"unchilled highness"

[Giftkralle]

Hi Guys,

I was smoking weed since I was 18 stopped when I was 23 because I did not like it anymore.
Now that I am 27 I want to go back to vaping.
I already have a standard vape.

Started vaping again some days ago and had the funniest laughings I had for a while (180°C 0.05G bowls)

So I started vaping on 180°C with 0.05 or something, was chill and did this for some days.
Yesterday I had like 3 small mini bowls with 0.05 as said, was super chill nothing special.

Then I decided to get a 4 one and vape it on 200° 0.05 or so not very much like very very little.

But it got me so high, that I had to stop being on the computer and running up the appartement for like 35 minutes.
It was super unchill and I had a very bad body feeling.
It was almost like I could feel the THC hitting in my brain.

When I was younger I never had this issues - I could smoke 0.5g in one J and didn't had bad feelings like this..

Can anyone tell me what to do about this?

I know for a fact the weed is clean (self grown from a friend of mine)

Maybe try 1:1?

Thanks in advance guys !

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Hey,

There are a few things that comes to my mind reading your post.

Yesterday I had like 3 small mini bowls with 0.05 as said, was super chill nothing special.

Have you changed the strain you use ?
What vaporizer do you use ? Have you cleaned it recently ?

Depending on how it was cured, some strains will need more heat than others...

Also the difference in effects you had reminds me of two things : different strain or tolerance.

The use of THC doesn't affect the numbers of CB1 and CB2 receptors in our body but we develop a tolerance to its effects. Meaning that overtime the same amount won't be as effective as it was before.

A T-break (at least 4 weeks according to a study I can't find right now) could help you to find the effects you liked again.

Edit :
Our state of mind when consuming also have a big impact on the psychotropic effects we experience.

 

[Giftkralle]

I did not changed the strain.

I didnt smoked / vaped for some years.
I just started recently except for silvester I did vape there too and was getting a little paranoia? too.
But I did a break for 5 Months now and I am getting chill high when I put 0.05 in the vape and drawing 2 - 3 times at 180-190.
It's like a very very small chill high.
But then I started at 200° with fresh bud and draw 4-5 times and got super unchill, hyper, and wanted to end the high immediately...

The vape is a Wolkenkraft Äris Ultra. I clean it everytime I use it so its clean af..

I doubt I have tolerances.

But this bad feeling shouldn't be normal.
There are people smoking 0.5g for the first time and don't feel like I did last night.

It's frustrating ..

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Temperature also can have an effect on the high you get. @200°C there is much more THC converted into CBN than @180°C.

Maybe you should stick to 180°C and chain a second bowl if the effect aren't strong enough ?

I'm really thinking that you have changed the strain you vape and that this one does not suit you...

 

[Giftkralle]

Maybe I should stay with 180°C then.
But it's still kind of strange.

I mean I cant remember the last strain I smoked / vaped as its years from now in the past .

The state of mind thing you mentioned, I had a near death experience like shock some years ago.
I had a very bad life from then on for like 6 months, everything would get me stressed out.
And I had panic attacks when I did the most normal things.

But I didn't had any problems like this for years.

Yesterday I was like having a good day and nothing bad or smth happened.

I am ofc a hard thinking person - but I would assume that my "state of mind" is not bad at all.

So I doubt that it is this, as I could clearly feel how I got higher and higher to a point where it was just way too much for me to handle and "chill" you know?

Is it allowed to share pictures of the bud here?
As another friend said maybe it is molded?

I have a 200x microscope and took pictures of it, I don't know if I can share them here?

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Is it allowed to share pictures of the bud here?
As another friend said maybe it is molded?

I have a 200x microscope and took pictures of it, I don't know if I can share them here?

Yes you can !
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[Giftkralle]

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[Giftkralle]

Maybe I should mention that, I started vaping at 4pm yesterday and vaped the last at 11:45pm.

Maybe it will make a difference? IDK.

