Vapcapping in the wind!

[Alexis]

Hi all. Im just curious how you fellow vapcappers (whichever model) cope with heating the vapcap outdoors with a breeze.
I have been using my Omnivap outdoors more this year but I find it practically impossible to use the torch in open air. I have the Dynavap quad torch (which I really like) and a single jet from Dealextreme.

Even in light breeze, I find it impossible. I am using a small rucksack to fold around and use the torch inside the bag while sitting down. Even then it can be awkward depending on the wind level. Without this method I would have no chance!

Pipes' Portside is the perfect solution here of course, and I would say puts Vapcaps right up there with the most discreet of vaporizers in public.

I have just ordered a supposed windproof torch from China. I don't know of these windproof labelled torches really are windproof or not. Surely the ones I currently have are not.
Here is the one I ordered:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253014598659

Very cheap, thought worth a try. Also for the flame arrangement. I tried out the Dynavap inline triple recently and actually combusted by trying to compensate for the faster click due to the clicker end being more in the inline flame.

With the quad torch, I always keep the flame below the tip of the cap to avoid a premature click. I didn't want to turn the triple the other way and heat a thinner portion of the cap, I have the single for that.

Sorry, of topic. I am either missing something big time, or I just need a windproof torch (?) , or maybe Bedford is just rather windy, but I don't think that is it somehow!

Not important anyhow, any replies welcome, and happy weekend folks!

 

[Squiby]

Outdoors, you need to either compensate for the wind or eliminate it. Wind will cool the cap as you try to heat it, so there is danger of combusting because the heat gets transferred to the chamber but the cap takes longer to click. Based on the outside temps and the velocity of the wind there is a sweet spot in there somewhere which takes some trying to get it right.

I prefer to eliminate the wind by finding an area that is protected from the wind, like behind a big tree and by using a lighter with a shield like @Phattpiggies mod.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/w...er-to-use-with-the-vapcap.23318/#post-1058592

 

[Alexis]

Outdoors, you need to either compensate for the wind or eliminate it. Wind will cool the cap as you try to heat it, so there is danger of combusting because the heat gets transferred to the chamber but the cap takes longer to click. Based on the outside temps and the velocity of the wind there is a sweet spot in there somewhere which takes some trying to get it right.

I prefer to eliminate the wind by finding an area that is protected from the wind, like behind a big tree and by using a lighter with a shield like @Phattpiggies mod.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/w...er-to-use-with-the-vapcap.23318/#post-1058592

Thank you once more Squiby you early bird, here you go- .

It is mostly when I accompany my mum to take the dog for a walk, but generally open spaces so this may be a factor. I have spent the entire walks ducking in every bush, tree etc and not managed to take a single toke until using the rucksack. Torch turned right up.

And yes I did notice how the wind can cool the cap and it can seem like the click will never come then you have one hell of a hit and the whole load done in one, throat ripped up, if you are not careful!

I am just bemused to think that hardly ever does this issue get mentioned, as if nobody has any trouble heating the Vapcap outdoors. From my expereinces, I actually see this as being maybe the only real deterrent for some friends who are very outdoor type. That's another reason Im hoping the "windproof" torches really will be windproof, or at least a bit better.

 

[invertedisdead]

Been using my OG a good bit lately outdoors. Never really had a problem lighting it until a few weeks ago when I went to the lake for an afternoon of boating. It was pretty windy so I did have some difficulties, even with my triple jet. I just tried to keep my hands low and use the sides of the boat for as much wind coverage as I could get. It ended up taking about twice as long to heat up, and I noticed my original glass vapcap was cooling quite fast, much quicker than I've ever experienced, which did shorten my sessions a bit. Plus I was lighting it for 2 other people so it was turning into a task.

I brought it to the golf course last week and it worked great, other than not being able to see the flame in the sunlight.

All in all I think it works well outdoors, though lighters and wind will probably never become best friends.

 

[lookhigh]

I wear a long coat and use it like a tent. My cheap Chinese lighters work ok with a breeze.

 

[Dynavaper]

I cannot help it: "Vapcapping in the wind" sounds like a song title. Could be a hit!

