Trying to get back into vaping, help a brotha out

[Hippie Dickie]

(not to derail this thread, but ...). Still working on the design for the leather case - iteration eleventy, seems like - ordered enough leather to make 5 more prototypes. Starting to write a patent application - been a while since i've done that.

 

[max]

so, i wonder if the temp really does drop that much in the EVO.

Good question, since heat retention is a major design feature.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

Good question, since heat retention is a major design feature.

i have a major problem with the term "heat retention" ... this indicates that the heat is stored and slowly released and that is not happening ... the EVO has dynamic heater response, that is, it detects that the heat is dissipating and runs the heater harder to overcome the heat loss.

a hot red brick has "heat retention". borosilicate glass does not. my glassware goes from 400°F to ambient in 2 minutes.

 

[Negativebeef]

What it do FC, been lurkin here for awhile. But you all know your stuff and its about damn time I took advantage of that haha.

I'm trying to get healthy this year, and one of those things will involve eliminating smoking. I'm an MMJ patient so I definitely NEED to get my medicine in my system somehow. Before this year I've used only two vapes, the Volcano and Da Buddha. The Volcano was AWESOME, but I live by myself and I don't have the money to acquire one at this time. Da Buddha was very nice, and I still get to use my friend's from time to time. However I find that after an initial session it doesn't necessarily get me as medicated as I'd like in the following sessions. This could just be my higher tolerance, medicating too much in one day, etc. But overall, I like it.

Now for christmas a good friend of mine got me the T-Vape, since that person knew I'd like to medicate away from my home. After some use I've determined my particular unit runs hot, and its way too harsh for me, even at the lowest setting (it almost combusts my medicine). So needless to say I'm very skeptical about portable units now.

I spend a lot of money on medicine each month already, so I'm trying to acquire a vape that will help my budget by being a solid investment that I can use for years to come. My funds cap off for this new device around $300. I don't have the connections or money to purchase and try new vaporizers like some people on here, so this purchase needs to be a surefire hit. After some extensive research I believe I can obtain the right tool for me for this price or lower.

In my initial research I've determined that I might prefer ceramic heating element style vapes (like the 7th floor products) since they seem the best maintenance-wise. More electronics to me means more potential problems, but I've only used 3 vapes before so I could be wrong. I currently don't have a preference between plug-in and portable units, I just want the one that will treat me well for years. I don't like using water pipes in conjunction with vapes (too cumbersome for my personal preference). I would prefer something that is easy to clean as well, so something like the pax might not be good for me.

Sorry for ranting but I'd thought I'd give out as much info as I could. Thanks again FC you guys are awesome and I appreciate all input I receive.

Definitely give the Arizer Solo a try. I even prefer this vape over my Volcano or Extreme Q. It heats up fast and is not hassle to use. The only that sucks about it is that you can't charge the battery and vape at the same time.

The Da Vinci is another good portable. This one you actually CAN charge and vape at the same time.

 

[4daLo]

Heyo

Thanks for all the replies people...well the ones that relate to my question haha

I've been using my friends Da Buddha this week, and I do really enjoy it even though it uses a whip.

I've DEFINITELY narrowed my decision to the E-nano and one of the 7th floor models (SSV/DBV/LSV)

They're all the same price from what I can find, with the SSV being a little more expensive, so price isn't going to be a deciding factor between these models. I honestly don't know which one I'm going to choose.

I've used DBV so I know how that one and the SSV are going to work, so the comfort factor is there with these models since I know exactly what to expect. The LSV is similar, but the lack of the whip and usage of a glass stem intrigues me, but it might be for better or worse.

The e-nano, while it looks awesome, is the hardest for me to pull the trigger on. Yes I've read RAVE reviews about it on here, but I've never used a log vape before, so I don't know what to expect. Plus remember I'm NOT going to be using any of these with additional attachments/water pipes. Is the e-nano worth it even though I'm going to just be using the stock glass stem with it? Or in that case would I be better off with using the whip-based SSV or DBV? Obviously efficiency is important to me, but the cooling of the vapor is a huge plus too (I don't want the short vapor path of the e-nano to bother my throat, but as mentioned I don't know what to expect and it could be plenty fine)

Thanks again FC

 

[vorrange]

Without attachments i would still use the nano for the efficiency and flavor alone. PLus it's tiny compared to the SSV and no whip means one less thing to clean.

The nano allows for big hits if you so choose. The SSV allows for bigger hits but you won't have such small hits with the same density as you do in the nano.

If you don't want to use with a bong i'd bypass the LSV.

Between SSV and Nano, the Nano is more versatile IMO and a better overall buy.

About the heat on the throat, unless you have a sensitive throat i believe it will be fine.

 

[4daLo]

Without attachments i would still use the nano for the efficiency and flavor alone. PLus it's tiny compared to the SSV and no whip means one less thing to clean.

