TinyMight vs Tetra P80

[Shit Snacks]

Hahahaha I've been down that path before! It doesn't end well for my bank account!

I can't catch VAS again, or there may be divorce papers that come with that P80! I can see my wife now ->

Haha I know some people have other responsibilities, and these aren't exactly cheap items, but seriously these are two vapes that don't even feel like VAS buys for me somehow, on top of the dozens I own... Just had a couple bowls of nice Birthday Cake herbs in my Tetra P80 using the mini j hook, which is how I am mostly using my Tinymight, yeah taste and effects are pretty spectacular even below 400F with nice thick clouds end thorough extraction without stirring... Not to tempt you or anything haha TM & TP80 actually make such a great pair is the end result of this thread I say!

 

[tokenknifeguy]

Thanks for the suggestion of the Splinter, but I already have the Z and v2. I like them but find the tetrax to be better. However if there is some firmware that works with the splinters, I'll be willing to try them out. Or does anyone know if the tetrax firmware would work w/ the splinters?

Also I don't know if anyone has noticed this yet, but shit snacks is the true one hero that we all never knew that we needed.

 

[bossman]

Thanks for the suggestion of the Splinter, but I already have the Z and v2. I like them but find the tetrax to be better. However if there is some firmware that works with the splinters, I'll be willing to try them out. Or does anyone know if the tetrax firmware would work w/ the splinters?

I did see one Splinter or Z user say they were having better results since putting the Tubo firmware on their mod. I think that's bullshit though if we're comparing it to myevic or Arctic Fox. Not saying that person didn't have improved performance, just that it likely had more to do with settings than any inherent firmware advantage.

What mod are your Z and V2 on now? What cells are in each? My Tubo X was way less consistent and more hotspot-prone than any of my Splinters and with the benefit of hindsight I think maybe the mod and battery combo had more to do with the fine tuning potential than the firmware.

I'd recommend the venerable Wismec RX Gen3 Dual for one or both of your Splinters and then I'd recommend buying the next DNA mod deal that gets shared on the various 510 threads here. My V2s and my V1 are really dialed with a few simple myevic settings you can make right from the mod.

I'd also recommend the LG HG2 cells from Liion Wholesale. The plastic cases are worse than the ones from Illumn but the cells seem fresher to me and every mod I have loves them for quick heatup and minimal sag. I rate them tops of the three I've tried with the Sony VTC5A second and the Samsung 30Q third. I only have three 30Qs left now and I keep them in an induction heater where they can't annoy me. Of course this is super anecdotal and might be more to do with how worn down the 30Qs are.

 

[GoldenBud]

I did see one Splinter or Z user say they were having better results since putting the Tubo firmware on their mod. I think that's bullshit though if we're comparing it to myevic or Arctic Fox. Not saying that person didn't have improved performance, just that it likely had more to do with settings than any inherent firmware advantage.

What mod are your Z and V2 on now? What cells are in each? My Tubo X was way less consistent and more hotspot-prone than any of my Splinters and with the benefit of hindsight I think maybe the mod and battery combo had more to do with the fine tuning potential than the firmware.

I'd recommend the venerable Wismec RX Gen3 Dual for one or both of your Splinters and then I'd recommend buying the next DNA mod deal that gets shared on the various 510 threads here. My V2s and my V1 are really dialed with a few simple myevic settings you can make right from the mod.

I'd also recommend the LG HG2 cells from Liion Wholesale. The plastic cases are worse than the ones from Illumn but the cells seem fresher to me and every mod I have loves them for quick heatup and minimal sag. I rate them tops of the three I've tried with the Sony VTC5A second and the Samsung 30Q third. I only have three 30Qs left now and I keep them in an induction heater where they can't annoy me. Of course this is super anecdotal and might be more to do with how worn down the 30Qs are.

How often did you stir with that Tubo? AFAIK The TuboX/Z both need like 1-2 stirs per bowl ..
I never tried tubox just tubo evic, and a Z on DNA mod. I think the I had to stir the Z twice for getting browner ABV, it was hard for me to change the color of that herb with the Z, massive hits tho (On 50W)

 

[tokenknifeguy]

I have the tetrax and I don't have to stir with it. Or with my Z either. The top of the basket will be darker compared to underneath it, but I find that I can just keep hitting it and eventually the bottom will be very dark as well. The hit flavor starts to suffer but I found that if I were to stir it, I still only get a hit or two so I just don't even bother stirring. You have to get the temps and wattage honed in right.

