The WISPR vaporizer
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StrainToGain
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Iolites are my favourite.... my friend handed me one the other day and it was amazing. The taste was so pure. Thinking about getting one very soon. Just saw that everyonedoesit.com are doing a black friday promo where everything at their store is 20% off.
All of a sudden that iolite seems much more within my reach.
All of a sudden that iolite seems much more within my reach.
somehippie
Member
I've had the Wispr for a month now, and have used my Iolite for a little over a year. The original iolite is pitiful without the optimizer, btw.
I love the wispr and haven't used the iolite since I got it. I'm actually about to clean up my iolite to let my girlfriend borrow it
I vape about 5-7 times a day, so the Wispr has been well worth the upgrade [especially since I got a huge discount for buying it at hempcon]. I hear you can't put the optimizer in this one; as it will burn the flower.
First post! Just felt like sharing. If anybody has any questions, feel free to PM me
I love the wispr and haven't used the iolite since I got it. I'm actually about to clean up my iolite to let my girlfriend borrow it
I vape about 5-7 times a day, so the Wispr has been well worth the upgrade [especially since I got a huge discount for buying it at hempcon]. I hear you can't put the optimizer in this one; as it will burn the flower.
First post! Just felt like sharing. If anybody has any questions, feel free to PM me
Gonzo
Slightly Stoopid
Had my WISPR for almost two months and been using it every day. I never tried the original Iolite but I can't say enough about how much I enjoy the WISPR. The only drawback IMO is the hiss noise when the unit is coming back up to temperature. It's not loud, but definitely noticeable in a quiet environment.
tetrahydrocannabinol
Member
Took me less than a week to get a replacement WISPR from O&B and I live in sweden.
I was extremely impressed with the costumer support from O&B and my replacement unit is working perfectly!
I was extremely impressed with the costumer support from O&B and my replacement unit is working perfectly!
somehippie
Member
max said:
I understand; that's just my opinion on the matter. Adding a 3" silicon whip and the optimizer kept me on that iolite for a good year.
max
Out to lunch
You can't have everything. I'm sure O&B would like a silent catalyst system as much as us users.Gonzo said:
They're trying. They've had service issues in the past and they know that's not good for business. Hope your wispr problems are in the past.tetrahydrocannabinol said:
When your opinion is such an extreme one ("pitiful"), it's best if you also include 'I think', 'IMO', etc. in your post. Some people contend that each and every post about a vape's performance is obviously an opinion, but we're a little picky about that here. We even have a rule on stating opinion as fact. Glad you're enjoying the wispr though.
somehippie
Member
max said:
understood; however for the people who actually bought the iolite over a year ago, $240 for an iolite without an optimizer might not have felt like the best use of my money. The iolite would be hard to clean; with the optimizer, you just turn it upside down and everything falls out. The iolite would take about 3-4 re-heats between hits for it to reach [my] optimal [milky-but-not-smokey] temperature, but with the optimizer it would only take 2. The plastic mouthpiece would burn my lips and start to slide right off from built-up resin, but silicon whip will mold perfectly to the shape of your iolite once it heats up and cools down while attached. You could barely see the orange butane light, it would often take 3-5clicks to start up, it got really hot, there's no butane fuel-gauge, it slides/falls off of surfaces easy because it's rounded, it didn't look too bad; but definitely draws people's curiosity.
I wouldn't expect anybody to be offended when I call the original design pitiful, if you take into account the price that it was selling for at the time. However, now that you can get the original iolite+optimizer+whip on amazon for under $130, the iolite definitely does justice.
If you're still interested in paying around $250 for a portable vape, the wispr is the only one worth the money [imo]. I think they Wispr is what Oglesby and Butler were going for with the original iolite.
This may sound like a lot of bickering, but I'm a college student [in CA, obviously lol] who vapes anywhere from 4-7 times a day, so I want a vape that does what it's supposed to do without any "little tricks". If I had the spare time every day, I would have probably invested my hard-earned money in SSV/glass. But for now, the wispr has been my perfect companion, especially money-wise. I just hope it can take the same beating an iolite cana, due to my constant use. haha.
max
Out to lunch
Although the original retail price was $250, internet savvy buyers could get one at the pre-sale price of $200, and a year ago it was a two year old model available many places on-line for much less than retail.