The nano allows for big hits if you so choose. The SSV allows for bigger hits but you won't have such small hits with the same density as you do in the nano.

If you don't want to use with a bong i'd bypass the LSV.

Between SSV and Nano, the Nano is more versatile IMO and a better overall buy.

About the heat on the throat, unless you have a sensitive throat i believe it will be fine.

I'm thinking I should get the nano now...

Is there anything I should order with it? If i use the FC discount code it includes an upgraded glass stem right?

 

[Caligula]

Yes 5% off and an upgraded stem. Maybe order some xtra screens and a spare stem if you want but not much else is needed that doesnt come with the nano.

 

[max]

i have a major problem with the term "heat retention" ... this indicates that the heat is stored and slowly released and that is not happening ... the EVO has dynamic heater response, that is, it detects that the heat is dissipating and runs the heater harder to overcome the heat loss.

a hot red brick has "heat retention". borosilicate glass does not. my glassware goes from 400°F to ambient in 2 minutes.

The EVO does have heat retention. The insulator around the glass provides a heat exchanger effect.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

The EVO does have heat retention. The insulator around the glass provides a heat exchanger effect.

Okay, yes, i agree it does. But with a dynamic heater it doesn't need it.

 

[Stu]

Okay, yes, i agree it does. But with a dynamic heater it doesn't need it.

Some people have reported that they enjoy unplugging the Evo for a "pass around the couch" session, so there is some need for it.

 

[tranceporter]

I have heard great things about the EV but my one experience with a log vape left me very underwhelmed. The LSV is versatile, very reliable, and packs a big punch. I always recommend it when someone inquires about it.

 

[vorrange]

Not all log vapes are equal Dr Piff. The HI runs hotter than every other typical log vape, and the Nano has a similar element to the LSV and the ability to change temps without needing an extra VVPS, like the LSV as well.

 

[clouded vision]

Both my logs can milk a tube faster and thicker than my LSV ever could but I also run them hot with a vvps. In fact both milk faster than my VXC does, but I also don't push the temperatures for fear of burning it out. The VXC is the best mix of both super thick clouds and flavor IMO but my logs produce vapor quicker (probably because you can get the herb closer to the heater)

 

[max]

Okay, yes, i agree it does. But with a dynamic heater it doesn't need it.

Well the EVO has a very high quality heater, but I'm not sure I agree that any vape heater alone can maintain a good vaping temp with the huge draw you can get with this model. According to sm55 the EVO air flow, which isn't 'straight on', also serves to attain more efficient heating. At any rate, the system refuses to be 'outhit' and for a big hitter, that's a big achievement.

the Nano has a similar element to the LSV

I'd have to see a side by side comparison (at a minimum) to accept that Epicvape uses an element as high in quality as 7th Floor does. Most ceramic heaters used in vapes are considerably less expensive.

Both my logs can milk a tube faster and thicker than my LSV ever could but I also run them hot with a vvps.

Higher temps and a higher vapor/air ratio (strong point with this design) definitely make for richer vapor.

 

[Hippie Dickie]

Well the EVO has a very high quality heater, but I'm not sure I agree that any vape heater alone can maintain a good vaping temp with the huge draw you can get with this model.

it's just physics ... given enough power this is very easy to do. my vape at 72 watts increases temp during a toke. thin vapor if i draw super hard and fast - the air doesn't have enough time to absorb the heat & too large of an air to cannabinoids ratio - but the temp of the heater does not drop from the cooling effect of the air flow.

 

[4daLo]

Alright so I was planning on ordering the E-nano today, but my LHS is doing a sale on all vapes and vape accessories till the end of January. They don't have LSV's or E-nano's, but they do have Volcanos, SSVs, and DBVs. Now even with the sale, the Volcano is still way out of my price range, so that's not an option. However the SSV is now gonna be 180 out the door. Should I get the SSV? I like it way better than DBV's and I'm also able to get it now. The e-nano with discount from their site will be barely more expensive, so I view them as virtually the same price now. So if I ordered the e-nano, I'd have to wait for it. Still, my only concern with the e-nano is the fact that the tube is so short, which makes me weary of vapor heat. I know for a fact that vapor out of a SSV whip is gonna be cool, which makes me inclined to get that. ugh decision ishooz....

 

[RUDE BOY]

You really can't go wrong with any of the Vapes you've mentioned. If you like the SSV go for it.

 

[grokit]

I was going to sell one of my ssv's, because I have other options for flowers now. But instead, I made one an aromatherapy device/back-up vape, and the other got the flavor oil kit so is dedicated to dabbing now.

I've had them both for many years and I highly recommend them!
They are very versatile, extremely well made, and always ready to go like a log.
I am considering selling my lsv but that's hard to do too.