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Hard to tell from the pictures but from the video I think your material is fine. Harvested a little early maybe.

 

[Giftkralle]

Atleast the weed is clean

Just vaped 180° very little bud and it's chill. But with a small tone of paranoia. But just a little bit. Maybe ur right and it's the strain.

 

[el sargantano]

Hi @Giftkralle
Would be your friend grower's strain a racy sativa as amnesia haze by the way? Or possibly any other weed that makes your brain go into anxious mode after a creative phase?
A few years ago, during lockdown I vaped a lot of sativa (strong amnesia mainly) and checking it with friends some of them told me they had to switch that strain due to feelings resembling the case you illustrate.
I normally keep my temps low in a sativy freshy mint flavour vs quick temp stepping for sweety indica strains (this last only after dinner).
Don't push yourself too much and go outside for a walk, mental weel being relays on body & mind together.
Wish you luck

 

[Giftkralle]

Hi @Giftkralle
Would be your friend grower's strain a racy sativa as amnesia haze by the way? Or possibly any other weed that makes your brain go into anxious mode after a creative phase?
A few years ago, during lockdown I vaped a lot of sativa (strong amnesia mainly) and checking it with friends some of them told me they had to switch that strain due to feelings resembling the case you illustrate.
I normally keep my temps low in a sativy freshy mint flavour vs quick temp stepping for sweety indica strains (this last only after dinner).
Don't push yourself too much and go outside for a walk, mental weel being relays on body & mind together.
Wish you luck

I will ask him what strain it was.
Thank you I get hope from your post. Really appreciate it. I am also thinking of getting a better vaporizer like the Enano. It's on sale atm. Sadly I live in Europe and I have to pay customs.

 

[maremaresing]

It's just that you used a higher temp, which extracts more of the effects that are extracted at higher temperatures. This is confirmed by your describing it as a "bad body high". Maybe you don't like CBD and stuff, which is what lives at those temperatures.

I LOVE that body high and getting full spectrum effects (like smoking), and tend to feel awful if I just vape at lower temperatures. So high temp vaping is my jam. The nice thing about vapes like yours is you can pick the temp you vape at to exclude what you don't want. Just know you are leaving effects/chemicals on the table when you do.

Vapes hit much harder than smoking, too. You just got too high. It's okay.

 

[Farid]

I think much of it has to do with tolerance. I experience the same problem. It started after I cut back my usage. The only solution I've come up with is to smoke miniscule quantities (like barely cover the screen of a dynavap miniscule). The other solution would be to build my tolerance back up by smoking through the anxiety, but that's impossible with my career path.

I can take 1 hit, once a day in the evening and stay relatively grounded - though I still get absolutely blasted.

It probably doesn't help that I'm using the same Haze strain that I've had for years.

 

[Giftkralle]

Thank you all guys. I guess you are right. I guess its the tolerance.

 

[CANtalk]

Some people are more susceptible to the racy effects from vaping cannabis (often regardless of strain). And these things can present inconsistently as well. Pay attention to your vaping routine & amounts, & see how it goes over more time, like weeks to months.

 

[gmo67]

micro dosing is the best for you m8

 

[PeteyS]

Probably just the fact that you hit 4 bowls, with the last bowl being at at a higher temp then your used too.
Keep the temps lower unless you want to go to the moon.

 

[Giftkralle]

Sometimes when I vape its not nice for 30-60 mins. But after that its okay most of the time. I also switched to balanced weed 8:8 and 10:10 works okay for me. Sadly like @Farid I can't build a tolerance cuz of my career and restrictions with driving in my country.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

Something else that hasn’t been mentioned yet, is the type of vape being used and how that influences the effects. If I use the same dose size of the same strain there is certainly a very noticeable difference in effect based on vape choice.

What vape do you use?

