Discontinued ThermoVape

Hey guys,
Now I'm on looking out for sort of a backup vaporizer and I'm thinking t1 or evolution either way with a revolution as well. I'm going to mainly be smoking hash with the occasional flower from time to time. So of course the question at hand would be - what will suit me best?
(I've checked youtube and to me it appears as if the hash/flower is placed directly on the ceramic heating element (in the evolution), wouldn't this result in some combustion?) - never mind this question, found a better video:)
Thank you.

Vaporiffic

Btw do the power supply units in the evo and t1 have the same specifications?
 
Vaporiffic,

OF

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Btw do the power supply units in the evo and t1 have the same specifications?

Sort of. The top piece, which TV calls the interface, the part above the battery containing the switch and attaching the Evolution cart or T1 head differs. Evolution uses the same piece as Revolution here, T1 is bigger in diameter and carries the heat shield in T1. Everything below that interchanges.

You should also be aware there are two different battery configurations and voltages. Initially they used two RCR123A batteries (3.0 Volts each) for a total of six in the so called "SV" (Standard Voltage) units. All T1s are this way. A different charger is needed. Revolution/DART and Evolution later came in the more popular "LV" (Low Voltage) single battery version using a single 17650 3.7 Volt battery. These guys have 'LV' laser engraved on the contact button on the connector of the cart. They use the same basic charger as Cera does. You can get them 'rewound' for the other voltage for $15 at the factory.

Not a simple answer, one of the things Cera is made to address.

Confusing enough? Clear your head and ask a couple questions and we'll try to sort it out?

OF
 

fogbank

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Btw do the power supply units in the evo and t1 have the same specifications?

Just to add one more bit of info that OF did not cover:

The AC power adaptor sold by TV also works in both the T1 and Evo (SV models).

If you are looking for a more reliable backup vape I would recommend seeking out the AC adaptor. They may be getting harder to find...?
 

OF

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The AC power adaptor sold by TV also works in both the T1 and Evo (SV models).

If you are looking for a more reliable backup vape I would recommend seeking out the AC adaptor. They may be getting harder to find...?

Excellent point. At the risk of getting myself in trouble, you might contact TV. A while back they had a good supply of the fancy 'wall worts' to make them and I believe the mechanical parts as well. In the past the wall worts were the problem, they had plenty of mechanical parts. I bet if you asked nice enough they could build you one if you can't find it in stock somewhere.

OF
 
Confusing enough? Clear your head and ask a couple questions and we'll try to sort it out?

OF

Haha well exactly what I was thinking:)
The evolution I've been offered is the standard version with 6 volts (2 batteries). The reason I raised the question is that I really like the look of the t1 (for vaping pressed hash that is) but obviously I have no idea if there is a difference between the 2. The thing is that I can buy the evolution here in Denmark, so if there's not any real difference in the 2 I might as well get the evo. I plan regardless if its the t1 or evo to complement it with the revolution. What do you think of the 2 devices and the difference?
Thank you.


Just to add one more bit of info that OF did not cover:

The AC power adaptor sold by TV also works in both the T1 and Evo (SV models).

If you are looking for a more reliable backup vape I would recommend seeking out the AC adaptor. They may be getting harder to find...?

Thank you, I'll probably be good with just the batteries but I would really like another thermovape as backup. (By AC adaptor I take it you mean plug it into the wall)

Vaporiffic

Just to post the price difference between the 2 I'll be paying roughly 2/3 of the price with no customs hassle and I get a trip to Christiania if I choose the evo - but again the best device does matter more:)
 

OF

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What do you think of the 2 devices and the difference?
Thank you.

(By AC adaptor I take it you mean plug it into the wall)

Just to post the price difference between the 2 I'll be paying roughly 2/3 of the price with no customs hassle and I get a trip to Christiania if I choose the evo - but again the best device does matter more:)

I personally like the T1 better, but IMO either is an excellent choice and will work well. I think T1 has a slight edge on flavor, but you need to mix the load up between hits (either open and stir, or loosen the cap and shake it some) for even vaping. Evolution is a little longer to get going but tends to heat the entire load more evenly so stirring is not needed. But this also means more bud at higher temperatures so taste can suffer some and it's harder to keep clean IMO.

