in hotels but that doesn't mean anything goes, even in Amsterdam you have to make sure the hotel is pot friendly...some are very nervous.
For some people getting busted with pot could mean the end of their career or worse.
FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
After a lifetime of staying in hotels, I would argue hotels are a place where anything goes
The only persons hotels ever take issue with are noise violations and persons disturbing other guests. Potheads and vaporizers do not typically fall into this group.
No one gets kicked out of a hotel for smoking/vaping pot; 99% of the time those that get the boot are committing other violations.
The only persons hotels ever take issue with are noise violations and persons disturbing other guests. Potheads and vaporizers do not typically fall into this group.
No one gets kicked out of a hotel for smoking/vaping pot; 99% of the time those that get the boot are committing other violations.
tuk
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Smoking anything indoors in a public place is banned by law where I am, taxi drivers aren't even allowed to smoke in their own car, recently people have been pulling out e-cigs in bars & restaurants and being asked to leave, the defence is that its not smoking but business owners are having none of it.
Maybe thats an American thing, like I said even in Amsterdam some hotels are nervous about pot, they have signs up & they make it very clear its not welcomed.After a lifetime of staying in hotels, I would argue hotels are a place where anything goes
No one gets kicked out of a hotel for smoking/vaping pot
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theCerberus
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Its their right to do this as its their PRIVATE business, although I cant help but feel they are being ignorant of what vaping is.
There are other people in PUBLIC places with terrible body odor and odorous perfumes that I would prefer not to smell, but do not have a choice. They aren't allowed to smoke in these places but are still allowed to stink of it. I dont get why something that smells 1/2 as bad as any of these things, and has no 2nd hand effect is banned, but again, its not my business, and I can choose not to go there.
People who are scared of these things want to control everyone, its not smoking, not affecting anyone more than the smells they can already make, and has no argument to be banned. Its just more freedom that we lose every day.
To put it in further perspective, spray an air-freshener that contains the same PG as an e-cig, and no one would ever complain you did it. Wash your hands with soap that contains the same PG as an e-cig, same deal.
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MichaelAB
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Indeed.
Most hotels provide a plastic shower cap - wrap it around the smoke detector, with a few twists and a tuck to tighten it up and take care of the excess.
For the combustor especially, a length of tubing pinched between the window--that will only open a crack!--is a pretty good way of keeping at least half the smoke out of the room (use the tube to exhale the smoke out the cracked window, of course). Obviously, covering the bowl to stop the smoke after inhaling will help minimize the smoke "escaping" into the room.
I've been to plenty of hotels where the bathroom's fan was nothing more than a small intake in one place, an out in another place, with a charcoal filter between. No dice, Chino.
Plenty of us get lucky, or have little to worry about most of the time. Gotta watch for those one timers, though.
RUDE BOY
Space is the Place
A Very delicate CO detector will often respond to even a small cigar butane torch lighter.I've dabbed and vaped in hotels with non opening windows many times without issue... yet when at my buddy's place in his man cave, he had a PITA smoke detector that goes off a couple seconds a micro torch is lit but not during vaping clouds
theCerberus
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I got new hand-soap around the same time my aunt was visiting for a few days.
I honestly thought she had been sneaking e-cig puffs in the washroom until I looked at the soap ingredients and realized PG, PEG and whatever deodorant/flavours were all in there.
Similarly I've been hearing Disney banned the use of e-cigs in non-smoking sections of the park. But ironically Disney has been testing and using PG, or quite literally large e-cigarette "odor machines" and "smoke machines" in their rides for years. I find it odd that they feel its safe enough to spray in peoples faces during the ride, but its not OK for an adult to enjoy freely in the park, as it effects no one.
I honestly thought she had been sneaking e-cig puffs in the washroom until I looked at the soap ingredients and realized PG, PEG and whatever deodorant/flavours were all in there.
Similarly I've been hearing Disney banned the use of e-cigs in non-smoking sections of the park. But ironically Disney has been testing and using PG, or quite literally large e-cigarette "odor machines" and "smoke machines" in their rides for years. I find it odd that they feel its safe enough to spray in peoples faces during the ride, but its not OK for an adult to enjoy freely in the park, as it effects no one.
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Caligula
Maximus
They can ensure whats in their juice. Cant for every joe blow that brings a mod into the park. Id probably be okay with PG being vaped around my kid. PG laden with nicotine, not so much.
Gunky
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I have often vaped in motels without issue. I did get slung out of a motel in Montana a couple years ago for vaping in a non smoking room. The maid smelled something and ratted me out, whereupon I had a very awkward conversation with the management and got heaved out and lost a couple days rent.