UCLA Research

Hey everyone! I'm getting my MBA at UCLA and exploring the possibility of starting a new portable vaporizer company when I graduate. As a result, I'm doing some research on the industry and put together a survey for my New Venture Initiation class. I asked around and was told FC is where it's at, so I thought I would ask for your help. If you have some time I would really appreciate it if you could help me with this survey!

http://ucla.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_23iqwtm0e4jRsRm

I'd be happy to share the results in a few days when the results are in!

Thanks in advance,
Matt
 
uclastudent,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Welcome to FC. This thread should and will be moved from this vape specific category, FYI.

I tried to take your survey, but got an error message at the end.

Sorry, you cannot continue until you correct the following:
Issue 1
Please answer all choices.

I answered all areas, so looks like you have a bug in your survey.

Good luck in your endeavors!

:peace:
 
Stu,

Tim

Active Member
Hah, I was in Westwood today. My girlfriend goes to UCLA, and I'd love to help if you get the survey working!
 
Tim,

IAmKrazy2

Darth Vapor
Please, unless you have a new vape to introduce, please don't post in your area. Your right FC is where it is at, but please read through the forum rules before making any other posts. Good luck to you.
 
IAmKrazy2,

darkrom

Great Scott!
Stu said:
Welcome to FC. This thread should and will be moved from this vape specific category, FYI.

I tried to take your survey, but got an error message at the end.

Sorry, you cannot continue until you correct the following:
Issue 1
Please answer all choices.

I answered all areas, so looks like you have a bug in your survey.

Good luck in your endeavors!

:peace:


I guarantee this has to do with ordering your preferences in a vape. It looks like you choose 1-5 for each issue, but really you need to decide the 1st most important, then 2nd etc, and can only use each once. I did the same.

Anyway I did it. Good luck!
 
darkrom,

weedemon

enthusiast
let us know if the survey is working i will do it :) Love to help a fellow vapor enthusiast welcome!
 
weedemon,

559stonerr

Well-Known Member
just finished the survey! took a mere 3 mins.. glad i could help! have you began thinking of a design of vaporizer?
 
559stonerr,

THC SCIENTIFIC

To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
Your 1st question is stated wrong.

If i answer yes on the first question I am answeing yes to which question?

Medical or recreational?

Coming from someone who owns a company, I would recommend you do something you like. If you take a survey and ask people what they want you will end up with a vaporizer with to many options and not enough functionality. <-- if thats even a word with my dumb ass.
 
THC SCIENTIFIC,
Sorry about categorizing the post incorrectly, I should have realized that.

Thanks for all of the input, we've got 29 completed so far. Again, happy to share the results if you guys are interested.

To answer your questions, no I haven't yet thought of a design I'm still looking at it from a macro perspective. I'll have to head over to the school of engineering to find someone to build it!
 
uclastudent,

SD_haze

Well-Known Member
I have a bunch of friends in UCLA class of 2014 so definitely helped out with the survey :peace:

(I've heard some intense hazing stories recently from there :cool:)
 
SD_haze,
Love it, would be great to meet up with your UCLA friends.

We're up to 55, let's see if we can hit 100!

Thanks again!
 
uclastudent,

zenmasterofzinfandel

Well-Known Member
Ucla alum here :)

Suggestions for your survey, can u change it now??? (start over?).

1. FC has smaller user base than where your true target market is>>> MBA 101, duh!

You need to hit up the MMJ forums/portions of MJ forums, all of them you can find!

2. Decide if you will be shipping internationally, and if it's legal to ship across state borders>>>don't want to be the latest Tommy Chong :D <many legal issues it would be very *wise* to pay $$$$ for consult with competent attorney in this area

3. Get an IP attorney, see Hippie Dickie's thread, how he expects Chinese knock offs to come out shortly. Make a business plan that assumes, knockoffs, which you most likely cannot afford to litigate! Devise a plan of constant innovation so you have a version 2.0 ready for production when the knockoffs come out, then you stay just ahead of the game, like the iPhone, many peeps will then want the 'real deal' latest, best they can have.

