Justpassedu
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I'll pm you or text next week , maybe we can meet up. I'm ready to give it a try. I may have some new toys for you to try also. Crazy work week and weddings all weekend , except Monday.
Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)
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AJS
Calm Consistency
Uhhhhhhhhh, there was something on the Progress page about 10% off i believe....and I checked the progress page like two days ago....and now it's gone. Not the discount, but the entire page. Not sure what this means, hopefully he's trying to update it for some Zion news? I would E-Mail RBT and see if there are any coupon codes laying around for the Milaana.
Edit, just searched the forum and found the coupon code was for July....Might still be going though?
'thanksfc'
Justpassedu
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Thanks AJS , it did not work , no biggie as i am not in a rush on this 1. I was just looking for something that provides some huge , quick , lung busting hits for a before bed time snack while watching some tv. I like my hopper for that but i gotta use it at its highest heat setting and taste is not so great , it does get the job done though.
Mondays are good for me. I look fwd to it. Mi will work for some quick, tasty, big sleepy time hits.
AJS
Calm Consistency
I'm sure bravesst will convince you. It's so similar to the lsv, really is. If I got the GH, it would be to regulate lower-med temps ... The Milaana is my cloud chaser. Does it way too well. Got a hit so massive yesterday I could feel the vapor like it was smoke. Couldn't believe it. Decided to push it further and combusted next hit. Haha. I had waited like 20 minutes and the unit cooled down and forgot I had that massive hit previously. I would've been surprised if it didn't combust at that point .. Just wasn't paying attention to the state of my bowl because it had been so long between hits. No discoloration and a slight smokey smell, but that'll go away after a few uses. First combustion with this unit since I got it nearly 2 months ago. Oh well! Live and learn yadda yadda
I push the limit sometimes, and if I'm not paying attn, I can char -- the state before combustion can be sustained. I find the unit to recover immediately. I make sure I pull the stem right away and at least stir, if not dump. A really combusted load tends to combust again. In my business we call that a rekindle. A quick char will usually come back after a stir and taste OK.
KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
I stop at 3.4V, sometimes 3.2V when I really push them, but it requires quite some trigger time then.
Samsung (some) yes, Panasonic nope. You need 20A continuous discharge, IMR-like cells.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
It still shocks me how low you go, but then again it also shocks me how you get 30+ hits a bowl, that really explained your battery life
I swap out around 3.8 give or take, have two yellow LGs and one brown LG in rotation (brown is slower to charge, retains charge better, discharges slower, and can run just a touch faster/hotter) along with some old light blue samsung 25Rs that don't see much use
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I only got down to 3.2 once by mistake. Once it gets below 3.8 or so it is harder to get good enough vapor. Kero is satisfied with much smaller hits than we are, and that is how he gets so many. I don't think I have ever gotten more than 7 or 8 from a .1g bowl unless after flavor, but I usually finish it in 4 or so as I have said elsewhere.
Unless I have a very special strain the flavor is much less important to me than getting big hits. This may be partially due to only having one or two strains available from a "dealer" rather than a dispensary so many fewer strains.
Unless I have a very special strain the flavor is much less important to me than getting big hits. This may be partially due to only having one or two strains available from a "dealer" rather than a dispensary so many fewer strains.
I usually pull mine at 3.7.
As for RBT supplied gongs, i doubt it will happen. RBT doesn't actually support or suggest you use his vapes with water as he doesn't like the stress it puts on the female joint. I wouldn't be surprised if many glue failures are due to leaving it on a water piece.
IIRC The faq covers this.
Im extremely careful when i use it with water. I only have the mi attached when I'm taking a hit and it's always supported by my hand. I do think stress on the glass joint is the most likely way a mi will break.
And for those waiting, I'll be putting together the guide for the power supply this weekend.
As for RBT supplied gongs, i doubt it will happen. RBT doesn't actually support or suggest you use his vapes with water as he doesn't like the stress it puts on the female joint. I wouldn't be surprised if many glue failures are due to leaving it on a water piece.
IIRC The faq covers this.