I close my eyes
Only for a moment and the moment's gone
All my dreams
Pass before my eyes with curiosity

Vapcapping in the wind
All we do is vapcapping in the wind

Same old click
Just a drop of water in an endless sea
All we do
Crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see


(Aa aa aa)
Vapcapping in the wind
All we do is vapcapping in the wind

Oh, ho, ho

Now don't hang on
Nothin' last forever, just your Vapcap does,
It slips away
And all your money won't another minute buy

Vapcapping in the wind
All we do is vapcapping in the wind
(All we do is vapcapping in the wind)

Vapcapping in the wind
All we do is vapcapping in the wind
(All we do is vapcapping in the wind)
Vapcapping in the wind
(in the wind)

 

[Morty]

I always liked what @phattpiggie did here

I removed the flip lid thing and modded a flashlight tube to make the wind shield.
It is now truly windproof.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/dynavap-vapcap.18853/page-313#post-1041957

Edit: Sorry, high AF. @Squiby already covered it. Per usual. Lol, just realized your avatar is a cat. I always thought it was a psychedelic looking slug.

 

[Hippie]

Pipes Vapcap induction heater
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/vapcap-induction-heater-for-desktop-and-in-car-use.23211/

 

[stardustsailor]

Actually there are two kinds of jet lighters .

The first one and the most known is the kind of jet lighters without a wire after the gas outlet.
The other kind is the jet lighter with a wire (usually holding a tiny piece/blob of metal to make the flame colored ).

The latter kind seems to be missing the "inner blue core " that the classic jet lighter flame has.
Moreover ,usually the flame of the "wired" kind is colored green or red in order to be easily seen in broad daylight.
This type of jet lighter seems to be more wind-proof than the "classic "one.

I've noticed quite a difference between those two kinds of jet lighters,when it comes heating the Vc at windy conditions.

Note: Referring only to the single flamed jet lighters.

Cheers.

 

[Dynavaper]

Note: Referring only to the single flamed jet lighters.

I can confirm this for jet lighters with multiple flames, too.

 

[phattpiggie]

@Alexis I wouldn't consider any torch to be windproof.
Get in touch when your torch arrives and if it's the same as my Hong Jing I can sort you out a windshield.
I don't use mine anymore as it appears to have developed a couple of cracks in the tank.
The Amoii is holding up well.
Both mods are good enough to be able to walk around and heat the VC.

 

[Alexis]

Thank you to everybody you are all so helpful. I do think actually that we have had generally pretty windy conditions this summer, or I have just been out on the windier days. I can certainly recall using my Omnivap outdoors last year with relative ease.

So I think it could be partly random weather variation, with real all-direction gusts, without the wind actually being that strong.

And I can go weeks or more between outdoor uses, sometimes a few times in a week.

I will need to go out and about to conduct some field research I think, in the name of science of course!

Just running some Think Different through the Omnivap and bubbler. Such EASY full hits but so smooth and cool. 3 to 4 per full bowl, with Pipes' induction heater as well. Just a little past click, 2 seconds perhaps, not too long, and it stays smooth and lovely!

Edit- it probably is 2 1/2 seconds. I don't count now, just a feel for it. Whenever I tried to count 2 1/2 it was always 3 due to slow reaction!

 

[herbivore21]

Actually there are two kinds of jet lighters .

The first one and the most known is the kind of jet lighters without a wire after the gas outlet.
The other kind is the jet lighter with a wire (usually holding a tiny piece/blob of metal to make the flame colored ).

The latter kind seems to be missing the "inner blue core " that the classic jet lighter flame has.
Moreover ,usually the flame of the "wired" kind is colored green or red in order to be easily seen in broad daylight.
This type of jet lighter seems to be more wind-proof than the "classic "one.

I've noticed quite a difference between those two kinds of jet lighters,when it comes heating the Vc at windy conditions.

Note: Referring only to the single flamed jet lighters.

Cheers.

This is something I've noticed too, I have one such wire-with-blob-of-metal-to-create-colored-flame style jet lighter and can also report that these are the best IME. Are there any links to somewhere to buy these in bulk that anyone knows of?

I too have noticed that my omnivap is fucking useless with my triple torch lighter when it is cold and windy. I have drained an entire tank of gas trying to get a single hit with concentrates in these conditions

 

[Flower of empathy]

Best outdoor vape in cold windy condition is vapman, tested at -20C - that's tough even for most battery vapes i've also tested vapcaps (glass was the best for cold) vaponic, lotus so far, all of them sucked outoors...
It's because the bowl is shielded / insulated by wood and hand (+the glove can stay on), and the bowl shape makes the flame usage much more efficient than other butane vapes.
Also keep the torch close to warmer body parts (eg inner chest pocket), they won't work if too cold - i've noticed single torches with a larger diameter seem to work best at cold temps and wind

 

[Andreaerdna]

+ 1 for @Pipes induction heater

For one heater isn't affected by wind, 2 it offers a wind shield to the cap while heating

2 birds one stone