Discontinued The RBT Milaana (unregulated single 18650)

[AJS]

Had such a nice 14mm sesh. Barely been using it lately. Got 12 or so nice clouds, rotating stem every hit led to super even browning through the sesh with great flavor until I started bumping up the temp towards the end.

 

[Jill NYC]

Sounds like your battery cover may have came apart during shipping. Ideally the way this should be setup is the top piece should be the brass screw followed by a toothed copper washer, then the large copper battery cover, then a silver washer, then the guitar pick, then another silver washer.

Were you able to get this working? I've been on the road an haven't been able to check into FC very much over the past few days.

Thanks @cannabis.pro for looking out for me! There were two (silver) ones and I think they were just extras. So far, all good with it! Seems to working well.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks @cannabis.pro for looking out for me! There were two (silver) ones and I think they were just extras. So far, all good with it! Seems to working well.
Although quick question- what is the point of the guitar pick? I took it off b/c is was getting in my way.

The pick is your safety off switch, if you want to put in your pocket or bag without worry of button accidentally getting pressed, it prevents the battery and copper lid connection so button does nothing. If you don't use it that way out and about then you don't really need it, just don't keep a battery stored in it where it could be pressed without knowledge and stay on

 

[Jill NYC]

The pick is your safety off switch, if you want to put in your pocket or bag without worry of button accidentally getting pressed, it prevents the battery and copper lid connection so button does nothing. If you don't use it that way out and about then you don't really need it, just don't keep a battery stored in it where it could be pressed without knowledge and stay on

Thanks @Shit Snacks . I was behind a few days, and asked that question before catching up. I see someone talked about it a few posts back. I was trying to edit my comment, but you read too fast! Thanks again for explanation.

 

[AJS]

Been quiet around here lately ... hope that's because the new Milaana owners are out there enjoying their units?!

 

[HD Springer]

Well I've been using my new Milaana and having to get a handle on this new found power that my 2nd Mi has. At least compared to my first version. And at first I honestly liked my first version better. Its easier to regulate the heat and keep it cool enough to maintain a tasty stem.

Now that I've had 2-3 weeks with this version of the Mi I'm finding that I can keep my temps low enough to maintain my flavor profile almost to the very last hit. All depends on how greedy I get. Plus my battery seems to last me longer. Which makes perfect sense.

I vaped a big load in my stem last night. My screen is located where the actual stem meets the 18mm part. So it's a fairly large amount I loaded. I stirred 1 time. And the flavor lasted until my last couple hits. And the abv was a dark coffee color. I was still getting vapor from it when I'd had enough and dumped it.

Seriously love the RBT line up. That cat makes a goddamn good vaporizer!

 

[btka]

got my milaana today...

have some problems with it...

when I received it today I loaded one of my batteries and pushed the botton but my milaana was not getting hot...
then I remembered that @cannabis.pro recommended to clean the copper part where rbt logo is placed (triangel) the part which makes contact with your battery... but this doesn really helped...

sometimes it works now and sometimes not... the only possible thing which comes to my mind is the contact in the bottom of the mi, I have heard sometimes you have to push it out... but I do not think that is the problem, because when I insert the battery I can feel the resistance of the spring...

when it worked (two half bowls) the clouds were not as dense and big as I can achieve with my stickybrick maxx and my gh... but I was not able to practise more so that may have to do with the learning involved with mastering the mi... maybe my heater is also running cooler (only speculation) or something other is not right...

hope somebody can help me to indentify my problem and solve it...

 

[flotntoke]

got my milaana today...

have some problems with it...

when I received it today I loaded one of my batteries and pushed the botton but my milaana was not getting hot...
then I remembered that @cannabis.pro recommended to clean the copper part where rbt logo is placed (triangel) the part which makes contact with your battery... but this doesn really helped...

sometimes it works now and sometimes not... the only possible thing which comes to my mind is the contact in the bottom of the mi, I have heard sometimes you have to push it out... but I do not think that is the problem, because when I insert the battery I can feel the resistance of the spring...

when it worked (two half bowls) the clouds were not as dense and big as I can achieve with my stickybrick maxx and my gh... but I was not able to practise more so that may have to do with the learning involved with mastering the mi... maybe my heater is also running cooler (only speculation) or something other is not right...

hope somebody can help me to indentify my problem and solve it...

Is battery in upside down? + should be on bottom, - on top at copper piece

If you've cleaned copper top, make sure it is very shiny where dimple contacts battery. A little fine sandpaper will clean it entirely and quickly.

