Discontinued The Sublimator

[Tweek]

He actually gives way more than that a month, to his charity. A far better use of ones cash than buying $10 grand in herb monthly. I love the stuff, but no normal human needs that much pot.

But hey, it's his cash to flash.

And billionaires can go broke as well...I can't recall her name, but some woman in the states blew her entire fortune on a winery.

 

[shredhead]

He actually gives way more than that a month, to his charity. A far better use of ones cash than buying $10 grand in herb monthly. I love the stuff, but no normal human needs that much pot.

But hey, it's his cash to flash.

And billionaires can go broke as well...I can't recall her name, but some woman in the states blew her entire fortune on a winery.

There was a guy in Canada, pretty sure around here, who won the lottery twice and went broke twice....some people just aren't good with money....

Anywho, I was wondering how often you guys with apollo heaters do double decker/dabs through your heater? Because I have found the UFO to be a work horse for double deckers. And all you would need is to throw the Sputnik ontop ur set up(after a heat up) and rip some dabs.....just an idea for you guys....cuz the enailer is a lot more money for that heavy concentrate use. Just thinking of your guys' heaters as it seems they may be getting bogged down due to plant matter in sub oil or under purged oil....not sure tho...but I'm sayin if your atomizer is already heated up from seshin' flowers it would be a 2min heat up of the Sputnik and you'd be dabbin...

 

[Tweek]

There was a guy in Canada, pretty sure around here, who won the lottery twice and went broke twice....some people just aren't good with money....

Anywho, I was wondering how often you guys with apollo heaters do double decker/dabs through your heater? Because I have found the UFO to be a work horse for double deckers. And all you would need is to throw the Sputnik ontop ur set up(after a heat up) and rip some dabs.....just an idea for you guys....cuz the enailer is a lot more money for that heavy concentrate use. Just thinking of your guys' heaters as it seems they may be getting bogged down due to plant matter in sub oil or under purged oil....not sure tho...but I'm sayin if your atomizer is already heated up from seshin' flowers it would be a 2min heat up of the Sputnik and you'd be dabbin...

I do double deckers with my unit and it's a blast. I still think they have to sort out the issue and fix it, as that is one of the selling points. That being said, you have a good idea about the UFO...but after spending the amount of money I already have on this unit, I just can't see it as a good investment right now. Feels like I am throwing my money toward solving a problem that is up to the folks at Sublimator to solve for us.

 

[Tommii]

Double deckers work well on the enail. Love it

 

[Tweek]

Double deckers work well on the enail. Love it

Do you find a difference between herb in the regular apollo vs the nail?

 

[shredhead]

Do you find a difference between herb in the regular apollo vs the nail?

You would think there would be....because otherwise there would only be the enail.....you would think....

 

[Tommii]

Do you find a difference between herb in the regular apollo vs the nail?

I find no difference with each

 

[shredhead]

I find no difference with each

So bassically they enailer is king then, if it can do herbs the same as the apollo.....

 

[Tommii]

So bassically they enailer is king then, if it can do herbs the same as the apollo.....

The point is that you're not suppose to seperate the atomizer and heating unit while in use.

 

[HWW4000]

The answer I got when I asked the question a few weeks back was the enail vaporizes and the Apollo sublimates. But I don't really believe that and the only difference I can see is the air does not immediately hit the herb with the Apollo. So my best guess is probably a little easier to combust with the enail. Kinda of wish I had gone with the enail and launch tube but the Apollo is awesome.

 

[eLiguL]

The answer I got when I asked the question a few weeks back was the enail vaporizes and the Apollo sublimates. But I don't really believe that and the only difference I can see is the air does not immediately hit the herb with the Apollo. So my best guess is probably a little easier to combust with the enail. Kinda of wish I had gone with the enail and launch tube but the Apollo is awesome.

Ya I think that was me who replied to you. For what its worth heres where I got the info from.

It was in the about section in this link:

Bubbleman trying out the new Sublimator TiTan E-Nailator at the Treating Yourself Expo 2013 in Toronto.
The E-Nailator is an amazing device because is serves two purposes. First, it is an electrically powered, domeless titanium nail designed to vaporise concentrates. It does not require the use of a butane or propane torch therefore greatly enhancing safety. It is simple to use and doesn't require manipulating delicate and fragile glass domes. Second it is a herb vaporising device that can be used with most 14-18mm compatible water tools or similar devices. Indeed, herbs can be vaporised, not sublimated, in its chamber. This is great for those who prefer the different aromas and milder effects procured by vaporizing .

The E-Nailator is also THE unit if you want to vaporize the sublimate from your Sublimator. This air and friction collected extract is the cleanest form of extraction possible as no solvents or liquids are used.

 

[HWW4000]

Sorry I didn't mean any offense by it. I remember you saying you were relaying enrico's words but I feel like most of the magic happens in the atomizer that's all. The air through the Apollo having to take a longer path through the atomizer due to the vortex may have an important effect on the vapor I'm not sure. With the enail it seems like the air shoots straight through the atomizer.

