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fogvalley

Dark vaper
Ya I saw one that was closed and was reading it and no clue why they did from the content.
 
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momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
If people keep answering threads that are old an not read anymore doesn't that mean people keep reading them?
Yes, but since the OP has no further interest or has purchased the item, it makes the thread pointless.

Now... before you say 'we were talking about important information about the vape,' any discussion about the specific vapes (or in this case their batteries) can be further discussed in the vape specific thread if you feel there is important information about the vape that needs discussing. The thread mentioned had turned into a battery discussion.
 

Vapor King

Well-Known Member
Sorry Guys!!! That is just plain SILLY :rofl:

2 more questions/points....

1. As stated...if its still being posted to...it's relevant topic of conversation...shouldn't it stay open?? So just because the OP is done with the topic....we close it....the hell with everyone else??

2. Who cares how active a topic is....why would any topic be closed for reply but still viewable....if we are done with it...DELETE IT....reduce clutter

So here is another instance of the structure and the way the day to day is handle that adds to clutter of this forum. So now if someone has additional questions about the topic....we need to add yet another forum topic that has been already opened but was closed. If you think is went off topic...moderate it back on topic


If we are going to be content police and close it because someone thinks it's off topic...why don't we try deleting anytime someone asks a question in one of the vape specific threads that has been asked 3 times a day.....everyday....once again reduce clutter.


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vapebuddy13

Your resident Super Hero
Well vape specific threads are different, because there is always discussion to be had about a vape in general which can encompass a whole lot of subtopics. While I think it would make sense to keep other threads open I don't see a problem with closing. If they were to delete it to "reduce clutter" it deletes info that others may find helpful that they can easily find using the search feature.
Keeping everything open and moderating every off topic posts in them would take a lot I would think.

Plus things change, what has been asked on page 75 of the Pax thread may have an answer that differs if it were to be asked again on whatever the current page is. From what I understand mods don't get paid so everything they do now is more than they need to be doing so keeping track of hundreds of random threads to make sure they stay on topic would be a bit hectic imo
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
All it takes is one person to answer a thread that is a year old and dormant to get a discussion going again, even when the OP is long gone. I've seen it happen multiple times. Then you end up with some good content that needs to be moved to the model specific thread, just like the comments in your linked thread about battery differences between the two units.

The format and structure of this forum has been shaped through the years and may not make sense to newcomers, but has been thought through and works for the amount of staff we have.

But this is starting to sounds like a mod post and I'm not a mod anymore...
 
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max

Out to lunch
All it takes is one person to answer a thread that is a year old and dormant to get a discussion going again, even when the OP is long gone. I've seen it happen multiple times. Then you end up with some good content that needs to be moved to the model specific thread
Exactly. Many Ask FC threads, if left open, become not only chatty off topic threads, but you also get some good info in them that many people miss because it's posted in an Ask FC thread instead of the vape thread. The same applies (and even more of a maintenance headache for us) to the popular suggestion of sub topics in vape threads.

Ask FC threads are left open if the topic is of general interest. 'What should I buy' threads are closed when the OP gets sufficient info or they're forgotten/abandoned.

The format and structure of this forum has been shaped through the years and may not make sense to newcomers, but has been thought through and works for the amount of staff we have.
Yes, we seem to get quite a lot of advice from new members on how to run a forum the 'right way'. But we not only have 7 years of FC experience to judge by, some of us have staff experience on other forums as well. FC is not a finished product, as far as the format, but we won't ever be what EVERYONE wants. The changes we do make will be carefully considered, and they'll be made with management needs in mind, as well as what members want.

The forum can't be just 'ask us what you want as far as content and format and we'll provide'. We have to be able to manage it as well. I'm sure some have all the answers to that as well-usually 'just add more staff to deal with it'. That solution brings more problems for us though, so it's a case of 'you can't always get what you want'. Everyone, members and staff alike, have to put up with compromises.

The forum wasn't started as a crusade or a business opportunity. It was more of a whim and a 'why not?'. The lack of a decent forum dedicated to vapor, along with a growing vaporizer industry, made it easy for the forum to grow and be successful. It also takes some luck and other intangibles to make a successful forum. I've seen quite a few fail to get off the launching pad, and even the best and most popular forums can go wrong and fail. That was the case with the forum at Marijuana.com, and I saw it from the perspective of both a member and a mod. A few years ago it was the #1 mj site for traffic, and the forum was booming. Changing the format/software, along with greed from new owners due to the multi-million dollar value it had become, ran off virtually all the long time members who were the foundation of the forum, and it became a ghost town. It's not nearly as valuable a commodity as it used to be. FC, OTOH, has a ton of traffic, but only has 9 sponsors, and no ads like you have to put up with on other sites. vtac has had many offers from companies wanting to be sponsors and/or pay for advertising. I, for one, am thankful that he hasn't gone for the money, and FC is much more of a non-profit, public service forum than a business. People also need to keep in mind that the forum isn't a democracy. It's owned by one person, and he could shut it down tomorrow if he wanted. So maybe we should all be glad for what we do have, forum wise, instead of focusing on the fact that it's not an ideal format.
 