Evolution also lends itself to experimenting more I think, about the only mod worth considering in T1 is adding a flat 5/8 inch screen on top to help keep the outlet holes clean longer. Evolution can be a never ending fiddle project if you want.....

Yes, the AC adapter replaces the battery tube and body with a hole in the bottom for a wire to the mains. You get constant (long life) hottest possible performance (it's set at 'fully charged battery level'), some find this a big plus. Personally I'd rather it be cordless. Another strong point of modualrity IMO. Very cool.

Hard to pass up lower price and a road trip.......

No matter which way you go I think you'll be impressed. TV makes very solid, well designed and tested, gear and stands behind it completely in the rare case where folks need that.

OF
 
Hard to pass up lower price and a road trip.......

You're right and I think those will be the deciding factors. Just seems so easy without customs or anything and I've found a British web shop with a revolution to t1 converter kit (should work right??) though a bit pricey, but its there if I do get hell bent on having it.
If both were from the US I would order the t1 without a doubt.
Well thanks again I got some thinking to do.


No matter which way you go I think you'll be impressed. TV makes very solid, well designed and tested, gear and stands behind it completely in the rare case where folks need that.

OF

Yea, after talking to Zeki about trying to figure out the whole importing the cera to Denmark drama, I have no doubt in those guys:) And the product quality just seems so awesome:)

Vaporiffic

Btw just to clarify it was a question lol:D The revolution to t1 converter kit will do the same on an evo right?

You should also be aware there are two different battery configurations and voltages. Initially they used two RCR123A batteries (3.0 Volts each) for a total of six in the so called "SV" (Standard Voltage) units. All T1s are this way. A different charger is needed. Revolution/DART and Evolution later came in the more popular "LV" (Low Voltage) single battery version using a single 17650 3.7 Volt battery. These guys have 'LV' laser engraved on the contact button on the connector of the cart. They use the same basic charger as Cera does. You can get them 'rewound' for the other voltage for $15 at the factory.

OF

Hmm just one follow up question, to be sure... This does mean that I will not be able to run the evo core from the standard voltage on a ultra power supply with a 14500, 3,7 volt battery, right?
Thank you

Vaporiffic
 

OF

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Hmm just one follow up question, to be sure... This does mean that I will not be able to run the evo core from the standard voltage on a ultra power supply with a 14500, 3,7 volt battery, right?
Thank you

Yes, you need the LV version for 3.7 Volts. However, be careful, 14500 size batteries are pretty marginal for the power demands of Evolution. You'll only get a few hits per charge most likely, it can be done but is not recommended. I've done it but can't recommend it. The larger supplies with their 17650s do much better. I don't think TV ever offered a complete unit in that configuration. Evolution is like 20 Watts, very serious power for that little guy. For sure use AW brand IMR batteries there if you want to stand a chance.

Btw just to clarify it was a question lol:D The revolution to t1 converter kit will do the same on an evo right?

Yes Revolution version of the 17650 tube (or two RCR123As) is the same. Evolution should screw on the same place as Evolution in fact. Some of the Revolution and Evolution kits don't have the plastic insulating sleeve that T1 has but that's not a big deal IMO, it can get warm but not overly hot (which is bad for the battery inside anyway.

Here's an old photo that might help a bit:


From the left there's an Omicron V1 (ignore it), then the Revolution on the 17650 Ultra supply. Next is the DART version (prototype, it's plated in production units) on the smaller (but not much so) 14500 supply and lastly the 10440 version, largely useless. Evolution is about as big as Revolution, a big bigger in diameter, with a 'full diameter' plastic heat shield around most of it.

T1 replaces the rounded bit at the top of the tube where Revolution screws in with the T1 top (with it's own switch), the top 1/3 of which then unscrews exposing the bowl. T1 also has the plastic sleeve covering the bulk of the metal (matching the cover on the T1 head).

Except for the battery itself and the switch it can all be boiled in water or soaked in alcohol for cleaning.