Bossman......I a a hcigar dna75 box mod, a joytech vtc dual (worst of the bunch and had problems with tetra firmware), and just got a reuleaux rx2/3 and run it on 2 batteries and since had no problems with the tetrax. My batteries are married and I have 3 different types, Sony VTC 5, Sony VTC 6, and Samsung 30q. Also you saying the arctic fox firmware works with the splinters? I only use the splinter in wattage mode on my dna mod and usually run it from 35-45w depending on several factors but usually around 35 once the heater is nice and warm.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks for the suggestion of the Splinter, but I already have the Z and v2. I like them but find the tetrax to be better. However if there is some firmware that works with the splinters, I'll be willing to try them out. Or does anyone know if the tetrax firmware would work w/ the splinters?

Also I don't know if anyone has noticed this yet, but shit snacks is the true one hero that we all never knew that we needed.

Haha you flatter me so!

Yes you can absolutely use the tubo firmware with your splinter, my SplinterV2 is doing great setup with TCR on my P80 using ArcticFox, but there's no reason you can't load to bow and use the same settings to get going with temp control. I also love the tubo firmware and it's nice to stick with what you're used to, it will work on a G3D & P80 now too! Check out the updated supported mod list from the threads, you can also use a splinter in temp control with your DNA mod of course.

I don't really need to stir my V2 with the TCR setup, using 300F to 420F, nor do I really need to stir my custom Z on bronze RX DNA250 using 320F to 445F. My other custom Z is on a G3D just using wattage with SurMyEvic mostly through water bowls that I kill quick so don't bother stirring there either...

And @bossman the Tetra heater is definitely going to provide a more even extraction than the original Tubo heater in my experience. Both my Dual and TP80 have a Tetra and the experience is very consistent actually... I also think you should give one a try that is the all-in-one unit, so it is all configured for you, I'm sure you can get things going well with an X too, I'm just saying if you want the best possible experience it would be better to get the complete unit. Sure it's possible it's not for you, but I think you could get into it if you had the right set-up!

There are some universal things, but often stirring can be specific to individual users, varying styles and technique along with priorities... A vape does not always needs stirring for everyone (and I even used to be a strong advocate for it with all on demand pure convection vaping)

 

[GoldenBud]

I have the tetrax and I don't have to stir with it. Or with my Z either. The top of the basket will be darker compared to underneath it, but I find that I can just keep hitting it and eventually the bottom will be very dark as well. The hit flavor starts to suffer but I found that if I were to stir it, I still only get a hit or two so I just don't even bother stirring. You have to get the temps and wattage honed in right.

Bossman......I a a hcigar dna75 box mod, a joytech vtc dual (worst of the bunch and had problems with tetra firmware), and just got a reuleaux rx2/3 and run it on 2 batteries and since had no problems with the tetrax. My batteries are married and I have 3 different types, Sony VTC 5, Sony VTC 6, and Samsung 30q. Also you saying the arctic fox firmware works with the splinters? I only use the splinter in wattage mode on my dna mod and usually run it from 35-45w depending on several factors but usually around 35 once the heater is nice and warm.

You're an hero too. Tetrax, Z, ELEV8R.. Tubo.. haha. I recommend that you check the IMP ... with tubo/arctic fox firmware it is really good. abit pricey imo, wait for the 20.4 ... hehehe

 

[dzoinp]

Who likes photos?

 

[Brewervapesalot]

Is it me, or is there a lack of comparisons of these two beasts in this thread?

Question, if I own a Tiny Might, what void does the Tetra p80 fill?

What are the actual differences in regard to performance and usability?

Can someone succinctly explain the easiest ways to use the Tetra p80 (for those of us that dont use mod style vapes and dont know anything about mods or the various adjustments you can make/tinker with)?

 

[oddjobold]

I think i have decided on the tinymight. I will tell you the reasons why. Those that own both can tell me if i am making the right choice.

1) Size. Tinymight looks pocket sized to me. I am after a on the go vape, as i sold the FW6 (did not like it). P80 is not much bigger, but true portability is a fine margin. P80 to me is more of a home vape. I already have a home vape the splinter Z which does not get that much use. Its hard for me to vape at home.

2) Sturdyness. Tinymight looks like its built stronger. The p80 is all wood and glass, might get crushed in your pocket.

3) Cooling unit. Usually have some type of filtration going on with my 18mm stems. Glass beads, hemp fiber. So this appeals. Can do this with p80 stems as well, but like the idea of the purpose built cooling unit.

4) Stems held with an o-ring. Like this feature on other vapes. Unit can be carried with stem in situ making it more portable.

From what i read performance is very similar.

I dont own either, but would you agree the tinymight is better suited for me?

 

[Shit Snacks]

Is it me, or is there a lack of comparisons of these two beasts in this thread?