4.^ constantly try to improve the product, with newer versions, discontinue the older versions< like cell phones, you need rapid turnover of newer versions.

specific area/questions you could change in the survey to make it better:

5. Reasonable price for "high-end" lol, depends on definition of high-end. Ergo, are $1000+ in ear monitor(IEM) earphones 'high-end' or does the high-end over the ear Auduze LCD2 can's @<$1000 define? Cause high-end Senns used to be HD600/650's until they brought out the $1,400 HD800 ( which along with the TOL Grado and Ultrasone's are still getting price shock resistance, while other HE heads don't think 2x about getting the latest Stax $5k or used Sony R10's still selling for $~5k, or used Senn electrostats HE90/tube amp for $20k)

Broaden your def of HE, start with $200-300 instead of $50 increments, go in 100's with >$500 being top category.

rank the attributes should be able to rate *all* of those 1-5, instead of just one:

my choices for those:

stealth: 5
...just say 5 for all of them, all of them are *very* important to me.

Another way to look at it, is if you prefer small size & portability (not the same issue), what are the things you don't like about or would like improved on the MFLB. Or you you have another fav vap, what are the things you'd like to see improved on that to make it more desirable.

You will find two camps of portable users, those that prefer small size portabilility and those who want performance and are willing to accept larger/heavier units to get that...kind of like headphone/IEM users.

You can't make anything smaller than the MFLB, but just how much bigger is acceptable? iOlite clone with Li-Poly is slim enough, small enough for most> lacks in some performance parameters < if you could get the kind of performance that Hippie Dickie's larger design has, in a smaller package, you'd have a winner, but you'd have to invest $$$ to get reduced size components of adequate level of performance<<<always a moving target, HD thinks he's got the smallest/powerful enough design components he could think of<<<find a way to improve on his design/better/smaller components, you'd have a winner

For instance, Hippie Dickie's design is like M$, Balmer...can't think out of the box (he's got an EE degree, but is anti-Apple...same really :p ) stubborn designer syndrome. It's got a too large,*separate* battery pack. Battery pack should be integral or easily mated/detachable design. MFLB is too crude, something just a little larger (when battery tech allows, maybe it does *now*). From a design perspective, I highly recommend reading HD's thread. Decide what voltage & current demands you design will need> make more than one design(size/weight) based on different battery/capacity tech

I sent Hippie Dickie to the RC forums way back in 2006/7 when he was still pondering his design, as those have the users where they need very high current delivery, very fast. But battery design/tech is in constant flux, notice all Apple Mac portables use specially shaped Li-Poly, non-removable batteries to get max capacity
over conventional cylindrical 18650 size batteries.

go over to candlepowerforums, look up user AW, located in Hong Kong, check out threads there on IMR battery chemistry. (be advised, while there are some obvious MJ users on CPF, in the closet, a large proportion of CPF users are in law enforcement/conservative/anti-drug <the gun totting female adm/owner there is married to a cop!)

http://www.lighthound.com/AW-IMR18650-1600mAh-LiMN-rechargeable-lithium-battery_p_2797.html

While AW's standard Li-Ion's (Panasonic in the 2900ma are said to be *safer* design/chemistry)18650 have highest capacity& good voltage under load (current capability in discharge), CPF users say the much lower capacity IMR chemistry for same sizes, provide the absolute max fast current delivery you might find useful in a small portable vap that is in the MFLB size???
 
zenmasterofzinfandel,
Wow, thanks for the long response! I'm digesting everything you talked about...really appreciate the advice!
 
uclastudent,

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
... Devise a plan of constant innovation so you have a version 2.0 ready for production when the knockoffs come out, then you stay just ahead of the game, like the iPhone, many peeps will then want the 'real deal' latest, best they can have...

This is really tough to do well. An alternative is to establish the brand (think Apple or Amazon) which makes your company impervious to cloning. If someone is only attracted by price they wouldn't be your customer anyway -- the clone is providing free advertising for the technology -- the quality of your company and product vision will ensure you will thrive.

when battery tech allows, maybe it does *now*

true there is a lot of thrash in battery tech -- i'm not seeing anything better than LiFePO4 (A123Systems). One deciding factor for my choice is the much longer lifetime of the batteries -- 10x to 30x the number of recharge cycles over other LiIon chemistries. But it only holds 2200mAh -- thus the larger format to get enough sessions per charge.
 
Hippie Dickie,
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