OF
 
First off thanks OF, you really know your stuff and its cool you're sharing it:)

Yes, you need the LV version for 3.7 Volts. However, be careful, 14500 size batteries are pretty marginal for the power demands of Evolution. You'll only get a few hits per charge most likely, it can be done but is not recommended. I've done it but can't recommend it. The larger supplies with their 17650s do much better. I don't think TV ever offered a complete unit in that configuration. Evolution is like 20 Watts, very serious power for that little guy. For sure use AW brand IMR batteries there if you want to stand a chance.

Ok, thought it might be a bit sketchy. I was offered an ultra together with the revolution and wanted to be absolutely sure. How does the revolution take the 6 volts base of the evo/t1 then?? I noticed you have your revolution on an ultra as well, do this work better together than a revolution and evo/t1 base setup?


Yes Revolution version of the 17650 tube (or two RCR123As) is the same. Evolution should screw on the same place as Evolution in fact. Some of the Revolution and Evolution kits don't have the plastic insulating sleeve that T1 has but that's not a big deal IMO, it can get warm but not overly hot (which is bad for the battery inside anyway.

Great then there's always the ability to convert it. I think the evo has the insulating sleeve (we're talking the plastic covering the evolution cart itself right?) but I'll be sure to check.

Here's an old photo that might help a bit:


From the left there's an Omicron V1 (ignore it), then the Revolution on the 17650 Ultra supply. Next is the DART version (prototype, it's plated in production units) on the smaller (but not much so) 14500 supply and lastly the 10440 version, largely useless. Evolution is about as big as Revolution, a big bigger in diameter, with a 'full diameter' plastic heat shield around most of it.

T1 replaces the rounded bit at the top of the tube where Revolution screws in with the T1 top (with it's own switch), the top 1/3 of which then unscrews exposing the bowl. T1 also has the plastic sleeve covering the bulk of the metal (matching the cover on the T1 head).

A thousand words and a picture is worth more than a.... Mmm that got messed up:) it did help, thank you brah.

Except for the battery itself and the switch it can all be boiled in water or soaked in alcohol for cleaning.

OF

Yup been that checking that out:) I think that's just testament to the intelligent design and built quality thermovape puts into their products. Can't wait to get my hands on that evo Monday and finding something good to vape at Christiania:D

Vaporiffic
 
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First off thanks OF, you really know your stuff and its cool you're sharing it:)

Ok, thought it might be a bit sketchy. I was offered an ultra together with the revolution and wanted to be absolutely sure. How does the revolution take the 6 volts base of the evo/t1 then?? I noticed you have your revolution on an ultra as well, do this work better together than a revolution and evo/t1 base setup?

You're welcome. This isn't really my stuff, TV did it you know....it's just the sort of stuff I understand and I'm trying to pass that along to those who might benefit from it. I also subscribe to the old saw about others lurking in and benefiting as well, don't you?

Ultra (the 14500 version) was made for Revolution/DART IMO. I know it happened all different and all, but I really think Revolution/DART is 'in it's element' with that battery. The bigger battery in the 17650 will run it longer of course, but the AW IMR will give you something like 12 or 15 minutes of total 'key down' heat time, way more vapor than most mortals can deal with from a well filled Revolution. It's my favorite way to run it for sure.

That is for the LV version, of course. SV needs 6 Volts bringing you back to the bigger body and two RCR123As, the original (unmarked) configuration. The PA is built on this format.

Given my druthers (and I have both options) I go with the LV and 14500 'every time'.

I hope I got it all, if not, please give me another chance?

OF
 
You're welcome. This isn't really my stuff, TV did it you know....it's just the sort of stuff I understand and I'm trying to pass that along to those who might benefit from it. I also subscribe to the old saw about others lurking in and benefiting as well, don't you?

I know, I know, but you do know it:) and its great you share it.
I'm with your there, the majority of info seekers here will be non-members - but heck they need help too:)


Ultra (the 14500 version) was made for Revolution/DART IMO. I know it happened all different and all, but I really think Revolution/DART is 'in it's element' with that battery. The bigger battery in the 17650 will run it longer of course, but the AW IMR will give you something like 12 or 15 minutes of total 'key down' heat time, way more vapor than most mortals can deal with from a well filled Revolution. It's my favorite way to run it for sure.

