Vape for elderly patient with Fibro?

[Pete Jones]

80 year old licensed patient has been using the original Pax. Not a heavy user, and ease of use without much fuss is important. She uses a little during the day occasionally and just a few puffs at night to help sleep. She is not a particularly technically knowledgeable or handy person. I'm thinking E-Nano, Arizer Air, or Pax 2. Any other suggestions? Thanks.

 

[vapebuddy13]

Haze is solid. Only vape I have used so take with a grain of salt but it is very simple to use and very easy to clean

 

[max]

You might want to contact @Vitolo via PM. He fits vapes to medical users all the time, and is familiar with a lot of different models. From the vapes you list, I can easily give a to the e-nano. Even cleaning is easy if you have the right size brush.

 

[shredder]

Not sure how the patient can manipulate her hands, some elderly might have issues loading, and stirring the load on an enano stem. Crafty and mighty have a easy loader that works well and might be better, depending on the patient. And if she liked the pax 1, a pax 2 should work just as well.

 

[max]

some elderly might have issues loading, and stirring the load on an enano stem.

I don't know that it's a good choice in this instance, but loading is simple as long as you can hold the stem. You just dump some herb in your palm and scoop it up. If you can't do that you'll have problems with most models. As for stirring, it's not necessary, especially if you don't pack it full.

 

[RUDE BOY]

If the glass stems for the e-nano present a problem a Underdog with the nylon stems is simple to use. You just suck up the herb into the ss bowl which just holds enough for 3-4 hits at most, then you simply blow the avb into the little muslin avb bag, doesn't need stirring and they can't be broken like the glass stems.

Very easy to use and I know even my 88 year old mother(who doesn't vape) loves 'em running with the aromatherapy cups and a little peppermint or lemongrass oil.

Pax 2 looks like it would be simple too if she liked the first Pax it would probably serve pretty well.

 

[Pete Jones]

Thanks for the responses. I believe that she's leaning toward the e-Nano for an upgrade from the Pax, with the thought that she can still use the Pax when necessary for travel. I'm concerned about some of the comments about the need for fine motor skills with the e-Nano. I was figuring that it was as easy as a normal log vape like the CRZ, for which you can just use the stem as a straw to suck up material and then tamp the end. Is the e-Nano more difficult than that. Is loading the basket tricky at all, and does it get moved too easily during use? Thanks for the help. Although I generally use an ESV for a portable, in searching I read about the Crafty. That sounds great, but it's too much for this patient.

 

[stickstones]

I agree with @max , I wouldn't get anything without talking to @Vitolo . He may say the same thing as others here, but on more than one occasion he has surprised me with a vape I hadn't considered. I know of no one else like him and his perspective. He actually tests vapes with his eyes closed to see if they are siutable for the blind, and even uses them one handed, among other things. I say wait.

 

[Pete Jones]

Thanks. I sent a note to @Vitolo.

 

[Vitolo]

Blunt honesty is best in a spot like this.
No offense to the makers of any vape listed here already... as I use them all and love them.
If going with a log vape, I believe firmly that Nylon stem with stainless steel tip is the route to take.
These were the standard for Aromazap, and for the now extinct Woodeez. Purple Days also used this style, although a slightly tighter size.
The issue with most senior patients is that after a time the screens get clogged.
Many patients are diligent about keeping the tube clean and they do well.
Some allow the clogged screen to grow, and they run into the need to clear the stem with a pointy tool.
The screens can be poked out and are difficult to get back in (for a patient with limited dexterity)
If they can do that regular maintenance I would say UD (Underdog) is a good bet!
My greatest successes have also included the Solo.
The Solo is a patient pleaser.
It has a solid feel that makes a patient feel confident.
No games or trickery with the stem. it goes in easily, and is cleaned so quickly and smoothly (especially the straight stem.
The solo also has an auditory signal to help keep a senior patient "on task".
It beeps at session's end, making it a convenient reminder.
The buttons are easy to hit even for the most impaired hands.
@PlanetVape makes stems that are available in a shorty GonG type, which is a very thick and solid choice for a patient... not to mention @Ed's TnT having some solid wooden choices for the solo.

The solo also is a solid home vape so it doubles as a portable and home unit.
If the unit is for continued home use only, the choice for me would be the UD Vaporizer with Nylon stem.
If for use around the yard, and home and even in the bathroom..... or while being whelled about in the garden.... Solo would be my choice.

 

[Pete Jones]

Thanks for the input!

 

[Beezleb]

Its been a long long time since I talked on vapes so I am outdated. I would consider a vape like da budda vaporizer or similar and I would check out the Zephyr and volcano style of vaporizers.
While are nice, they might be more problematic for an older user to replace bags once they wear out but the zyphyr has a whip attachment which will then offer assisted air which may be beneficial though these vapes cost a bit more.

I also recommend vitolo. I recommend a vape that will be effective and easy to use and maintain for the elderly.