The Third Eye

[Elluzion]

Does anyone feel as if they have a "third eye" when they vape? I feel one inbetween my other eyes and it feels kind of like a sunken nebula trying to expand.

What are your personal opinions on marijuana and defining your "third eye"?

In my opinion, marijuana is a personal tool that I use to expand my third eye and explore the subconscious realm around us that we are normally blind to

<3

 

[crawdad]

expand your eye or perhaps just clear the lens? its an unlocking of doors we already have. im pretty vaped right now and i dont think my lens is completely clear right now, so i'll check back later. it proabbaly wanting to focus somehwere other than this thread. i think that point is worthy of posting at least.

 

[aero18]

I've got a few... here and there.

 

[AGBeer]

Damn, I always thought my 3rd eye was put away when I pulled my pants back up.



I need to get seriously vaked and come revisit this thread

 

[Nosferatu]

Oh god thank you for posting this thread. I have a whole theory on how not just CANNABIS but all ENTHEOGENS are the key to seeing with your third eye. All to a different extent. I mean all plant psychedelics, no man made drugs. I believe every natural psychedelic(from DMT to shrooms to salvia to cannabis, etc..) all do the same thing, but to a different extent. They let you leave your body(to an extent, all the way and you would be dead) and see into the "spirit realm" or "universal consciousness" or "use your 6th senth" or "whatever you wanna call this mystical state we all feel in dreams and de ja vu and nostalgia. (and with pychedelics)

I think its also a direct link to how they say we are using only 11% of our brain. Entheogens remove the blocks we have in our head that make us only care and focus and understand physical survival and dominance. I'd say weed lets you use about 5-10% more or so. I obviously cant put numbers on this I'm just trying to make what I understand understandable. Shrooms probably around 50% or so when you are getting to or at the point of not knowing who you are. Just experiencing the one moment. and DMT like almost 100% where you have no recollection or care of the physical world and are experncing...who knows...whats really going on maybe? To me weed and shrooms and and salvia and all that give me the exact same feeling in the end, they disconnected my consciousness from my ego, all to a different extent and in a different way. Why do you think weed makes you smarter, don't you guys feel like weed lets you perceive from a deeper state, catching vibes and emotions you would normally see right past. No one weed can make you a little physically unmotivated or "not care" about as many physical things in the world. Not to mention all these plant drugs make you laugh because a change of consciousness is funny to the mind. Well not if your past the point of being with your physical ego.

I think shit like alcohol and man made drugs brings you the opposite way, it not only shuts your third eye completely, but starts dulling some of your physical senses. thats why they usually make you more social and physically "happy", while plant drugs aren't exactly physically social.

This is the same concept as meditation and the same place as lucid dreams. Monks try to meditate and forget the past and bias and problems and experience the moment for what it is, seeing purely, no longer biased by having an ego, a 1 dimensional viewpoint. When ypou are born and die the brain releases a large amount of DMT, does this mean this "state" is a real place, another dimension, heaven and hell?

Who knows, but I feel it, people I know feel and understand it, and for some fucking reason the tools put on this earth to let humans transcend the physical illusion have all been labeled drugs and psychedelics and made highly illegal. But by who? What is the government and what exactly are they up to? Thats why I'm a pothead and I will spread the truth of our plant helpers and hope in my life to see enough pepple stop and say "Wait, who the fuck are these people dragging us in the wrong direction in almost every way, and why are they trying to cover up and destroy humanities connection with the mystical." What do they have planned for us?

 

[MG23]

Oh god thank you for posting this thread. I have a whole theory on how not just CANNABIS but all ENTHEOGENS are the key to seeing with your third eye. All to a different extent. I mean all plant psychedelics, no man made drugs. I believe every natural psychedelic(from DMT to shrooms to salvia to cannabis, etc..) all do the same thing, but to a different extent. They let you leave your body(to an extent, all the way and you would be dead) and see into the "spirit realm" or "universal consciousness" or "use your 6th senth" or "whatever you wanna call this mystical state we all feel in dreams and de ja vu and nostalgia. (and with pychedelics)

I think its also a direct link to how they say we are using only 11% of our brain. Entheogens remove the blocks we have in our head that make us only care and focus and understand physical survival and dominance. I'd say weed lets you use about 5-10% more or so. I obviously cant put numbers on this I'm just trying to make what I understand understandable. Shrooms probably around 50% or so when you are getting to or at the point of not knowing who you are. Just experiencing the one moment. and DMT like almost 100% where you have no recollection or care of the physical world and are experncing...who knows...whats really going on maybe? To me weed and shrooms and and salvia and all that give me the exact same feeling in the end, they disconnected my consciousness from my ego, all to a different extent and in a different way.