Alright maybe I should look into getting some AW IMRs, and try these different revolution options out myself. 12 minutes should be good with spare batteries in the bag - it is concentrate after all:)

That is for the LV version, of course. SV needs 6 Volts bringing you back to the bigger body and two RCR123As, the original (unmarked) configuration. The PA is built on this.
OF

Not completely sure what you mean by PA?

Given my druthers (and I have both options) I go with the LV and 14500 'every time'.

Hmmm makes me doubtful about getting the SV and not the LV. I hate making these decisions without experience of my own to draw on, but I guess I'll only get there by jumping in and trying some devices. I could have my SV rewound to a LV if I send it too thermovape right? So I guess there's always that option and then getting the t1 converter to use with the SV base unit.


I hope I got it all, if not, please give me another chance?

Of course. I think you did though, I'll probably post again if not:) Thank you again.

Vaporiffic
 
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I know, I know, but you do know it:) and its great you share it.
I'm with your there, the majority of info seekers here will be non-members - but heck they need help too:)

Thanks very much for the kind words, I'm happy to help when/where I can.

You're right, I think, we all need help in some way or another from time to time. Some are smart enough to recognize that and seek it.....some aren't.

Some need help sorting out this very confusing high tech stuff, some need reminding to zip up after the restroom.....let alone washing up.

Alright maybe I should look into getting some AW IMRs, and try these different revolution options out myself. 12 minutes should be good with spare batteries in the bag - it is concentrate after all:)

Not completely sure what you mean by PA?

Yep, anyone still standing after 12 minutes with Revolution needs to look for better concentrate.

IMRs, where available, are 'the right stuff' here. The semi custom 17650 is pretty unique (and AW branded), it was developed for the high power demand of the high performance 'Surfire' flashllights, very much like our needs. If there was an IMR version I'd try them as well but find the 17650 a good performer as it is. BTW, IMR cycle life is less (maybe half) but IMO it's a small price to pay for performance on tap. I just consider replacement of the battery eventually as a cost of doing business, it's an expendable part.

The PA is the Power Adapter, the mains powered corded version.

Regards.

OF
 
Thanks very much for the kind words, I'm happy to help when/where I can.

You're very welcome.


You're right, I think, we all need help in some way or another from time to time. Some are smart enough to recognize that and seek it.....some aren't.

Some need help sorting out this very confusing high tech stuff, some need reminding to zip up after the restroom.....let alone washing up.

Yup, every man his strength... Or disgusting habit.


IMRs, where available, are 'the right stuff' here. The semi custom 17650 is pretty unique (and AW branded), it was developed for the high power demand of the high performance 'Surfire' flashllights, very much like our needs. If there was an IMR version I'd try them as well but find the 17650 a good performer as it is. BTW, IMR cycle life is less (maybe half) but IMO it's a small price to pay for performance on tap. I just consider replacement of the battery eventually as a cost of doing business, it's an expendable part.

I'll definitely try to find those. I'm not to worried cost wise either, if half the life cycle means 3-400 chargers then that's alright for the 5-6 euros they cost. It's probably gained anyways in more efficient vaporization of the concentrate.


Regarding that evo I don't know what I'm gonna do. Sounds like the LV is the superior one of the two and if that's truly the case then I might be better of just throwing the extra cash after that or even the t1, aww man:D
How do you think the SV will fare with the pressed hash I'll be using mostly?

Thank you

Vaporiffic
 
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How do you think the SV will fare with the pressed hash I'll be using mostly?

I don't have a lot of experience with pressed hash in Evolution, others have done it a lot more and have experimended with screens, spacers, different insulators and so on where I haven't. I've just put a pinch of herb (or even ABV) in the bottom and put the hash in and got OK results with little trouble. But, having other options, I didn't spend a lot of time there.

Hopefully other folks will chime in with first hand experiences, but from my POV you should expect 'at least OK results' no matter? One interesting effect is the bowl seems to go and go and go and go. Every time I thought it was finally getting weak it'd slam me again with the next hit.....or at least often enough to keep me trying for another.....