HomeFree

Well-Known Member
There is always gonna be a few new guys who think they can run a forum better. No matter the forum.

I don't believe there is any way to keep every single person happy all the time either, just the majority. Every once in a while someone could fall into the minority.

I think it's important to respect the guidelines and operations of a forum and follow the golden rule "don't be a dick". A website is private property.
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
Sorry Guys!!! That is just plain SILLY :rofl:

silly|ˈsilē| adjective(sillier, silliest) having or showing a lack of common sense or judgment; absurd and foolish

What I find silly are those who come into someone else's house and tells them that the way their house is organized is silly or that their house rules are silly.

It's one thing to offer up constructive criticism or ask questions about why something is the way it is, but it's quite another thing to call their rules "silly" once an explanation is given. THAT, in my opinion, was totally uncalled for.

Edit: Did my post here just close this thread? I have a tendency to do that. Sorry......:uhoh: (or not...)
 
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h3rbalist

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
The format and structure of this forum has been shaped through the years and may not make sense to newcomers, but has been thought through and works for the amount of staff we have.

This is so true.

As a noob I once made the mistake of offering a valid forum change suggestion.

I didn't't mean to upset anyone and thought I was actually being helpful.

I was soon put in my place and it was clear to me then that there won't be any major changes round here anytime soon.

The one thing I would like to address, and maybe this is not the right place but if the search function worked a little better most of the above issues would be irrelevant. In my opinion.
 
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Eschient

Giga-Dweebess
This is so true.

As a noob I once made the mistake of offering a valid forum change suggestion.

I didn't't mean to upset anyone and thought I was actually being helpful.

I was soon put in my place and it was clear to me then that there won't be any major changes round here anytime soon.

The one thing I would like to address, and maybe this is not the right place but if the search function worked a little better most of the above issues would be irrelevant. In my opinion.


I don't think I've ever used a forum search that doesn't blow. I always use google by searching site:SITENAME SEARCH TERMS like site:fuckcombustion.com ABV tacos for enemies - um, well, maybe not that search... :zombie:

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We get criticism on the way the forum I mod is managed, too. Then when we do make changes, all the regulars get up in arms because they can't find anything or they think it's a sign of the selling out of the soul of their beloved community, even if it's something as simple as changing the name of a subforum. You can't win.

When it comes to the "reducing clutter" argument that the OP brought up - you don't want to delete posts, you lock them and archive them so people can look back at the information and NOT open ANOTHER thread asking the exact same thing. 8 conversations on essentially the same topic is the definition of chaos for mods and the poor people trying to keep track of who they already responded to.

You don't leave threads open once they are off on a tangent. Once they are off topic - as determined by the nature of the forum - they are no longer useful. Serious conversations aren't really helping anyone in a random thread that the OP isn't even interested in anymore. If someone has such specific questions -IE battery life of a product- I'd agree that information belongs in the product thread. If the OP wanted that much information, they'd have asked in the appropriate manufacturer's thread. But in a lot of cases, these threads are simply a different way of saying "I'm tired of reading/don't want to read/I'm overwhelmed by {the big thread}, make the decision for me so I can get my new toy ordered!" :lol:
 

lwien

Well-Known Member
As a noob I once made the mistake of offering a valid forum change suggestion.

That is NOT a mistake. This site is not perfect. No site is and I have do doubt in my mind whatsoever that constructive criticism along with some valid solutions are welcomed. As a matter of fact, there HAS been some changes made here by those efforts.

Just because a solution may not have been implemented does not mean that the suggestion for such changes are not allowed.

Edit: And no.......I am not a mod nor do I ever want to be one, but I have been around here long enough to see things how they actually are, not how they sometimes appear to be.
 

h3rbalist

I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
That is NOT a mistake. This site is not perfect. No site is and I have do doubt in my mind whatsoever that constructive criticism along with some valid solutions are welcomed. As a matter of fact, there HAS been some changes made here by those efforts.

Just because a solution may not have been implemented does not mean that the suggestion for such changes are not allowed.

Edit: And no.......I am not a mod nor do I ever want to be one, but I have been around here long enough to see things how they actually are, not how they sometimes appear to be.

I was implying I felt like I'd made a mistake buy some of the negitive responses I recieved.

Not that I shouldn't of dared to have made a suggestion in the first place.

My main point is regarding the search and the above info by @Eschient should be stickied somewhere. Because it sure would help a lot of people who are not as familiar with 'other' forums.
 
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