This is the same concept as meditation and the same place as lucid dreams. Monks try to meditate and forget the past and bias and problems and experience the moment for what it is, seeing purely, no longer biased by having an ego, a 1 dimensional viewpoint. When ypou are born and die the brain releases a large amount of DMT, does this mean this "state" is a real place, another dimension, heaven and hell?

Who knows, but I feel it, people I know feel and understand it, and for some fucking reason the tools put on this earth to let humans transcend the physical illusion have all been labeled drugs and psychedelics and made highly illegal. But by who? What is the government and what exactly are they up to? Thats why I'm a pothead and I will spread the truth of our plant helpers and hope in my life to see enough pepple stop and say "Wait, who the fuck are these people dragging us in the wrong direction in almost every way, and why are they trying to cover up and destroy humanities connection with the mystical." What do they have planned for us?

Amen.

 

[Elluzion]

Oh god thank you for posting this thread. I have a whole theory on how not just CANNABIS but all ENTHEOGENS are the key to seeing with your third eye. All to a different extent. I mean all plant psychedelics, no man made drugs. I believe every natural psychedelic(from DMT to shrooms to salvia to cannabis, etc..) all do the same thing, but to a different extent. They let you leave your body(to an extent, all the way and you would be dead) and see into the "spirit realm" or "universal consciousness" or "use your 6th senth" or "whatever you wanna call this mystical state we all feel in dreams and de ja vu and nostalgia. (and with pychedelics)

I think its also a direct link to how they say we are using only 11% of our brain. Entheogens remove the blocks we have in our head that make us only care and focus and understand physical survival and dominance. I'd say weed lets you use about 5-10% more or so. I obviously cant put numbers on this I'm just trying to make what I understand understandable. Shrooms probably around 50% or so when you are getting to or at the point of not knowing who you are. Just experiencing the one moment. and DMT like almost 100% where you have no recollection or care of the physical world and are experncing...who knows...whats really going on maybe? To me weed and shrooms and and salvia and all that give me the exact same feeling in the end, they disconnected my consciousness from my ego, all to a different extent and in a different way.

This is the same concept as meditation and the same place as lucid dreams. Monks try to meditate and forget the past and bias and problems and experience the moment for what it is, seeing purely, no longer biased by having an ego, a 1 dimensional viewpoint. When ypou are born and die the brain releases a large amount of DMT, does this mean this "state" is a real place, another dimension, heaven and hell?

Who knows, but I feel it, people I know feel and understand it, and for some fucking reason the tools put on this earth to let humans transcend the physical illusion have all been labeled drugs and psychedelics and made highly illegal. But by who? What is the government and what exactly are they up to? Thats why I'm a pothead and I will spread the truth of our plant helpers and hope in my life to see enough pepple stop and say "Wait, who the fuck are these people dragging us in the wrong direction in almost every way, and why are they trying to cover up and destroy humanities connection with the mystical." What do they have planned for us?

My pleasure for posting this thread, and thank YOU for sharing your opinion that is some crazy stuff. I can't wait to try shrooms in the future and other psychedelics.

Yeah I totally agree with the fact that we were given these "tools" aka drugs, but they are illegal and we are told not to use them, even though they are the only true things that help make death not so "scary." Just from pot, I have had crazy spiritually uplifting highs that were scary, but they were amazing.

 

[Nosferatu]

Sorry I kept adding to my post all medicated after you guys replied. But yeah I agree, pot is really all we need to get this understanding before we die. I weep for those who are against it till death, drinking their alcohol and smoking cigs, de-evolving.

