This May Be Goodbye...

[NickDlow]

Well I've been debating whether or not to say this in an open forum but I may not have a choice but to stop using MJ and MJ products. Well not so much the wood part but my consumption of MJ and therefore no need to buy vapes nd accessories for it.

As some of you know I'm in Rhode Island which is a mmj friendly state and also decriminalized up to an Oz. But The company I work for is a federally regulated, so they have a ZERO tolerance for MJ.

I've recently been told they will be implementing and acting on a random drug test policy. It's been suspicion drug test so far and I've been dealing with that just fine. And rather than pee tests they're going to start using hair.

MJ is literally the only thing I use, not even common aspirin. But MJ is the hardest to get out of your system and its the most frowned upon. I can't even imagine how much of an asshole in going to be without mj. My anxiety is going to sky rocket n I bet I'll pick up cigs again too.

It's too early to tell but if I see them actually start doing this I'll have no choice but to stop. This job is all I have, I'm a high school drop out with no experience besides the my current field. I would be stupid to chance losing 90k+ a year. I will be fucked in plain English!

It kills me to even think like that. All I can hope for is by some miracle it's legalized federally and they figure out a way to detect levels of thc or whatever to an amount rather than saying 'yup he smoking within the past month plus'.

If it does happen my contribution to FC will be minimal a best but I'll do my best to keep in touch with some of you guys.

I may be getting ahead of myself here but I usually plan on the worst case scenario. That way there aren't any surprises and I'm not let down.

But I would like to thank FC and all its members for all the information and great people I've come to know and love as my own family. Special thank you @vtac @momofthegoons @stickstones and other founders and moderators for starting and this amazing community and making it what it is today.

As for the other members, I won't even begin to list names because I know I'll forget someone. So to everyone in general thank you all for contributing to FC and helping become the log snob I am today.

Also to the amazing vendors/friends on here @Ed's TnT @Snappo @underdog @underdogette @ACE OF VAPE @Ratchett @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd and others I'm sure I missed, thank you for all the great products you all have made me. Also please do not take any offense if you see some of your custom stuff in the classifieds if I liquidate my collection. I wish I could justify keeping it all but I just can't.

So this isn't goodbye just yet but this has been on my mind the past couple days since I've heard about it. I needed a place to share. Idk if it qualifies as a thread because there isn't much else to say, besides we'll see what happens...

Once again thank you everyone! I love u guys n gals, best wishes to all!

Sorry for the book...

Mom note: Edited to stay within the rules

 

[ChippyMalone]

I have greatly valued your input and helpful nature around here, and your absence will be noticed by many.

My wife had similar issues, as we live in Washington state, but she is a federal employee and works in on a large federal campus. So she can't enjoy it here either!

Of course, there are countless things to consider, but it can't hurt to keep your resume updated and have search bots send you job openings in cool places. That's how we immigrated from the bible belt to Washington state. My wife finally found a lateral transfer to a desirable location in her very specialized field. She looked for at least five years casually before the right one came and she pulled the trigger.

But however it shakes out for you, thank you for being a positive member of the community. This place is rare in the cannabis community for being so intelligent and mature and helpful, particularly for those who need this for medical needs.

 

[DieHard]

Well I've been debating weather or not to say this in an open forum but I may not have a choice but to stop using MJ and MJ products. Well not so much the wood part but my consumption of MJ and therefore no need to buy vapes nd accessories for it.

As some of you know I'm in Rhode Island which is a mmj friendly state and also decriminalized up to an Oz. But The company I work for is a federally regulated, so they have a ZERO tolerance for MJ.

I've recently been told they will be implementing and acting on a random drug test policy. It's been suspicion drug test so far and I've been dealing with that just fine. And rather than pee tests they're going to start using hair.

MJ is literally the only thing I use, not even common aspirin. But MJ is the hardest to get out of your system and its the most frowned upon. I can't even imagine how much of an asshole in going to be without mj. My anxiety is going to sky rocket n I bet I'll pick up cigs again too.

It's too early to tell but if I see them actually start doing this I'll have no choice but to stop. This job is all I have, I'm a high school drop out with no experience besides the my current field. I would be stupid to chance losing 90k+ a year. I will be fucked in plain English!