Question, if I own a Tiny Might, what void does the Tetra p80 fill?

What are the actual differences in regard to performance and usability?

Can someone succinctly explain the easiest ways to use the Tetra p80 (for those of us that dont use mod style vapes and dont know anything about mods or the various adjustments you can make/tinker with)?

Do you know anything about the Tubo Evic? That is the original so that thread is much more extensive than the Tetra thread honestly and it applies pretty well. That is also a factor in that they have a long-standing reputation of top tier vapes and top-level customer service.

You do not need to know anything about mods, there is nothing to adjust or tinker with first, it works out of the box. You load the stem in the basket screen, turn the unit upside down to insert stem, hold down the trigger and rip it, let go to clear... It's all digital so you can set specific temperature, and if you tap the trigger twice you can cruise like session style...

Sure there is a warm-up option that is like automatic preheat, and you can turn the Eco on for more efficient battery life when cruising, while there is even a temp step cruise that will automatically increase as you go without you pushing anything... These are all extremely easy to set up and I bet you could have Lamart set whatever things you want before shipping it to you if you really don't want to fiddle around with a menu that is honestly super easy to navigate...

So this digital interface is a different experience (with other benefits like battery monitoring etc), while the heater is also very different, still effective pure convection on demand, but the signature is slightly different (as it is with RBT vapes). Then there is the stems, 18.8mm standard size meaning there are endless options, meanwhile lamart sells so many accessories of their own. Then there is all the custom work, exotic woods and fancy stems (they even have a power adapter to plug it in without batteries needed) plus whips and so much more.

Yes I will tell you that both have amazing flavor, amazing power and efficiency, great regulation and other features. However they still offer different experiences, in more ways than I have listed here, many that should be quite obvious really. There are so many variables in each vape, stands to reason they would not create the exact same vapor, which is true of most everyone of my vapes from different manufacturers with different technology despite their various similarities...

Hope this helps you more?

I think i have decided on the tinymight. I will tell you the reasons why. Those that own both can tell me if i am making the right choice.

1) Size. Tinymight looks pocket sized to me. I am after a on the go vape, as i sold the FW6 (did not like it). P80 is not much bigger, but true portability is a fine margin. P80 to me is more of a home vape. I already have a home vape the splinter Z which does not get that much use. Its hard for me to vape at home.

2) Sturdyness. Tinymight looks like its built stronger. The p80 is all wood and glass, might get crushed in your pocket.

3) Cooling unit. Usually have some type of filtration going on with my 18mm stems. Glass beads, hemp fiber. So this appeals. Can do this with p80 stems as well, but like the idea of the purpose built cooling unit.

4) Stems held with an o-ring. Like this feature on other vapes. Unit can be carried with stem in situ making it more portable.

From what i read performance is very similar.

I dont own either, but would you agree the tinymight is better suited for me?

Yup, sounds like you made a well-informed decision! I just would never say that the Tetra could get crushed in your pocket? lol it is much more durable than that! Performance is different, but similarly effective and pure is all.

 

[GoldenBud]

Is it me, or is there a lack of comparisons of these two beasts in this thread?

Question, if I own a Tiny Might, what void does the Tetra p80 fill?

What are the actual differences in regard to performance and usability?

Can someone succinctly explain the easiest ways to use the Tetra p80 (for those of us that dont use mod style vapes and dont know anything about mods or the various adjustments you can make/tinker with)?

The easiest way of using Tetra P80 is just using it as with wttage mod. starting from around 30W. It can work that way, BUT you still need to check resistance from time to time, making sure the auto-fire (cruise mode) is not over 1 minute or so. either way you need to invest a little bit time learning what is resistance and simple things about mods.

@oddjobold i agree with you. TP80 isn't too portable, can be easily broken. it is like portable-desktop device in many ways.

I never seen a TinyMight video in action so can't tell about performance, really would like to see tho.

 

[bossman]

I dont own either, but would you agree the tinymight is better suited for me?

That Nub cooling stem isn't really inserted into the P80 anything like the straight stem of the Tinymight. Lamart vapes have a ground glass joint like the Splinter and Splinter Z; if you turn them upside down the stem will pretty much fall out.
I've only owned a Tubo X like I said but to me that's the portability question answered pretty unequivocally.

How often did you stir with that Tubo? AFAIK The TuboX/Z both need like 1-2 stirs per bowl ..
I never tried tubox just tubo evic, and a Z on DNA mod. I think the I had to stir the Z twice for getting browner ABV, it was hard for me to change the color of that herb with the Z, massive hits tho (On 50W)

Yeah, I'm partial to checking all the time anyway but will finger stir once and grab a tool for one proper stir maybe. It's all pretty optional since I have DNA250C mods for most Splinters and tend to step up through lower temps. These days I keep some Zs overdriven so I know which one to reach for when rapid extraction is the preference.