 

[MG23]

Marijuana made me believe in a higher power again, and has changed my life for the better in nearly every way. This is a miracle plant for delving into spirituality and deeper conciousness, especially for introverted people. It's too bad I never have anyone to talk to about this kind of thing around here.

 

[Nosferatu]

The earthly governments and authorities are established by Satan. The Bible says Satan is the Father of this world, when he was cast from heaven down to Earth. It is his influence that has caused so much suffering. Rebeling against authority that is goverened by Satan, I will rebel sometimes, yes, without a guilty conscience with God. I am no troublemaker by any means, and I pay Caesar's things to Caesar.

In the case of cannabis, of course I rebel. It's my medicine. I would also rebel if they said I could not worship God anymore. I'm not a blind follower of people in this world, and I pray about everything that is important to me. I have prayed about these subjects, and I know God is not displeased with me by using a plant as medicine.

God may not be all loving, but I do like the scripture that says, "God is love." I know he is also fair and just in his judgments and punishments. He takes everything into account because he knows everything about us.

Vicki posted this in the Christianity and Weed Forum. http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=109043#p109043

Makes me think, is this honestly unexplainable physical world we all live in where scientist are always trying to explain a spec called earth in this endless universe, the real deal?. It sounds crazy, but I think a more believable description is that our physical lives are the illusion, and I'm not religous but to get Bible'y isnt Vicki right, maybe this sooo pleasureful physical life is the devils big illusion,and god secretly put these mind expanding plants to let us see past it. I heard theory's of time being an illusion by the devil to manipualte all the people, and this goes along with that also. Removing the biased ego that remembers this "timeline", you see clearly, and its GREAT. If your physically and mentally able I recommend you ingest some MEP's.

 

[Blackthoven]

I think its also a direct link to how they say we are using only 11% of our brain

I just wanted to point out that we don't only use 11% of our brain, or whatever number it is, I've heard quite a few different numbers ranging from about 8-11%. However, If I cut out 89% of your brain, you would definitely not being doing very much ^.^

You do use your whole brain, what they mean by that is one particular conscious activity does not fully stimulate your entire brain, which in essence just means certain parts of your brains are more active than others during particular events or processes but your whole brain does contribute to common functions in nearly everything you do.

Anyway! I know that's kinda besides your point, just felt like throwing it out there ^.^

But by no means does that take away from your post! Very interesting thoughts, and for the most part I agree. Especially about natural psychedelics, if you haven't already you should read "Food of the Gods", it has some pretty radical views! I really think if more people took psychedelic drugs the world would be a better place

 

[Nosferatu]

Thanks its good to know that now I shouldnt use that metraphor maybe. I learned in my Pcchology course actually that we have some things in our brain that function to block out everything thats not essential to our survival. Animals are the same, alot of animals seek out pychedelics look it up. Maybe entheogens serve to disable that block in the brain, each to a different extent, thats my best guess.

 

[MM..Food]

Thanks its good to know that now I shouldnt use that metraphor maybe. I learned in my Pcchology course actually that we have some things in our brain that function to block out everything thats not essential to our survival. Animals are the same, alot of animals seek out pychedelics look it up. Maybe entheogens serve to disable that block in the brain, each to a different extent, thats my best guess.

Have you read the essay by Aldous Huxley called "The Doors of Perception"? In it he goes over the theory that the brain blocks the flow of things that aren't essential to our survival. I suggest you read it! It is fairly short.

Also I've heard/read that the brain uses more than 11% of its power when measured by EEG but I feel as if our mind(not brain) only uses 11% of its capabilities. I hope this makes sense...

 

[Nosferatu]

Thanks its good to know that now I shouldnt use that metraphor maybe. I learned in my Pcchology course actually that we have some things in our brain that function to block out everything thats not essential to our survival. Animals are the same, alot of animals seek out pychedelics look it up. Maybe entheogens serve to disable that block in the brain, each to a different extent, thats my best guess.

Have you read the essay by Aldous Huxley called "The Doors of Perception"? In it he goes over the theory that the brain blocks the flow of things that aren't essential to our survival. I suggest you read it! It is fairly short.