 

[Tweek]

Sorry I didn't mean any offense by it. I remember you saying you were relaying enrico's words but I feel like most of the magic happens in the atomizer that's all. The air through the Apollo having to take a longer path through the atomizer due to the vortex may have an important effect on the vapor I'm not sure. With the enail it seems like the air shoots straight through the atomizer.

Without opening the whole again, I think it's safe to say that they both vaporize. Yes, I know there are those who believe it's more, but I am speaking for the group that believes the magic is in the heated down stem.

From what I understood in the beginning, outside of the sublimation vs vaporization debate, is that there is much more heat hitting the bowl on the nail. I would love to try them side by side, but @Tommii seems to be indicating that there is little difference that he notices. His sublimate/oil collection doesn't seem to be hurting either, if you look at the photos of his reclaimer.

So with that in mind, I am starting to wish I had purchased the nail as well.

 

[Tommii]

Without opening the whole again, I think it's safe to say that they both vaporize. Yes, I know there are those who believe it's more, but I am speaking for the group that believes the magic is in the heated down stem.

From what I understood in the beginning, outside of the sublimation vs vaporization debate, is that there is much more heat hitting the bowl on the nail. I would love to try them side by side, but @Tommii seems to be indicating that there is little difference that he notices. His sublimate/oil collection doesn't seem to be hurting either, if you look at the photos of his reclaimer.

So with that in mind, I am starting to wish I had purchased the nail as well.

They're pretty nifty. Enrico has one that's 5 years old and still working without replacement

 

[HWW4000]

That's awesome I wonder what kind of maintance he does on his. Has yours died or dropped at all tommii? I can't remember.

 

[Tommii]

That's awesome I wonder what kind of maintance he does on his. Has yours died or dropped at all tommii? I can't remember.

It has worn in, but other than that, it works perfect

 

[Tweek]

That's awesome I wonder what kind of maintance he does on his. Has yours died or dropped at all tommii? I can't remember.

It has worn in, but other than that, it works perfect

We are talking about the nail, right? You did have some troubles with the apollo?

 

[HWW4000]

I think I've figured out what my next investment shall be. But I was referring to the nail. I figured he really didn't use the Apollo except when he was running them both.

 

[Tommii]

We are talking about the nail, right? You did have some troubles with the apollo?

My apollo died, but I'm getting a replacement

 

[shredhead]

I'm sure there's a reason there are 2 heaters. Otherwise I would think there would only be one electric sublimator....

 

[Tweek]

I'm sure there's a reason there are 2 heaters. Otherwise I would think there would only be one electric sublimator....

Depends on how you view the device...if you see the process as being more about the down stem, than one is all we need. If you are from the group that feels there is more to it, then yes, there is a reason for two models.

Hopefully they can one day find a way to just merge it into one device. Too many options IMO.

 

[shredhead]

Depends on how you view the device...if you see the process as being more about the down stem, than one is all we need. If you are from the group that feels there is more to it, then yes, there is a reason for two models.

Hopefully they can one day find a way to just merge it into one device. Too many options IMO.

I feel like it may be the way the holes are positioned on the side on the Apollo and UFO and they way the holes are straight down on the nailer that they may be different or perform different. I can also see how that could differ what's happening to the herb between devices. And why didn't they just put the same bottom on the nailer as the apollo? Making it one system? There must be minute differences that only enrico or his team can chime in on.

 

[Tweek]

I feel like it may be the way the holes are positioned on the side on the Apollo and UFO and they way the holes are straight down on the nailer that they may be different or perform different. I can also see how that could differ what's happening to the herb between devices. And why didn't they just put the same bottom on the nailer as the apollo? Making it one system? There must be minute differences that only enrico or his team can chime in on.

He did mention there were more holes on the nail and more heat in the bowl. They can chime in for sure..., I would be interested in hearing more...but what I have heard so far, doesn't indicate to me much of a difference in effect. Perhaps design, but those with the nail, seem to be able to get just as baked by oil & herb, as those of us who own the Apollo or UFO. So considering this, I would of preferred the nail, due to its longevity. Seems like the apollo may be adversely affected by dabbing.

 

[Willeh]

I thought I'd chime in about my sub. I never had a KAW, but my 'combustion point' used to be almost a full half turn down the dial, and it's moved itself all the way up to less than a quarter turn. It can still get hot enough to glow and do a burn off I think. I'm definitely wanting to switch to the nail if there is no difference in how even and quickly it finishes the herb. I find my apollo does an amazing job with herb and for double deckers. I'd consider replacing with a Ti Apollo if that's an option when my current apollo poops out, if it continues to decline. However, as it stands the Ti nail is seeming like the more attractive option even though I rarely dab.

 

[CheeseSandwich]

I contacted planetvape yesterday just to ask about the warranty procedure for when my apollo does drop too low. They basically said let them know whenever i wanted to send it. They will test it and send a new one. I am also going to try and hold out for the Ti apollo as well though. At 38 watts today, if left at max for a lil while it will go back up to 40 watts. I'm still leaning towards grabbing a sputnik to hold me over if need be. I don't want to experience a subless life again...EVER.