I have the tetrax and I don't have to stir with it. Or with my Z either. The top of the basket will be darker compared to underneath it, but I find that I can just keep hitting it and eventually the bottom will be very dark as well. The hit flavor starts to suffer but I found that if I were to stir it, I still only get a hit or two so I just don't even bother stirring. You have to get the temps and wattage honed in right.

Bossman......I a a hcigar dna75 box mod, a joytech vtc dual (worst of the bunch and had problems with tetra firmware), and just got a reuleaux rx2/3 and run it on 2 batteries and since had no problems with the tetrax. My batteries are married and I have 3 different types, Sony VTC 5, Sony VTC 6, and Samsung 30q. Also you saying the arctic fox firmware works with the splinters? I only use the splinter in wattage mode on my dna mod and usually run it from 35-45w depending on several factors but usually around 35 once the heater is nice and warm.

Yes, you could run the Z on the rx with Arctic Fox. I'd keep it on the DNA and install the Splinter Z ecigprofiles using escribe and start getting a feel for TC.
https://forum.evolvapor.com/files/file/567-fcshare/

Haha you flatter me so!

Yes you can absolutely use the tubo firmware with your splinter, my SplinterV2 is doing great setup with TCR on my P80 using ArcticFox, but there's no reason you can't load to bow and use the same settings to get going with temp control. I also love the tubo firmware and it's nice to stick with what you're used to, it will work on a G3D & P80 now too! Check out the updated supported mod list from the threads, you can also use a splinter in temp control with your DNA mod of course.

I don't really need to stir my V2 with the TCR setup, using 300F to 420F, nor do I really need to stir my custom Z on bronze RX DNA250 using 320F to 445F. My other custom Z is on a G3D just using wattage with SurMyEvic mostly through water bowls that I kill quick so don't bother stirring there either...

And @bossman the Tetra heater is definitely going to provide a more even extraction than the original Tubo heater in my experience. Both my Dual and TP80 have a Tetra and the experience is very consistent actually... I also think you should give one a try that is the all-in-one unit, so it is all configured for you, I'm sure you can get things going well with an X too, I'm just saying if you want the best possible experience it would be better to get the complete unit. Sure it's possible it's not for you, but I think you could get into it if you had the right set-up!

There are some universal things, but often stirring can be specific to individual users, varying styles and technique along with priorities... A vape does not always needs stirring for everyone (and I even used to be a strong advocate for it with all on demand pure convection vaping)

I honestly think I'm too much of a mod snob to pay $225 with no stems or whatever they cost. I have a $27 black Sinuous P80 on the way for no real reason beyond the price. I'm curious if it'll make it into the rotation with a 'V1/V2 or if the battery life or even performance will annoy me compared to the rxg3d.

 

[im not a robot]

However they still offer different experiences, in more ways than I have listed here

thank you for your patience & generosity answering these queries, i have one more:
does anyone of these seem more suited for micro(!)dosing than the other? i recently got my first vapcap m, and am really impressed with its performance when loading mere whiffs of herbs. and i mean minuscule amounts, i am the lightweight of lightweights. i would however really like to be able to pair this with temperature control. i have never used a stem-based vape, and can only imagine how using them actually works (no need to explain this now), but i gathered from the threads that the tinymight allows for a flexible chamber size (but how small can you go?) and the tubo / p80 uses basket screens that you could use for microdosing? is any of these vapes more capable at extracting vapor from small amounts? or merely easier to use? thanks!

 

[Alex3oe]

The easiest way of using Tetra P80 is just using it as with wttage mod.

I have to disagree here
TCR works so well with Ralphs devices and firmware, it beats wattage by miles imho. Set temperature --> three clicks, wait until preheat switches to cruise and go. You have a stable temperature fitting your needs, which easily can be adjusted.

And as you wrote, wattage and cruise mode is allways potentially dangerous.

 

[GoldenBud]

I have to disagree here
TCR works so well with Ralphs devices and firmware, it beats wattage by miles imho. Set temperature --> three clicks, wait until preheat switches to cruise and go. You have a stable temperature fitting your needs, which easily can be adjusted.

And as you wrote, wattage and cruise mode is allways potentially dangerous.

Sorry I forgot that Ralph locks the device's resistance in the new TP80! the user won't have to check it from time to time....
Yea, TCR will be the best way to use it anyway probably. but I suggest before buying to learn some minimal information about mods etc'. I wouldn't recommend using this device without knowing basic terms on mods etc'.