It kills me to even think like that. All I can hope for is by some miracle it's legalized federally and they figure out a way to detect levels of thc or whatever to an amount rather than saying 'yup he smoking within the past month plus'.

If it does happen my contribution to FC will be minimal a best but I'll do my best to keep in touch with some of you guys.

I may be getting ahead of myself here but I usually plan on the worst case scenario. That way there aren't any surprises and I'm not let down.

But I would like to thank FC and all its members for all the information and great people I've come to know and love as my own family. Special thank you @vtac @momofthegoons @stickstones and other founders and moderators for starting and this amazing community and making it what it is today.

As for the other members, I won't even begin to list names because I know I'll forget someone. So to everyone in general thank you all for contributing to FC and helping become the log snob I am today.

Also to the amazing vendors on here @Ed's TnT @Snappo @underdog @underdogette @ACE OF VAPE @Ratchett @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd and others I'm sure I missed, thank you for all the great products you all have made me. Also please do not take any offense if you see some of your custom stuff in the classifieds if I liquidate my collection. I wish I could justify keeping it all but I just can't.

So this isn't goodbye just yet but this has been on my mind the past couple days since I've heard about it. I needed a place to share. Idk if it qualifies as a thread because there isn't much else to say, besides we'll see what happens...

Once again thank you everyone! I love u guys n gals, best wishes to all!

Sorry for the book...

Dammit man! That really fucking sucks. That hair test is rather expensive, hard to think about that type of testing becoming the mainstream. Agreed that it makes no sense to risk it. There are products to cleanse the hair of those type of contaminants. My hair is way long so I'm sure it could tell quite a few tales. Only my Union keeps them from doing the same thing to me.

 

[NickDlow]

Dammit man! That really fucking sucks. That hair test is rather expensive, hard to think about that type of testing becoming the mainstream. Agreed that it makes no sense to risk it. There are products to cleanse the hair of those type of contaminants. My hair is way long so I'm sure it could tell quite a few tales. Only my Union keeps them from doing the same thing to me.

@DieHard ill pm u in getting too specific sorry

@ChippyMalone thank you for the kind words, advise and encouragement.

 

[Bravesst]

Well I've been debating weather or not to say this in an open forum but I may not have a choice but to stop using MJ and MJ products. Well not so much the wood part but my consumption of MJ and therefore no need to buy vapes nd accessories for it.

As some of you know I'm in Rhode Island which is a mmj friendly state and also decriminalized up to an Oz. But The company I work for is a federally regulated, so they have a ZERO tolerance for MJ.

I've recently been told they will be implementing and acting on a random drug test policy. It's been suspicion drug test so far and I've been dealing with that just fine. And rather than pee tests they're going to start using hair.

MJ is literally the only thing I use, not even common aspirin. But MJ is the hardest to get out of your system and its the most frowned upon. I can't even imagine how much of an asshole in going to be without mj. My anxiety is going to sky rocket n I bet I'll pick up cigs again too.

It's too early to tell but if I see them actually start doing this I'll have no choice but to stop. This job is all I have, I'm a high school drop out with no experience besides the my current field. I would be stupid to chance losing 90k+ a year. I will be fucked in plain English!


It kills me to even think like that. All I can hope for is by some miracle it's legalized federally and they figure out a way to detect levels of thc or whatever to an amount rather than saying 'yup he smoking within the past month plus'.

If it does happen my contribution to FC will be minimal a best but I'll do my best to keep in touch with some of you guys.

I may be getting ahead of myself here but I usually plan on the worst case scenario. That way there aren't any surprises and I'm not let down.

But I would like to thank FC and all its members for all the information and great people I've come to know and love as my own family. Special thank you @vtac @momofthegoons @stickstones and other founders and moderators for starting and this amazing community and making it what it is today.

As for the other members, I won't even begin to list names because I know I'll forget someone. So to everyone in general thank you all for contributing to FC and helping become the log snob I am today.

Also to the amazing vendors on here @Ed's TnT @Snappo @underdog @underdogette @ACE OF VAPE @Ratchett @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd and others I'm sure I missed, thank you for all the great products you all have made me. Also please do not take any offense if you see some of your custom stuff in the classifieds if I liquidate my collection. I wish I could justify keeping it all but I just can't.