I guess that depends on how you use it. I've been using a three year old unit on a regular basis and it has required very little cleaning at all. I consider the iolite to be one of the easiest models on the market to keep clean, so again, opinions vary, and cleaning needs are determined by how you use it, as well as how often. I've found that loading light, vs. a full bowl, makes for less cleaning no matter how frequently it's used.
I've never really counted the cycles. I always start to hit it after it reaches vaping temp in 90 sec.-2 min. and I'm fine with that-purely a difference of personal preference. The best flavor can be had early in the heating process.
The extension worked fine for me, and even without it, an easy draw prevented too much heat IMO. Hitting it harder will surely be more uncomfortable, and doesn't do much for the taste either, IMO. A little food grade tubing to extend the length has been popular since they first started shipping. As for residue in the mouthpiece, that's just a matter of a quick cleaning with a pipe cleaner. Built up residue in the mouthpiece has never been an issue for me.
Never had that problem. Even in direct sunlight I just use my hand as a funnel so the light is easily seen. They did do a better job of visibility on the wispr, with the larger light, but the iolite light has never been a source of frustration for me, as far as being able to see the color change.
For me, using several different units at one time or another, one click was usually enough. Getting ignition can and definitely has been a problem with some units, but for me it hasn't been the norm.
To me, really hot means too hot to hold, and even holding by the vented area, where it's hottest, has never caused me pain or dropsies. The wispr also gets hot. With both units you have to know where to hold it. Holding the 'guts side' of either unit isn't comfortable.
If they'd added that to the iolite, it would have been even more expensive. You don't want to make your initial product too pricy when you're a company new to vaporizers. You also want to make sure there's enough demand for a more expensive model, with more features and a higher price. O&B used this forum extensively for feedback on what people wanted as far as better features and improvements. They always had it in mind to offer more than one model at different price points. They've been making butane fueled tools for years. They were new to vaporizers, but not new to producing and marketing products.
The wispr's shape is better or worse, depending on what you're trying to do with it. A lot of people prefer the iolite's shape to that of the wispr. Another instance of personal preference according to how and where you use it.
Depending on the person viewing it, and the situation where it's viewed, the wispr could draw even more curiousity. At a distance the iolite can pass for a large cell phone or two way radio.
If anyone is offended, that's their problem. You didn't go off the deep end in your criticism, your view is just an extreme one, and your original post could have used an 'I think' or 'IMO'.
As for the price, like I said, savvy shoppers have never needed to pay full retail, and for a while it was widely availble (even on dealer sites) for as little as $99. And price, as far as being 'worth it', is always a matter of personal opinion.
No, the wispr is what they had in mind for a 2nd, higher priced offering. What they included in the more expensive model was determined by the satifaction level of buyers of the iolite. This is not my opinion. It's info gained directly from an Oglesby.
For me, the wispr only needs the same one 'trick' that the iolite does- an extension for the mouthpiece. And in some instances, the iolite works better with an extension, since the wispr mouthpiece is too flexible to hold up tubing without flopping over. I have to attach the black iolite extension so it stands straight up, and that means a slight sacifice on length and a bigger one on visibility. The iolite, riding in my shirt pocket with a clear piece of tubing attached, is much easier to hit both hands free, and more stealthy as well, with clear tubing.
So, all in all, my use of this type of vape, in preferences and how much it gets used, is very different from yours. If I were to use the kind of terminology you're using, with "pitiful", my opinion of the worthiness of the wispr's improvements, for the extra money, could be 'pathetic'. And in case you haven't read much of the thread, I do own both models. For you the wispr is a much better vaporizer than the iolite. For me it's better, but for my vaping preferences and how much I use a portable, whether it's worth the extra $ or not is iffy. I'm glad you like the wispr, but if you plan to post here more in the future, I hope you'll qualify your opinions more on the basis of what you're looking for in a vape's performance, and how you use it, vs. using more absolute terminology.
smoking2long
Well-Known Member
First time poster, long time lurker. Just got off the phone with the warranity folks in Illinois and they're sending me a replacement. Great, I waited four weeks before I called. Didn't think they would replace because I didn't have the actual reciept, just pay pal statement that did not show a discription. Guess they actually trusted a pot head. I would recommend their products to anyone. They work and evidently they stand behind the warranty, even if not purchased from an approved dealer/distributor.