 

[Alex3oe]

You're absolutely right, this would be wise in any way

But the P80 is usable and works great out of the box without the need of any adjustments afaik. I only have the two Xs, and may the firmware be overwhelming in the first, even here you only have to adjust the ohms and maybe finetune em a bit as described in the manual.

One may like the simplicity of a wheel for adjusting temperature, another prefers a display with more informations, as cell power eg, and lots of potential possibilities like warmup - cruise, setting automated temp steps and near endless stuff

 

[GoldenBud]

thank you for your patience & generosity answering these queries, i have one more:
does anyone of these seem more suited for micro(!)dosing than the other? i recently got my first vapcap m, and am really impressed with its performance when loading mere whiffs of herbs. and i mean minuscule amounts, i am the lightweight of lightweights. i would however really like to be able to pair this with temperature control. i have never used a stem-based vape, and can only imagine how using them actually works (no need to explain this now), but i gathered from the threads that the tinymight allows for a flexible chamber size (but how small can you go?) and the tubo / p80 uses basket screens that you could use for microdosing? is any of these vapes more capable at extracting vapor from small amounts? or merely easier to use? thanks!

You can use the TP80 or any other HSA heater device for microdosing. I didn't try 0.04g, but 0.08g works great. you almost don't need to stir these amount.

 

[im not a robot]

You can use the TP80 or any other HSA heater device for microdosing

thanks. a hsa heater device is a stem-vape? so you are saying when it comes to microdosing there is no difference between tinymight or tetra p80 (or any other vape with a hsa heater?)

 

[david8613]

Who likes photos?

that's pretty neat, who makes that case for the p80? is that splinter inside?

 

[GoldenBud]

thanks. a hsa heater device is a stem-vape? so you are saying when it comes to microdosing there is no difference between tinymight or tetra p80 (or any other vape with a hsa heater?)

high surface area heater, heater with a "volume". for example not just 1 coil inside a heater, Few coils/mesh/big heater ... most of them have the ability to replace stems and have variety of stems, yep
The list of HSA devices is : Tubox/Tetrax/TP80/Splinter / Splinter Z/ Alan's 510/ Lil bud / Timber and so on... also StemPod can be customized with HSA

@david8613 Lamart (lamart.ch) makes them

 

[dzoinp]

who makes that case for the p80

Ralph from Lamart shop! It's the Tetra P80

 

[im not a robot]

thanks @GoldenBud, still learning a lot here

 

[stickstones]

Who likes photos?

That TM short stem looks like a game changer!

 

[Shit Snacks]

thank you for your patience & generosity answering these queries, i have one more:
does anyone of these seem more suited for micro(!)dosing than the other? i recently got my first vapcap m, and am really impressed with its performance when loading mere whiffs of herbs. and i mean minuscule amounts, i am the lightweight of lightweights. i would however really like to be able to pair this with temperature control. i have never used a stem-based vape, and can only imagine how using them actually works (no need to explain this now), but i gathered from the threads that the tinymight allows for a flexible chamber size (but how small can you go?) and the tubo / p80 uses basket screens that you could use for microdosing? is any of these vapes more capable at extracting vapor from small amounts? or merely easier to use? thanks!

Yes both can microdose, stem based vapes are often capable of a variety of load sizes, meanwhile on demand pure convection means you can load any amount and just take a couple hits, then return to the bowl whenever you want. This works better than the on demand VapCap, preserving flavor hit to hit a bit more, thanks to the pure convection.

Really you just will need to load enough to cover the screen, but you might finish that load very fast. Filling a basket usually means more hits more clouds thicker vapor stronger taste etc and it does not really hurt you efficiency at all (however very large bowls could and may need to be stirred for full extraction). VapCap is unique bc the bowl size is always tiny even filled full, this is going to be a different experience, though similarly efficient (just different, different vapor signature, different high, different type of extraction)

that's pretty neat, who makes that case for the p80? is that splinter inside?

Haha that is an entire vape, built around the P80, like the Tubo Evic before it, this is the new Tetra P80 by lamart. Totally different from Splinter really, I described differences between them earlier in this thread actually!

high surface area heater, heater with a "volume". for example not just 1 coil inside a heater, Few coils/mesh/big heater ... most of them have the ability to replace stems and have variety of stems, yep
The list of HSA devices is : Tubox/Tetrax/TP80/Splinter / Splinter Z/ Alan's 510/ Lil bud / Timber and so on... also StemPod can be customized with HSA

Actually the term HSA heater was first coined here specifically for the RBT vapes, so it is typically how we describe a steel mesh heater. Tubo/Tetra does not use steel mesh, though it does have high surface area as does Tinymight...