Also I've heard/read that the brain uses more than 11% of its power when measured by EEG but I feel as if our mind(not brain) only uses 11% of its capabilities. I hope this makes sense...

It makes perfect sense, you just put the right words on it finnally. And yeah I have that book maybe thats where I heard the brain blocks thing, not in school...

I just found this cool article that kind of reflects what I'm trying to say. http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_spirit6.shtml

 

[crawdad]

i find the insights being put in here very interesting and revealing. i do not sense specific supernatural spirits on any of my trips or other "affairs of the mind", quite contrary i have find myself much more connected to the natural world and able to be more aware of it. its very spiritual yet devoid of a god-like presence, i see higher orders but none that are all encompassing. (not looking for a debate, i respect all views entirely, just sharing mine).

i really like what carl sagan had to say about it as well (here).

most memorable sessions for me are when attention to detail is at a highest to prepare for the most intense trip, its doable on mary.

the writings from saliva trips i find most intriguing, i read them on occasion and identify greatly. green goddess awaits...

 

[Deadhead101]

That Carl Sagan essay is great.

All this thought leads me to ponder: why in the fuck is Marijuana still illegal? How long until people open up their eyes to the truth?

I want other people to be able to experience what all of us have experienced. MJ is like a sweet secret that only a handful of people know about.

I feel that, if it is legalized, many people who would otherwise overlook it may actually give it a shot.

And yet alcohol still continues to be perfectly legal. How society's values are completely tangled up!

 

[Elluzion]

The earthly governments and authorities are established by Satan. The Bible says Satan is the Father of this world, when he was cast from heaven down to Earth. It is his influence that has caused so much suffering. Rebeling against authority that is goverened by Satan, I will rebel sometimes, yes, without a guilty conscience with God. I am no troublemaker by any means, and I pay Caesar's things to Caesar.

In the case of cannabis, of course I rebel. It's my medicine. I would also rebel if they said I could not worship God anymore. I'm not a blind follower of people in this world, and I pray about everything that is important to me. I have prayed about these subjects, and I know God is not displeased with me by using a plant as medicine.

God may not be all loving, but I do like the scripture that says, "God is love." I know he is also fair and just in his judgments and punishments. He takes everything into account because he knows everything about us.

Vicki posted this in the Christianity and Weed Forum. http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=109043#p109043

Makes me think, is this honestly unexplainable physical world we all live in where scientist are always trying to explain a spec called earth in this endless universe, the real deal?. It sounds crazy, but I think a more believable description is that our physical lives are the illusion, and I'm not religous but to get Bible'y isnt Vicki right, maybe this sooo pleasureful physical life is the devils big illusion,and god secretly put these mind expanding plants to let us see past it. I heard theory's of time being an illusion by the devil to manipualte all the people, and this goes along with that also. Removing the biased ego that remembers this "timeline", you see clearly, and its GREAT. If your physically and mentally able I recommend you ingest some MEP's.

This sounds like some MATRIX stuff haha. Our physical lives are an ELLUZION who would have thought. What if that is true though, that freaks me out. What if drugs are the only way to see the real world, and most people are blind by it, but the real underlying truth is it's there, and ignorance isn't always bliss

 

[crawdad]

all this talk, reminds me just how amazing our minds our...regardless of truth we sure can come up with some amazing and often beautiful ideas on reality and all things concerned.

with all the mind expanding and emergence that i have experienced thus far i feel almost 99.9% certain that its unlikely we will ever entirely "figure it out" but it does not stop me from reaching further, seems somewhat built into my genes to want to know more. i try to imagine a fish in a 10 gallon tank trying to understand where the bubbles come from.

 

[Plotinus]

You guys inspired me to reread. http://mescaline.com/huxley.htm

Holds up pretty well all these years later. Huxley is one of those guys on my short list of "famous people I would like to have a long conversation with."

 

[stuartambient]

I'm trying to shut my third eye off . Vaping isn't working to stop it but I wouldn't say it's aiding it either. Interesting discussion though. I'm no longer in favor for myself of anything beyond cannabis. Been there done that.