OF
 
I don't have a lot of experience with pressed hash in Evolution, others have done it a lot moreand have experimended with screens, spacers, different insulators and so on where I haven't. I've just put a pinch of herb (or even ABV) in the bottom and put the hash in and got OK results with little trouble. But, having other options, I didn't spend a lot of time there.

Hopefully other folks will chime in with first hand experiences, but from my POV you should expect 'at least OK results' no matter? One interesting effect is the bowl seems to go and go and go and go. Every time I thought it was finally getting weak it'd slam me again with the next hit.....or at least often enough to keep me trying for another.....

OF


Thank you for the all the help.
I went ahead and bought it and I'll definitely will be experimenting with it. And I'm gonna try your herb trick with hash for sure and maybe a little concentrate.
Sitting in the train right now can't wait for tomorrow where I'm gonna vape for the very first time:D any last minute advice lol
And I expect better than ok results from thermovape! ;)

Vaporiffic
 

OF

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Thank you for the all the help.

Sitting in the train right now can't wait for tomorrow where I'm gonna vape for the very first time:D any last minute advice lol

And I expect better than ok results from thermovape! ;)

Once again, you're welcome. Sounds like congratulations are in order as well. I'm sure you'll be happy with the decision and look forward to hearing of your experiments.

If you've never vaped before, IMO you're in for a treat. Not, most likely, what you're expecting. It usually takes some getting used to. My advice is don't expect to get knocked over, without all that toxic junk mixed in your body is missing most of it's clues. Recall the first time you smoked? Did you get off? Most don't since it's not a direct thing like alcohol would be.

However, very quickly you mind will realize that the assault on the lungs isn't really necessary. It takes days to weeks typically before guys note that with the exception of their eyes not being bloodshot and their not coughing uncontrollably they're getting the normal THC effects with much less bud. Most, I think, find a 3 or 4 fold increase in economy. Guys go a week on what used to be two days' supply...seriously. You're not burning up half the THC in a fire and mixing the half you do get out with a bunch of nasty stuff.

Work up on it slowly. First you get water, a bit of hot moist air. Then dry then a little flavor (the parts of the herb that give flavor evaporate off at lower temperatures one after the other. Expect to start seeing some vapor in your exhale here. Don't put too much stock in what you see, it's very subjective to lighting and not full of lots of smoke. As you contunue to bump temperature up the flavor dies away, but THC is still coming on strong (but doesn't have much taste itself). That's our meat. It will continue, with more and more CBDs and other good stuff entering the mix until it gets hot enough to start breaking down plant material....and tasting like 'burnt popcorn'. Don't go past this point, combustion is just ahead and the THC is basically gone.

To work Evolution, T1, LL Cera and similar units you need to understand the process. Convection as practiced here is very different that other processes. You should try 3 separate steps (do a search on "3 Steps" posts by me for a couple dozen passes at this in varying detail. Basically you want to give it time to build heat up in the core, maybe 20 or so seconds. You can see this by looking into the empty bowl and turning it on. It reaches 'saturation' (full brightness) in maybe 10 seconds? You want that for a bit so the whole core gets up to working temperature (about 1700F). That's step 1. Step 2 is one or more long slow draws (maybe 15 or 20 seconds to a lung full?). You're not after vapor but are transfering hot air up to the load to heat it. Do a "test puff", puff out the last bit (in your mouth) like a cigar, looking for vapor. Don't be shy, if it's not a solid puff, pull another time and try a puff again.

Once you get the solid test puff you're up to the magic temperature (just under 400F) in the bowl, hopefully the core still has lots of heat stored. Step 2 is over, time for the main event, step 3....hit it like you mean it. The harder you hit the more heat is drawn in, the more vapor is made. Simple and very easy to control when you get the knack.

You quickly learn from the experience as you go along. Soon preheat and transfer (steps 1 and 2) happen automatically, some don't even need the test puff because they 'know it's there'. But at first think in 3 distinct steps is my advice.

There's a similar write up on the Cera Wiki page, under the 'advanced LL' part (3.1.1):
http://vaporpedia.com/wiki/ThermoVape_Cera

We'll be here if you hit a rock, but I doubt that'll happen.

Best wishes.