So this isn't goodbye just yet but this has been on my mind the past couple days since I've heard about it. I needed a place to share. Idk if it qualifies as a thread because there isn't much else to say, besides we'll see what happens...

Once again thank you everyone! I love u guys n gals, best wishes to all!

Sorry for the book...

I feel you pain brother. The FDNY only tested for "suspicion" for years, and just after I retired went to random. Having to make a choice between livelihood and MJ is not easy. Fucking government sucks for this... Nowadays, when you become a cop or fireman, they shave a leg. So freaking stupid. I'm sorry friend...

Just had to add this. The "zero tolerance" cliche just pisses me off!

 

[Ed's TnT]

My man my brother from another mutha, dont sweat a thing, you have a good thing going a wonderful future ahead of you, you do what you gotta do while things are the way they are, nothing ever stays the same. like @ChippyMalone said keep some feelers out there, you dont have to stay where you are at and you dont have to work for the same company, you may find a better position elsewhere with fewer restrictions and regulations. One thing I know is that you are a young guy and have the whole world in your hands, you havent just yet staked your claim nor dug in deep with your roots, you have a great head on your shoulders and a bright future ahead of you dont let this little bump in the road slow you down or get ya down. You arent just a customer to me bro, we rap from time to time and I am glad to call you a friend, I will always be here for you no matter what. One thing I know your addiction runs deep, you may not buy any vape stems from me in the future, but I have a feeling you will pick up another hoard of custom wood for some other love in your life, for all we know you will be hitting me up for a couple buckeye burl hand turned candle stick holders, ohhhh how bout this one its easy enough, I bet youll have a freaking huge collection of turned wooden stylus's for your Ipad or tablet, lol!

I can do this and would be happy to for you, you know how I like to get out of the box! Hang in there chief, you are the man! I wish you all the best and many blessings in your future!

 

[TeeJay1952]

Everything is in a state of flux. Changes are happening daily. Walls are falling that have stood for decades. Save your collection as a memory of better times and you will be ready when the fog is finally lifted in America.

 

[h3rbalist]

Not the end of the world.

I'm sure what ever happens you will do alright. It sounds like you have your head screwed on correctly.

Good luck mate.

 

[momofthegoons]

@NickDlow that is just sad news. But... there is some hope on the horizon. Many think things are going to change in 2016. Perhaps those changes will effect you and your job. Fingers crossed.

 

[NickDlow]

My man my brother from another mutha, dont sweat a thing, you have a good thing going a wonderful future ahead of you, you do what you gotta do while things are the way they are, nothing ever stays the same. like @ChippyMalone said keep some feelers out there, you dont have to stay where you are at and you dont have to work for the same company, you may find a better position elsewhere with fewer restrictions and regulations. One thing I know is that you are a young guy and have the whole world in your hands, you havent just yet staked your claim nor dug in deep with your roots, you have a great head on your shoulders and a bright future ahead of you dont let this little bump in the road slow you down or get ya down. You arent just a customer to me bro, we rap from time to time and I am glad to call you a friend, I will always be here for you no matter what. One thing I know your addiction runs deep, you may not buy any vape stems from me in the future, but I have a feeling you will pick up another hoard of custom wood for some other love in your life, for all we know you will be hitting me up for a couple buckeye burl hand turned candle stick holders, ohhhh how bout this one its easy enough, I bet youll have a freaking huge collection of turned wooden stylus's for your Ipad or tablet, lol!

I can do this and would be happy to for you, you know how I like to get out of the box! Hang in there chief, you are the man! I wish you all the best and many blessings in your future!

I dont really use those, I can barely take using my phone nevermind tablets n things. I'm sure we can come up with some projects, it's always fun testing your skill bud. I can't seem to crack em tho.

Thank you for all the kind words too. You're one hell of a guy with one hell of a story. If I'm half as strong as you I'll be alright. My friend you have scaled mountains in comparison to my situation. I can only hope to have that type of strength.

But let's not talk like it's happening because I'll still be enjoying my MJ and all of your amazing pieces till the day the MAN comes knocking.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

@NickDlow, Sorry to hear that!