Im extremely careful when i use it with water. I only have the mi attached when I'm taking a hit and it's always supported by my hand. I do think stress on the glass joint is the most likely way a mi will break.
And for those waiting, I'll be putting together the guide for the power supply this weekend.
virtualpurple
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I think he may be referring to the silicone mouthpiece extender for the hopper, which fits it like a condom basically, but it also stretches the mouthpiece out and makes it too loose for the hopper.
Skywalker OG
MAGA
Been using the Milana since it was first put up for sale on PV and it's my favorite portable vape now. The Grasshopper used to be but I've been through 3 replacement bodies already. Never had any issues with the Milana except a funny taste that eventually went away. Don't have to feather the button anymore and can get amazing hits just by using my breath to control the heat.
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beiberhole69
Sexual Maven
I had my best session ever with the Milaana this morning. Might finally be getting the hang of it. The advice to use a basket screen about half to 3/4 in with the basket as a bowl has helped, I think (packing about half as much). Keeping the same grind but refraining from stirring and tamping after a hit or two. Didn't really like full nug and hand torn very much.
Not getting many bowls per battery. Two basically and the 2nd is kind of meh. Last one said 75% on the nitecore charger when I threw it on for a new one. I think I've gotten it as low as mid 30s once... usually low 60s or 50s though trying to make a habit of switching it out sooner.
Not getting many bowls per battery. Two basically and the 2nd is kind of meh. Last one said 75% on the nitecore charger when I threw it on for a new one. I think I've gotten it as low as mid 30s once... usually low 60s or 50s though trying to make a habit of switching it out sooner.
I'm in unload everything but what I use mode. Still keeping 4 Milaanas and my small army of batteries, 3 chargers, all short stems, one joda short, Alan's m2m wood adapter, couple of long stems, one DDave, one PVFS, and that's about it. I still have a few odds and ends lying around, but alas VAS still exists.
Will Zion soothe the savage beast we all call V A S
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Will Zion soothe the savage beast we all call V A S
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Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yeah that battery life sounds unusually very low to me, but if you're getting good results keep at it dude, glad you're getting the hang of it
beiberhole69
Sexual Maven
Just got three good ones in over the course of a couple hrs and the bat was at 49% when I popped it in the thing.
Question: is it important to keep the Mi on a vertical plane with the battery? I think I read it was better for heat efficiency, which makes sense, but how vital to a good hit is it?
Starting to find my rhythm with the pre and feather on the button. Getting several gratifying clouds bursting with flavor and little to no charring, but finding it difficult to really cash a bowl (out of fear of combusting). Which is fine. Either my edibles will be a little stronger next go or save for hard times or w/e.
pandaphysics
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im at the same place as bieberhole. I have an easier time cashing it when i go through water, but i also almost always over do it a bit on a couple hits (charring or close to it).
AJS
Calm Consistency
I hit it left, right, upside down, underwater (okay maybe not), point being, doesn't really matter. Never noticed a difference. Hot air rises, that's about all I can say about hitting it upright .. But .. Good thing our lungs can manipulate the physical properties of gasses and air
You'll slowly learn the line of where "cashing a bowl" is. I used to like to push it dark (I can get it black no problem 90% of the time it I wanted too), but I've been getting such good results from it that I rarely find the need once the flavor is gone.
I can tell you this for sure. Back to back hits is much easier to cash a load than waiting for 10 mins or so, just way way more consistent.
Despite your hot unit, you're doing great man!
I get over 4 bowls a battery without any concern. You'll get there, and if you can't, maybe contact rbt, just use the residual heat more. Really , once the vape is up to temp, you can let go of the throttle and just ride it out with a slow inhale for about 7 seconds. The throttle is just to get to temp, not necessarily to fully achieve a hit all the way through. The heater holds heat quite nicely even when not active.
Glad to hear of the improvements man! Keep it up and keep us updated!
I hit it left, right, upside down, underwater (okay maybe not), point being, doesn't really matter. Never noticed a difference. Hot air rises, that's about all I can say about hitting it upright .. But .. Good thing our lungs can manipulate the physical properties of gasses and air
You'll slowly learn the line of where "cashing a bowl" is. I used to like to push it dark (I can get it black no problem 90% of the time it I wanted too), but I've been getting such good results from it that I rarely find the need once the flavor is gone.