Have you cleaned the little threaded stem that goes to the copper top? Not too hard to do with steel wool.

Contact at the bottom (when it looses springiness) can be a problem. Best if you're battery sticks out a bit past the battery hole. If not, find something to get down in there and pull it up some. I use a dental tool with a right angle, but a paperclip bent out with one hook and pulled on with pliers works great.

Any one of these, or a couple, could be the source of your problem. It is usually one of these things if you're getting poor results or intermittent problems. It won't work at all if there is a more serious issue (like broken connection or heater failure).

 

[Cheesequake]

I've always used positive side up in mine and never had an issue.

 

[btka]

Is battery in upside down? + should be on bottom, - on top at copper piece

If you've cleaned copper top, make sure it is very shiny where dimple contacts battery. A little fine sandpaper will clean it entirely and quickly.

Have you cleaned the little threaded stem that goes to the copper top? Not too hard to do with steel wool.

Contact at the bottom (when it looses springiness) can be a problem. Best if you're battery sticks out a bit past the battery hole. If not, find something to get down in there and pull it up some. I use a dental tool with a right angle, but a paperclip bent out with one hook and pulled on with pliers works great.



Any one of these, or a couple, could be the source of your problem. It is usually one of these things if you're getting poor results or intermittent problems. It won't work at all if there is a more serious issue (like broken connection or heater failure).

when it works the positive side of the battery is on the top (copper top)... but in the manual (picture negative side of the battery is in contact with the copper top)

do not have sandpaper at hand so I used a rubber as @cannabis.pro recommended in a earlier post...
hmmm... used it now and it worked for the first pull... second pull no heat... could it be the button...

also have done this: "Contact at the bottom (when it looses springiness) can be a problem. Best if you're battery sticks out a bit past the battery hole. If not, find something to get down in there and pull it up some. I use a dental tool with a right angle, but a paperclip bent out with one hook and pulled on with pliers works great." but it did not help...

 

[flotntoke]

I've always used positive side up in mine and never had an issue.

You're of course welcome to use any of your vapes however you like, but proper battery orientation in the Mi is + down, - up. Find it here in this thread, on RBT site, or in the directions that come with the Mi.

when it works the positive side of the battery is on the top (copper top)... but in the manual (picture negative side of the battery is in contact with the copper top)

do not have sandpaper at hand so I used a rubber as @cannabis.pro recommended in a earlier post...
hmmm... used it now and it worked for the first pull... second pull no heat... could it be the button...

Do you have any Brillo or steel wool for cleaning pots & pans? Even one of those green scrubbies could do the trick. Clean things to shiny copper (like a brand new penny if familiar). Just make sure you rinse off any soap that may be in these.

Could be the button, or contact in it, but don't recall seeing any failures there unless they are terminal.

Get that dimple, the post (and the little washer while you're at it) super clean and shiny and make sure your battery is sticking up a little past its hole.

Since it is "working" with plus side up, sounds like there may be a problem with the springy piece in the bottom that needs to be pulled up some. FWIW, I think reduced performance (lower heating temps) is a symptom of battery being upside down (+ up, - down). But, think that could allow for more contact, creating a circuit (and heat) - even if intermittent or lower temp/less voltage.

 

[Shit Snacks]

How is the battery @btka ? Sorry that sucks. I doubt copper would need to be cleaned when you got it brand new a recent one from @cannabis.pro ... Could be a compressed contact, but only thing I can really think of is battery or a potential short in shipping? Been a while since that has happened though

 

[turk]

...sounds like a battery to me too...it's a really simple design.

 

[btka]

You're of course welcome to use any of your vapes however you like, but proper battery orientation in the Mi is + down, - up. Find it here in this thread, on RBT site, or in the directions that come with the Mi.



Do you have any Brillo or steel wool for cleaning pots & pans? Even one of those green scrubbies could do the trick. Clean things to shiny copper (like a brand new penny if familiar). Just make sure you rinse off any soap that may be in these.

Could be the button, or contact in it, but don't recall seeing any failures there unless they are terminal.

Get that dimple, the post (and the little washer while you're at it) super clean and shiny and make sure your battery is sticking up a little past its hole.

Since it is "working" with plus side up, sounds like there may be a problem with the springy piece in the bottom that needs to be pulled up some. FWIW, I think reduced performance (lower heating temps) is a symptom of battery being upside down (+ up, - down). But, think that could allow for more contact, creating a circuit (and heat) - even if intermittent or lower temp/less voltage.

did every thing you mentioned and it is not generating heat...