Truly a shame the world we live in where a simple plant that benefits so many people can cause one to risk loosing their job. But as @momofthegoons said, there is hope on the horizon. Things are changing, faster than I expected. Who knows what the future will hold!

 

[Melting Pot]

@NickDlow All I can say is wow...
It's to early to respond to this, Im just gonna say life has a way of working out. Don't sweat it.
Keep in touch..

 

[NickDlow]

@NickDlow, Sorry to hear that!

Truly a shame the world we live in where a simple plant that benefits so many people can cause one to risk loosing their job. But as @momofthegoons said, there is hope on the horizon. Things are changing, faster than I expected. Who knows what the future will hold!

Thanks buddy, we'll see what happens. If it's worst case scenario I'll survive. Thankfully I don't use it medically beside making me tolerate the utter stupidity and bullshit of people in life. So I'll just be an asshole, I don't think that's a medical diagnosis lol. So it could be worse for me. But hopefully for people who NEED it, we get some change.

 

[SSVUN~YAH]

Say it ain't so Nick, say it ain't so...

 

[NickDlow]

Say it ain't so Nick, say it ain't so...

It ain't so, just yet. Even so you'll be hearing from me buddy.

Same for you @Melting Pot, didn't mean to not respond. Thanks

 

[stickstones]

We're here for you, however it plays out.

 

[vapirtoo]

America should be checking the quality of your work not the quality of your piss or hair.
Great grammar for a H.S. dropout!
You are a sharp guy, so you will adjust, adapt and overcome.

 

[Bravesst]

EXACTLY!!! the cannabis stigma has got to go. I wish I could be the poster child for emergency workers for PTSD, the very jobs that the first to demand piss tests are the same jobs that create PTSD - which I have full blown, but thank God retired from FDNY now, and they can all go to hell!

 

[vapirtoo]

Sadly
We seem to be the last group still in the
"closet".

 

[Philreal187]

@NickDlow I'm a firm believer that life has a plan and always works to your advantage upon getting down your path of life. Never sweat the curve balls life throws just knock them out the park and keep on keeping on my man. I think many of us have truly enjoyed your positive contributions to the community. I wish ya nothing but the best as you continue to blaze your own trail. And I'm sure u will find a few logs along this trail!!!

 

[flotntoke]

@NickDlow - So sorry to hear this brother. Hope they change their mind or at least go to piss tests. Hair tests are the worst! Whatever happens, hang in there and stay strong for you!

 

[mitchgo61]

Good luck Nick. I hate to read this kind of thing. Do what ya gotta do (me I'd shave my head, but for me, no great loss ). Perhaps it'll all blow over before you have to worry about it. (If you need any contacts in weed-friendly industries like software, TV, or advertising, gimme a shout in PM....I grew up in the TV biz in the 80s, where they took office doors off the hinges to stop sales guys from doing blow at work....let's just say none of these folk give a crap about weed!)

Hopefully we'll be reading your posts for the foreseeable future.

 

[Slow Draw McGraw]

Nick my man, props on making big decisions.
As others stated, truly sad how things are right now. I use medically so I would be devasted if I had to make this choice. I have done so in the past to eventually damage my health for two years taking pharmaceuticals and also caused me to lose my job because of missing work so much due to side effects. Hair tests are plain ridiculous. Any test for that matter. Preliminary is one thing, because of formalities, but if you've been performing, what good does a random test do for someone in that situation? I'll be around if you ever want to chat. Still want one of your vapes.....you know which one.

p.s. i wish you best of luck.

 

[WoodVillain]

Man that sucks brother, i hope things turn out differently than what your expecting. I know making a living is more important than MJ, but its a shame when a responsible person can enjoy a natural plant on their own free time... Yet, i bet they'd have no issues with you downing a bottle of whiskey every night after work.... The country is still so confused...

Keep your head up bud, i hope to NOT ever see any of your collection for sale.... Your collection is one to be drooled over and admired by all as a whole.

But i do understand if things turned the WRONG way... If it were me....Just keeping my vapes would pressure me into wanting to use them even more.... It would almost be like they were laughing at me LOL..... So id understand for sure brother.

Good luck man, ill keep my fingers crossed for ya!

 

[FlyingLow]

SO sorry brother, I feel for ya and am hoping the feds act soon... War on Pot is a fucking joke.