I can tell you this for sure. Back to back hits is much easier to cash a load than waiting for 10 mins or so, just way way more consistent.
Despite your hot unit, you're doing great man!
I get over 4 bowls a battery without any concern. You'll get there, and if you can't, maybe contact rbt, just use the residual heat more. Really , once the vape is up to temp, you can let go of the throttle and just ride it out with a slow inhale for about 7 seconds. The throttle is just to get to temp, not necessarily to fully achieve a hit all the way through. The heater holds heat quite nicely even when not active.
Glad to hear of the improvements man! Keep it up and keep us updated!
The experienced Mi users are all coming to the same conclusions.
I can hit it upside down, backwards, while doing a handstand... The only thing you can't do is talk (a good hit takes some dedicated attn).
I can cash a load as black as I want to, especially with a drop of stirring, but a non stop session is much easier to control.
Some sessions I ride the button harder than others, IE: if I tamped too hard or packed too deep. In that case, maybe I'll swap battery in 3 sessions, but I believe it is usually 4. I normally work with nice size bowls so 5 is not happening, bedside the fact I like staying ahead of he batttery.
I love timing the button release just right on a hot bowl, lots of "button free" draw time this way = more battery life.
Milaana makes everything better.
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Hey Guys, I find the milaana does better with smaller water pieces so you aren't tempted to white wall something like the FC-UFO. It can be done but it takes precise feathering. I prefer a smaller water piece like a PWTA or Hydratube, or one of my smallest bubblers (D-020 or smaller). In fact 90% of my milaana hits are just through a cheap little 14-18 m2m and a Chinese PWTA. I find the vapor rough on my throat compared to the Mighty. But through a little water it's awesome! Then you just go by second count, and MOST of your hit will be received AFTER you release the button so don't wait for you to feel it in your throat before releasing, just "Feel the milaana" It's usually a 3-5 second heat up, then I draw with the button held for another 3-5 seconds depending on battery charge, at this point I release but continue to draw, this next 5 seconds of draw with the heater hot but the button not pressed is when most of my vapor enters the PWTA.
I do grind but I only suck the bowl in like a straw and barely do any tamping at all, just put a dab on top.
I will say I cheat a bit to avoid combustion though, I put a tiny flattened piece of shatter, wax, or rosin on the top, and that makes your oily bowl almost Combustion-Proof
Just make sure to take that first hit inverted to melt it and set the bowl then you are good to go!
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KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
It still shocks me how low you go, but then again it also shocks me how you get 30+ hits a bowl, that really explained your battery life
Bah some people report getting only 4 bowls per charge when I get 3, so it's not too far off.
But you know, those IMR cells can really go to 2.5V without suffering any damage. Of course it's best practice to follow the 20-80 rule (don't discharge lower than 20% capacity left and charge only to 80%) but honestly, that something I do with my pricey high-discharge rate Li-Po packs for RC hobby, I don't care for those cheap 18650. I mean you can get them around $5 now, it's not worth the hassle.
I'm convinced you guys are all under using your cells, but I can understand if you want to enjoy the luxury of only using "full and fresh" packs out of the charger, it's more comfortable.
It's not really harder, the technique is the same, you just need to increase your counts. At the end of my 3rd session I need to almost double the trigger time. But it delivers the same, you just need to slow down and be more patient.
But again, those cells are cheap and if you prefer to swap early I can understand.
That was my initial hypothesis too but some members proved that it's not the case as there has been adhesive failures while using the device dry.
b0
Cloudy...
Damn guys, was expecting to have my Milaana today and in fact that's what the tracking says, that the expected delivery it's today... But the sad reality is that the postal service in Spain it's the shittiest one ever and it has been stuck in customs since MONDAY!! 
Let my Milaana go!!
Let my Milaana go!!
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I had two failures, no water. I did use a "stain" on both (cherry / coffee) that might have compromised the glue.
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