Great, I waited four weeks before I called. Didn't think they would replace because I didn't have the actual reciept, just pay pal statement that did not show a discription. Guess they actually trusted a pot head. I would recommend their products to anyone. They work and evidently they stand behind the warranty, even if not purchased from an approved dealer/distributor.
biojuggernaut
Snob
How could I fit this with a 14female gong attachment? Could I use the rubber bumper from my supreme to fit on there?
tetrahydrocannabinol
Member
somehippie said:
How does you being a collage student justify your bickering?
With my WISPR I fill it with butane, fill the hearb chamber(about 1/3), turn it on and that's it, no "tricks".
I get around 10 to 20 minutes of enjoyment and every other week i boil the hearb chamber in hot water to rinse out the "goo".
I wont waste my fingers commenting on your other "claims" and "opinions".
somehippie
Member
tetrahydrocannabinol said:
excuse me but...what are you talking about? lol. The iolite is what needed the "tricks" to work how I wanted it to. Not the wispr. When I say I vape 4-7times a day, I mean 4-7 full bowls, 10-15hits each bowl. I hope this clarifies, because that actually IS a lot of use per day; therefore justifying my bickering.
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and as for max, I'm getting mixed signals from ya, buddy. I hope you were just clarifying my post for other readers, and not purposely quoting me out of context. I loved my iolite, it just didn't work the way I wanted it to. The wispr nearly perfects my "style". All it needs now is digital temp control. haha.
I'm still waiting on the Wispr-cases to come out. those should be awesome.
max
Out to lunch
Pretty much everything I posted consisted of opinions that differed from yours. It would have been more informative on your part if you'd stressed 'opinion' in your posting and not made it seem so absolute. Your heavy use of a portable certainly factors into your disappointment with the iolite. A lot of people, including me, don't need any tricks, or an optimizer, with the iolite. Once again, as our rules page says, we don't like to see one person's opinion, especially when the opinion is weighted by higher than average usage, stated in a way that makes a vape seem like it's just not gonna do the job. Most portables don't get that kind of heavy use, and the review isn't accurate if you leave that out. Your 4 line review wasn't thorough enough to warrant a claim of "pitiful". Sorry, but FC requires a little more of members than some other forums do.
photokographer
Active Member
@Somehippie
Yeah dude, you should really consider looking into a stronger unit, something along the lines of a zap or Pd if you vape that regularly. That being said I have not used the Wispr so I can't attest to it's abilities, but the iolite is something that us a great product for what it's supposed to be used for (portability/secretiveness)
not as a powerhouse
@max, yeah, the guys here really care about what they do, and do it right that's my favorite part about FC
Yeah dude, you should really consider looking into a stronger unit, something along the lines of a zap or Pd if you vape that regularly. That being said I have not used the Wispr so I can't attest to it's abilities, but the iolite is something that us a great product for what it's supposed to be used for (portability/secretiveness)
not as a powerhouse
@max, yeah, the guys here really care about what they do, and do it right
that's my favorite part about FC
Vitolo
Vaporist
I owned a couple of Iolites for a long time, and although I don't list them as my regular vapes, I do have a respect for them.
I tried the optimizer, and found that the extra mass required a couple seconds of extra heating, and also I felt that the herb had better airflow without it.
I still own Iolites, and I take one out for a spin once or twice a week.
Appearance aside.. (It has all been said)
I find the Wispr to function about the same as the Iolite.
The Wispr has a larger chamber, but I get denser hits from both of my old Iolites.
I tasted a funny bitter taste with the Wispr, even after a week of use... especially when I got a thick hit.
Just for fun I did a "1st hit" after a heatup on a local patients Iolite, to show how good it hits.
Touch to view
I tried the optimizer, and found that the extra mass required a couple seconds of extra heating, and also I felt that the herb had better airflow without it.
I still own Iolites, and I take one out for a spin once or twice a week.
Appearance aside.. (It has all been said)
I find the Wispr to function about the same as the Iolite.
The Wispr has a larger chamber, but I get denser hits from both of my old Iolites.
I tasted a funny bitter taste with the Wispr, even after a week of use... especially when I got a thick hit.
Just for fun I did a "1st hit" after a heatup on a local patients Iolite, to show how good it hits.