 

[Nosferatu]

I'm trying to shut my third eye off . Vaping isn't working to stop it but I wouldn't say it's aiding it either. Interesting discussion though. I'm no longer in favor for myself of anything beyond cannabis. Been there done that.

I bet anything the vaping is whats maintaining it. You hear alot of how stoners feel trapped in their head, over analyzing everything. I know from experience vaping keeps my third eye open so to speak, its been like a year strait now for me without a break, and I need one. Getting high now does hardly anything but make me feel super clear minded and my thoughts are racing and analyzing and then usually forgetting. And my physical senses and emotions are amplified ALOT. After doing salvia alot and shrooms a while ago, vaping feels EXACTLY like a mild extension of each.

 

[stuartambient]

I'm trying to shut my third eye off . Vaping isn't working to stop it but I wouldn't say it's aiding it either. Interesting discussion though. I'm no longer in favor for myself of anything beyond cannabis. Been there done that.

I bet anything the vaping is whats maintaining it. You hear alot of how stoners feel trapped in their head, over analyzing everything. I know from experience vaping keeps my third eye open so to speak, its been like a year strait now for me without a break, and I need one. Getting high now does hardly anything but make me feel super clear minded and my thoughts are racing and analyzing and then usually forgetting. And my physical senses and emotions are amplified ALOT. After doing salvia alot and shrooms a while ago, vaping feels EXACTLY like a mild extension of each.

Well maybe, just maybe , since I don't remember that far back but I did become more aware of it especially in the early days of cannabis for me. A few one hit wonders, and not talking about bong hits but early one I remember we hanging out in the dark , had my eyes closed and as I looked up into the middle there I see these people in a building , at their windows and they were throwing water , buckets of water down on me. Every time the water hit my head, as I was seeing it in this 3rd eye cyclops things my head just washed over with this rush of energy.

The point is though there was a long gap between tokes though at some point in my life. I had sworn off it for 20 years and still noticed things there.
SA

 

[sunsett70]

i don't know about 3rd eye but i've sometimes had wonderful insight with the herb. anyway, i had been reading up on etheogens and meditation and what not. last night, i took a hit on da buddha and meditated first time, with deep dantian breathing (i have been practicing because i used to be a real shallow breather and vaporising made me think about my breathing process - why i feel so good during vaporising could partially be due to the deep, long breathes i take) and i saw the 'truth'. that what i thought i 'needed' were just leaves floating on a river of water, ready to be plucked or left to float by. maybe no "i" too, just a universe of running river water and leaves.

 

[lwien]

The Third Eye was the name of the very first "head" shop I ever went into back in the late 60's. First thing that came to mind when I read the title of this thread. Thanks for the memories, Elluzion.

Back in the 60's and 70's, I must have dropped some sort of psychedics every fucking weekend for about 5 years, be it acid, mescaline or peyote but I never bought into all of the metaphysical crap. I just wanted to get high..........that is until one night. I'll never forget it. It was like yesterday. I was at a friends party out in Malibu. He had a house right on the sand. Nice. Anyway, it was getting a bit loud so I went outside with his two labs, Melvin and Harry. . I was just standing out there by myself with the two dogs. It was about 12 at night............clear sky, full moon. And then, all of a sudden, there where white lines connecting the moon to the dogs, to the stars, to the house, to me, etc etc etc. and it became graphically clear that we were all interconnected and it was that interconnection that allowed all of this to exist. It wasn't just a thought I had, but in fact something that I actually saw. I was very knowledgable about what hallucinations are, but this was different than anything that I ever experienced before. Those interconnecting lines were as clear as the computer screen I'm looking at now. It was definitely one of those "lightbulb" moments that presented itself in stark clarity. I wasn't even thinking about this concept before those lines appeared. I was just standing there looking at the moon, and then............bingo. There they were.

Gave the dogs a big hug and walked back inside with a big shit eating grin on my face. Didn't say a word to anyone. Just had a comfortable feeling that all was right with the world.

 

[crawdad]

awesome lwien, i had a very similar experience involving the moon myself, was full and was just after midnight. i even made some drawings a few days later i was so pumped about it. its rare i get there but when i do its something you do remember like it was yesterday.