gettin lifted said:
Rico420 said:
You know, the same thing happened to me after a few good ayahuasca and mescaline cacti sessions. The herb took on a whole new element that i was not used to, that's psychedelia. I can't vape all day like i used too with out getting unwanted side affects, however if i treat the herb like a psychadelic and use it to my advantage it really is a good tool. The affects it causes are very similar to what someone else described online, not sure where. Basically it causes massive self doubt, gets my ego going on hyperdrive and i have to be cold logical and rational when trying to get to why the herb brings certain behaviors out in me. someone called it looking at yourself though society's perspective, which just goes to show you how ridiculous perceptions of drugs and our runaway egos have become. but looking my thought processes on cannabis from a different vantage point, i have made massive gains in terms of why i do the things i do, and why i wanted to smoke/vape herb all the time. I think another thing to note is that my desire to use the herb has withdrawn as well, this was made even more evident by a realization that i had been using cannabis to soothe some deep emotional & psychological issues, issues that mother aya and grampa mescalito made me come to terms with.
I think another notable thing to mention in regards to psychadelics and habitual drug use is that ayahuasca vine, without admixtures (dmt cointaing plants) acts to help regulate addictive and negative states of mind. Not sure if the maois are making me less depressed, so i use the herb less, or if its just a general change in how i use and think about all drugs. But there have been studies done that the rimas (reversible maois) in caapi and rue can help modulate addictive behavior, similarly to ibogaine. the method that ibogaine uses is to have long-lasting secondary metabolites of ibogaine that stay in your body and act as neurotransmitters. This is very possible with lots of drugs, and much research needs to be done as to the anti-addictive potentials of psychedelics and their metabolites of all types.
I think its possible that psychedelic use (cannabis, classical trypts, phens, ergot-amines, ibogaine, harmalas) can have lasting neuro-chemical effects on the brain due to metabolites of the drug being similar to neurotransmitters in the brain. Lasting anitdepressive, antiaddictive, and a general positive and useful state of mind that allows self analysis.
I currently take aya vine without the admixtures 3-4x a week, and journey once a month with either mimosa or cactus. Since i have been doing this regularly, i have noticed positive changes in my life, in part a reduction of my abuse of cannabis. At the same time, however cannabis has become more useful to me as a psychoanalysis tool, and become less of an intoxicant/euphoricant/recreational drug and more of a teacher that DEMANDS respect.
I too feel happier using less herb, and being more perceptive to how drugs of all types affect me, especially food, placebo, and caffeine.
you are quite the knowledgable person. i however have started to notice ive been doing psychedelics more lately and weed much less, havent vaped in a few days, and then a few days before that and so on. but ive been tripping on shrooms once a week lately. (mostly because i live in florida and found a bucket full a little while ago. no complaints about that!)
ive been wanting to try aya sometime soon, but ill probably just stick to my dmt extracts because they are easy, cheap, and i genuinely enjoy extracting it.
ive been considering doing a nice low dose of shrooms tonight since i dont feel like vaping. low dose for me is about 3-4 grams of psilocybe cubensis (field picked) i usually do 5-10g at a time, yes i know this is a lot, but if i dont lose motor function on my higher doses then in my eyes i didnt take enough. i love that cant move, just gotta lay here in psychedelic eupohoria feeling.
i truely appreciate the responses from everyone, one of the main reasons i asked these questions here instead of a few other "stuck up" forums, not gonna name any names though.
good vibes everyone.
Yeah, aya is this shit. Hands down my favorite natural psychadelic. I think i misled you though as to my method or partaking. I too extract my dimitri, to clean fumarate salts, then usually brew up some caapi, and combine that with some really pure home extracted harmalas from rue. That is the only fool-proof method for me to get results, caapi is hit and miss, but have had some good experiences with it, its just rue is my fail-safe maoi.
MHRB tea imo fucks up your stomach in a good way with all the tannins, but i find it much better to just extract the alkaloids and get them real clean. Its fun to do & you learn alot about plant extractions of all types. Especially the common sense stuff that makes it easier next time. Extracting makes high doses hardly nauseating at all, besides the nausea from the alkaloids themselves acting on serotonin receptors in your stomach.
If you have never tried aya as in b. caapi or vine of the souls, i recommend picking some up from forestrx. They have kilos of 4x going for $33 right now. Another forum community i am a part of stumbled across this and it turned out to be a real good deal. Kilos of reg. caapi usually go for $70+. A kilo of 4x will last along time, and imo, rivals the price of a kg of rue. I never really got to "know" caapi until i got my 4x and was able to experiment in lots of different doses. Even caapi only brews can be psychadelic in a sense at high enough doses. Its been speculated that ibogaine and harmalas have a similar affinity to NMDA receptors, and this in part leads to the anti-addictive properties of some tryptamines/indoles. I find it really spooky and trippy that harmalas share the tryptamine backbone, and have such a complex relationship with tryptamines in many senses.
Man, how you take shrooms reminds me of mckenna's tried and true method. 5g, dark room, meditation. Thats where the real magic happens with the trippamines, and my preferred method of taking aya is high doses in the dark. Love the feeling of watching your CEV's blend into the OEV's until they are undiscernable and you can open/close your eyes without the visuals changing.
Have you ever taken harmalas with your shrooms? I've never been able to try this combo, but from what i hear, its very much like ayahuasca. Rightly so, being the only difference is the phosphorl group and the 4-oh. DMT = n,n-dimethyltryptamine psilocybin = O-phosphoryl-4-hydroxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine.
Thanks for the compliment, and damn, i wish i could find a bucket of shrooms
. Never found anything up where i live even though i know they're up here. That's one of the reasons i partake of the aya and pharmaya, because of lack of shrooms. Really wish i could find someone who could hook it up, but that's just wishful thinking with psychadelics
Good luck with your journeys, and its good to see other like minded people interested in theses topics.