 

[flotntoke]

How is the battery @btka ? Sorry that sucks. I doubt copper would need to be cleaned when you got it brand new a recent one from @cannabis.pro ... Could be a compressed contact, but only thing I can really think of is battery or a potential short in shipping? Been a while since that has happened though

Apologies to @btka ! I was under the assumption that this was a used unit picked up on classifieds or somewhere. Yeah.... if it's new, shouldn't be any issues with anything I discussed above. Those would all usually be issues of a used Mi.

Sounds like it could be bad battery.

 

[btka]

How is the battery @btka ? Sorry that sucks. I doubt copper would need to be cleaned when you got it brand new a recent one from @cannabis.pro ... Could be a compressed contact, but only thing I can really think of is battery or a potential short in shipping? Been a while since that has happened though

I have bought two new batteries and charged them in my charger.. (one battery is the sony vtc6 and the other one is the lg hg2 - tried both....) got my mi two to four times to generate heat....

I have noticed I have to push the button very strong in then it works..

 

[xlr8shun]

just thought i would throw this out there.. lemon (or lime) juice cleans copper really well also. i assume its the citric acid.

sorry @btka for your luck

 

[flotntoke]

That is odd! Both those batts do fine in mine. And, sounds kind of doubtful they're both bad if from reliable source? They are, right?

Dimple in your copper top is getting good contact with battery? It should push it down a little. Sometimes things can get a little screwy at the post/thumbscrew and leave the copper top dimple not hitting battery enough. When I've had this issue I had a bad stack order of safety pick, washer, and copper top. But, was easy to see from the side that contact here was weak. Copper top was totally parallel with top of Mi, instead of sloping down to it as it usually is.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I have bought two new batteries and charged them in my charger.. (one battery is the sony vtc6 and the other one is the lg hg2 - tried both....) got my mi two to four times to generate heat....

I have noticed I have to push the button very strong in then it works..

That makes me think it's just adjusting to the button, possible yours could be a little stiff, but you may just need to get used to how to push it? It does need a solid push in all the way, you should get a feel for it, see if that helps you get some consistency since batteries are new

 

[btka]

seems to work now...

will experiment more...

thanks for helping me...

 

[turk]

..on mine I have to be careful with too much heat...especially is battery is recently charged...

 

[Cheesequake]

You're of course welcome to use any of your vapes however you like, but proper battery orientation in the Mi is + down, - up. Find it here in this thread, on RBT site, or in the directions that come with the Mi.



Do you have any Brillo or steel wool for cleaning pots & pans? Even one of those green scrubbies could do the trick. Clean things to shiny copper (like a brand new penny if familiar). Just make sure you rinse off any soap that may be in these.

Could be the button, or contact in it, but don't recall seeing any failures there unless they are terminal.

Get that dimple, the post (and the little washer while you're at it) super clean and shiny and make sure your battery is sticking up a little past its hole.

Since it is "working" with plus side up, sounds like there may be a problem with the springy piece in the bottom that needs to be pulled up some. FWIW, I think reduced performance (lower heating temps) is a symptom of battery being upside down (+ up, - down). But, think that could allow for more contact, creating a circuit (and heat) - even if intermittent or lower temp/less voltage.

All I've ever seen is it doesn't matter either way.

 

[flotntoke]

All I've ever seen is it doesn't matter either way.

Glad to hear it doesn't matter on yours. On my old V1 it drops temp. So much so that when I accidentally put one in upside down (+ up/- down) I can tell on first hit or two it's not where it should be on a fresh batt. After a few times doing this (while stoned of course!), I know to check this and fix it right away.

Pretty sure others have reported the same.

Why? I sure as hell have no idea! But, correct is correct. Everything else is something else.

 

[KeroZen]

Well it does matter in order to prevent grinding your cell shrinkwrap and creating a hazardous short. You can rip the wrap around the negative but not on the positive. So it's best in all your vapes to grind on the negative rather than the positive.

For @btka's problem, it might well be just the trigger that needs to be broken in.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Glad to hear it doesn't matter on yours. On my old V1 it drops temp. So much so that when I accidentally put one in upside down (+ up/- down) I can tell on first hit or two it's not where it should be on a fresh batt. After a few times doing this (while stoned of course!), I know to check this and fix it right away.

Pretty sure others have reported the same.

Why? I sure as hell have no idea! But, correct is correct. Everything else is something else.

This is actually the first I'm hearing of anyone experiencing any difference in performance based on battery direction. As Kero said, the only reason it says negative up is to protect battery wrapping. The MVT however is a different story