I find when I use a convection dominant vape it can have a much greater effect on my mind and thoughts than a conduction or hybrid vape. As I turn up the temp on these convection devices I start to get some quite unpleasant effects in terms of my mind beginning to race, anxiety/paranoia, and just generally not feeling in control of the experience any more. Lower temps aren’t so bad, but those high temp convection effects just don’t agree with me.

Conduction/hybrid is a totally different story. When I go low temp on these devices it’s very chill and similar to convection at low temp. When I go to high temp it’s a lovely experience for me, I get minimal mind interference and feel very relaxed. Great body high too, to go along with the nice feeling of relaxation in the mind. I love using these devices at high temp and they’re my favourite method of consumption.

Might be worth looking into as well!

 

[Giftkralle]

Thanks for your message .
At the moment I am using the wolkenkraft äris ultra (similar to the potv lobo). But I have the Bakx on the way .
Looking forward to it.

You could be right with convection.

 

[howie105]

I was smoking weed since I was 18 stopped when I was 23 because I did not like it anymore.

Now that I am 27 I want to go back to vaping. ... Welcome back and hope you enjoy yourself.


I already have a standard vape. ... Which one? There can be massive differences between different vapes, so knowing that can make a big difference in the viability of suggestions.

Yesterday I had like 3 small mini bowls with 0.05 as said, was super chill nothing special. ... I run similar sized loads (.034 g to .05 g) at 180 C to 235 C across three ballers, so the make and model of a vape is a big factor.

Then I decided to get a 4 one and vape it on 200° 0.05 or so not very much like very very little. ... Well, you found a point that you might consider a limit. Perhaps, picking a mid-point (temperature & load size) between the good and problematic hits would be informative.

When I was younger I never had this issues - I could smoke 0.5g in one J and didn't had bad feelings like this. ... Perhaps it's just part of dialing the vape and yourself in together.

When I was younger I never had this issues - I could smoke 0.5g in one J and didn't had bad feelings like this. ... Vaping and smoking are not the same.

 

[PrematureEvaporation]

Thanks for your message .
At the moment I am using the wolkenkraft äris ultra (similar to the potv lobo). But I have the Bakx on the way .
Looking forward to it.

You could be right with convection.

I’m so jealous, I love the look of the bakx. You’ll definitely enjoy that one, probably the best portable conduction vape out there right now.

My main vape is the solo 3 which is similar to the bakx in some ways, just not as powerful but much better battery life in return. It gives me a very nice relaxing high that leaves me satisfied every time

 

[Giftkralle]

Thank you guys when I have time to test it I will type some words here .

 

[Giftkralle]

I was smoking weed since I was 18 stopped when I was 23 because I did not like it anymore.

Now that I am 27 I want to go back to vaping. ... Welcome back and hope you enjoy yourself.


I already have a standard vape. ... Which one? There can be massive differences between different vapes, so knowing that can make a big difference in the viability of suggestions.

Yesterday I had like 3 small mini bowls with 0.05 as said, was super chill nothing special. ... I run similar sized loads (.034 g to .05 g) at 180 C to 235 C across three ballers, so the make and model of a vape is a big factor.

Then I decided to get a 4 one and vape it on 200° 0.05 or so not very much like very very little. ... Well, you found a point that you might consider a limit. Perhaps, picking a mid-point (temperature & load size) between the good and problematic hits would be informative.

When I was younger I never had this issues - I could smoke 0.5g in one J and didn't had bad feelings like this. ... Perhaps it's just part of dialing the vape and yourself in together.

When I was younger I never had this issues - I could smoke 0.5g in one J and didn't had bad feelings like this. ... Vaping and smoking are not the same.

I have the wolkenkraft äris ultra atm. Yes this temperature and load size I can confirm. I normally pack a small bowl and just take 3 or 4 smaller hits. After 30 minutes I will check if it is enough or I need some more. Most of the time it's enough for me being relaxed. I cant get to high or it will just stress me the f out and I am getting anxious / panicky / shaky. Maybe its because getting older but can also be a tolerance thing as I maybe vape once every two weeks because of my job.