Touch to view
veganvapor
Member
Gonzo said:
I have a question. I have never vaped before, and I quit smoking 2 years ago. Since then though, due to my lifestyle I tend to drink in order to relax in the late evenings, not exactly a healthy habit at all. I am wanting to purchase a nice portable device.
For me, portability is key, so I am looking at the iolite or the WISPR. Now, my question is for those who own both. The Iolite is obviously quick cheaper these days, but I am willing to invest the money for a superior product. If your iolite and your WISPR are sitting next to one another, do you ever even think to pick up the iolite? If I am going to invest $150 in an iolite, and the WISPR is really only $100 more, but a superior product and experience, then I would go with the WISPR. If the difference in the two is minuscule then I see no point in picking up the WISPR over the iolite. I am speaking of performance levels only.
I appreciate any insight. Thank you.
I would say the two are almost the same. If you dont mind batteries I would recommend the solo though(I know this isnt the solo thread) I find that it packs way more of a punch and is easier to maintain. The problem is that if you have no outlet you are in a bit of a pickle.
charliedontsurf
Medical
veganvapor said:
Eh, kind of poking my head where it doesn't belong, but you might want to consider other portables such as the MFLB and Solo as well. Both can be had for similar prices to the Iolite or significantly less than the Wispr. I've never used the Wispr, but most reviewer's seem to conclude it's an evolution of the old principle, which in my opinion was never all that impressive, and it's always-on conduction nature makes it inherently a little wasteful if left to idle for long periods. If you can get the newest m-105 Solo, which people are reporting is a trouble free series, then I think it really annihilates my old Iolite in terms of performance, vapor production, style and user friendliness. Its adjustable heat temperature is something no Iolite-offspring can boast, and it's something I make use of every time, starting at lower temperatures to preserve flavor and then ramping it up to get the most of the material as the bowl goes on.
veganvapor
Member
I looked at the solo, as well as several other options. My preference is an all in one unit. I don't wan't batteries fumbling around, I vape nicotine, I already have that in my life. Toting around glass mouth pieces is not an option either.
It boils down to the iolite or the wispr in my eyes. I'm not looking for a volcano style lung buster, just a mellow blaze once or twice in the evenings and something that can be pulled from the glove compartment for a quick fix at a bbq or something of the sort.
Gonzo, do you or have you owned an iolite? What are your thoughts on the difference?
Vitolo, why is it that you love the iolite so much more? I'm guessing that you have the second revision of that device which actually works.
It boils down to the iolite or the wispr in my eyes. I'm not looking for a volcano style lung buster, just a mellow blaze once or twice in the evenings and something that can be pulled from the glove compartment for a quick fix at a bbq or something of the sort.
Gonzo, do you or have you owned an iolite? What are your thoughts on the difference?
Vitolo, why is it that you love the iolite so much more? I'm guessing that you have the second revision of that device which actually works.
veganvapor
Member
Maybe I should also add that this will be my primary device for vaporizing. I'm an all in one kind of person. I want something that can be used daily, and can be used as I wish, and where I wish. Which is why I have narrowed it down to the Iolite's.
The launch box looks interesting, but with $10 in parts I could likely reproduce that thing, I already have nickel wire for coiling since I make my own atomizers for vaping nic.
After browsing the web I have come to the realization that the $114.00 iolite on amazon is the V1 and not the v2. The v2 can only be had for a minimum $199.00... This somewhat changes things.
The WISPR is coming closer and closer to hitting my mailbox in the near future.
The launch box looks interesting, but with $10 in parts I could likely reproduce that thing, I already have nickel wire for coiling since I make my own atomizers for vaping nic.
After browsing the web I have come to the realization that the $114.00 iolite on amazon is the V1 and not the v2. The v2 can only be had for a minimum $199.00... This somewhat changes things.
The WISPR is coming closer and closer to hitting my mailbox in the near future.
Gonzo
Slightly Stoopid
I have never tried the original but have a buddy who owns both. I was in the same situation as you veganvapor, I couldn't decide between the original Iolite or the WISPR. In the end I chose the WISPR because of the reports I read on this site. I have never second guessed my decision since I received the unit. It has functioned perfectly since it arrived and up until I got my Underdog this was my daily driver.