OF
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Agreed. I could burn a q a week when I was smoking, now an eighth will normally last me 1.5-2 weeks. I could stretch it more if I wanted. I'm right at around 6-8g per month now? And yeah, don't expect that crazy sedating stoney heavy body high. Indicas are still couch locking but it feels less toxic? You might need a week or so before you really adjust to the differences. The taste is superior, the savings great, and tr choices always expanding.

Good luck fighting the Glass/Vaporizer Acquisition Syndrome though :tup:
 

Dogman

Vaporist Extrordinair
I noticed that Pipes still has his AC adapters on Ebay for around 20 to 30 bucks. When I am at home using the T1, I use the Thermovape AC adapter and when I am out and about, the cordless availability is priceless. I have an Arizer Solo, a Palm 2.0 and two T1s that are my main use vaporizers. The T1 is by far my favorite. Flavor, portability and stealth all factor into my conclusion. I love both of the others, but the T1 gets used more than any of them because of the ability to take it anywhere.

Honestly, I prefer my T1 with the wall adapter, solid voltage at all times gives great rips every time.

Thermovape hasn't disappointed me yet!
 

upsetter21

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Dogman... when I read your post I have to wonder if I'm living an a totally alternate universe!

There are so many TV zealots on FC, but I don't know anyone personally. IOW I've never been shown how to use my TV devices. I may sound stupid, but I'm not. I'm in on an Alpha Ultralite, Alpha Ultramax, 6v Evo, 2x 3.7v Revo cores, an AVA atomizer, a glass adapter, dart tips, non-stick loading tool, Moisture FIlter, and maybe something else I'm forgetting.

I haven't really given all this stuff the attention it deserves, and I'm still asking myself HTF I got all this. The success story is the Alpha Ultralight as a great TINY e-cig, albeit useless for the TV heater cores. I've had a few decent rips from a Revo, but always clog it by the third load. I've never gotten a rip off my Evo - but I've killed batteries like nothing else. I realize I am totally ignorant on use of this device. I've finally fallen upon some of the helpful posts here, and have new things to try.

I went to TV for help initially, but we just didn't seem to establish good communication. It seemed like I was on the wrong end of some low moral at the shop. Never did I receive any sort of documentation other than the standard Alpha manual but it only tells you what batteries to use, etc. Nothing about Medical MJ aspects.

So I'm really close to just selling this stuff off. But I've always REALLy wanted especially the Evo to work. Any suggestions? I guess I've never heard anyone say, "This stuff isn't for everyone". It seems people just know something I don't.

I'll read back on "3 Steps" and try when I have some flowers again; just had to share.
 
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Dogman

Vaporist Extrordinair
As far as I know, the T1 isn't for everyone. There, I said it. It was really designed more for the medicinal community than it was your average, everyday user. There have been a lot of people that just did not bond with their T1s the way I did. It took several attempts to get good rips, and a lot longer to get consistent rips.

I was sold on the size and the fact that it is convection. I was willing to work at using it in order to benefit from it looking like an ecig mod. Needless to say, I am very glad I put in the time. It has become my favorite all time vaporizer, although I have a Cera on the way, and I hope to fall in love with her the way I have my T1.

With a lot of vaporizers, there is a learning curve, some have a large curve and some are smaller, but each requires its own set of rules. It is dependant on how diligent you are willing to be in order to accomplish your goals.

The way I have always looked at it, if someone else can do something, so can I!

I hope you are able to find your niche with your T1, it will be well worth the look.



Post note: After posting this and then re-reading it, I think I am beginning to sound like OF, God help us all! :bowdown:
 

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
You'll find some good advice for the Revolution in the TV Rev thread. Words from the wise OF that ring true: load small, load often. I'm dropping .15g MAX in, getting 3-4 good pulls, including some lung-busters if I ride the switch a little more than I intended.
 

OF

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Post note: After posting this and then re-reading it, I think I am beginning to sound like OF, God help us all! :bowdown:

Turn back, SAVE YOURSELF!!!

Words from the wise OF that ring true: load small, load often. I'm dropping .15g MAX in, getting 3-4 good pulls, including some lung-busters if I ride the switch a little more than I intended.

Not sure about the wise guy part, but the rest is gold IMO. Heating more goods up than you're going to use only slows the action, makes control harder and 'muddies' up the taste. Run it lean and hard.....those little guys can really perform. I like having one loaded up and ready (charged battery) for emergency uses.....a guaranteed session in the can if you will?

OF
 
Once again, you're welcome. Sounds like congratulations are in order as well. I'm sure you'll be happy with the decision and look forward to hearing of your experiments.

If you've never vaped before, IMO you're in for a treat. Not, most likely, what you're expecting. It usually takes some getting used to. My advice is don't expect to get knocked over, without all that toxic junk mixed in your body is missing most of it's clues. Recall the first time you smoked? Did you get off? Most don't since it's not a direct thing like alcohol

Thx for the congrats, haven't regretted yet, though it does take some getting used too. So far I love vaping:) it could it hit a bit harder but I'm sure that'll all come with technique and such, as you say, I do definitely feel a high though. Actually I'm one of the 'lucky' ones and got seriously high the first time, 3/5 of us didn't though so you got a point there. In Denmark we have the nasty habit of rolling our joints with cigarettes in them especially for hash, and I can't express how sweet it is not having them mixed in besides all the other toxins.
I followed your guide and got results immediately with some herbs, however there is definitely a learning curve for the kind of pressed hash we have here. But it's without a doubt possible in the evo and I can already tell this hash is gonna last a long way vaping it - at least the 3 times you say:)
So yea all in all I'd say I made the choice in deciding to switch to vaping. I'll be vaping away and when I get the hang of it you'll probably hear more about it:D (maybe even a hash vaping techniques thread).
And my cera is shipping out today so fingers crossed on the whole customs issue:)


Agreed. I could burn a q a week when I was smoking, now an eighth will normally last me 1.5-2 weeks. I could stretch it more if I wanted. I'm right at around 6-8g per month now? And yeah, don't expect that crazy sedating stoney heavy body high. Indicas are still couch locking but it feels less toxic? You might need a week or so before you really adjust to the differences. The taste is superior, the savings great, and tr choices always expanding.

Yup feel the difference in the high already and I gotta say I like it. You actually wanna do other stuff than what results in you being able to sit in the couch:)

Vaporiffic

And not that I'm an expert or anything but it seems like the SV evo was the right way to go for hash.
 

OF

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I followed your guide and got results immediately with some herbs, however there is definitely a learning curve for the kind of pressed hash we have here. But it's without a doubt possible in the evo and I can already tell this hash is gonna last a long way vaping it - at least the 3 times you say:)

Yup feel the difference in the high already and I gotta say I like it. You actually wanna do other stuff than what results in you being able to sit in the couch:)

And not that I'm an expert or anything but it seems like the SV evo was the right way to go for hash.

Thanks for the report and good news. It's tougher to learn on hash for sure, and some of the harder ones I've tried were a challenge for sure. I found surface area was critically important. Shaving off thin slices helps but I got the best results from freezing the hash and going after it with a grater to try to make small grains. Sometimes heating it up with a flame softens it enough to crumble but half the time I try that trick I seem to start loosing vapor before that happens (and who needs that?).

You've stumbled into one of the ironies of this stuff, since you can 'maintain' better (do they use that expression there? It means to appear and act straight to the straights) many of us find we use more hours in the day offsetting the savings......not objecting of course, just offsetting the gain through extra enjoyment.

I also disagree a bit about this expert stuff. Many of the rule are highly subjective and many are being written now (and we can assume have yet to be written?). IMO you're keeping receptive to the results has you on the fast track to expert.....at least in the corner of the game.

Welcome again to the fun. If I were a betting man I'd put tall odds on your quickly becoming a contributor of some note around here, you're going after this with much deliberation and both eyes open.....not bloodshot and squinting shut.

Good luck with the VAS, try to stay away from all the other threads or your wallet will hate you :lol:

Now that's just about the silliest thing I've heard you say, Q Man! Get real, after even a mild case of VAS has emptied the cash and maxed out the plastic that wallet will love him.....it can sit in that nice warm pocket and nap and not worry about a command performance with no warning, right?

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