Sorry, you lost me here. He has tried, and doesn't like, MFLB. Right? He has never tried Pax, right? He likes something he's never tried MUCH better. That's how I read it, now and then. I also think BDV did the same?
If he's never tried the unit he likes so much better, I'm not sure how much faith I should put in that advice. Useful in that it's probably honest, but I'm with BDV in not basing my decisions on it.
What am I missing here? TIA.
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I'm not speaking for him, but I read it like you do. That anything is better. I'm not saying that. I think the MFLB has a definite place just on its batteries (1-hitter in public bathrooms etc) and while I have serious issues with it, it does work (I found I had to use the plastic straw and look through it until the light had been on for a couple secs) and it is economical (like a flamed-up 1-hitter) but it can combust, and it has the battery issues when used as a portable.
I will point out, however, that much of what I"m reading about the MFLB is dependent on it being attached to a plug, which in my mind is no longer a portable vape, just a very small electrical tool, and unless the MFLB is being compared as a portable, as it comes from the factory, it isn't a real comparison. I could say my Q is better than a plugged-in MFLB (I don't know, haven't tried plugged-in MFLB) and that would be more fair a comparison. Plugged vs Plugged. Or Battery vs Battery. Not Plugged vs Battery.
I tend to agree that one who has never tried something can't use it in a comparison. But I think he was just saying MFLB - worst - and if something is the worst, that means by definition all else is better in comparison... Hey, I doubt anyone would give it much thought; I was just saying how I read what he said - not that I agree (I don't agree that MFLB=worst; I have many worse myself) (I don't think MFLB is best for me with certain exceptions, where it is best, like as a 1-hitter etc in a bar bathroom for example), so don't think I'm picking sides because I don't intend to do so. I never sold my MFLB even if other electric portables get my attention. Currently the question isn't so much MFLB vs (pick-a-portable) as Solo vs Pax, as neither of those need to be tethered to a plug to get rave reviews. MFLB, as it comes shipped, is not an issue-free device. Many have problems using it. Lots give up before figuring out how to use it, reading suggests. Many just love it and would never switch, and if a watch isn't broken, etc... But at the same time, if the watch isn't working, why throw another $$$ into a wall-plug hoping that will fix the broken watch.
Now, having said all that, my personal preference is the Pax over the LB for reasons previously stated, with LB having the advantage in certain cases, and frankly Solo having some advantages too. Actually, I am pretty sure my feeling is they are all better than combusting, they all have the potential to work, and they all have probably fairly serious shortcomings (glass, combust, stick or burn too much). I use the tool that seems right for the situation and LB fits in there well. But more limited, and not what I would recommend as a portable given what else is out there. But it is a tool to have, and I have such a tool, in my arsenal of tricks. I just really rarely use or need it given other tools in my bag o' tricks.
Anyhow, not trying to beat a dead horse, but I agree with you that if I recommend a Porsche to you without having ever evan sat in one, you would be well suited to ignore me. The poster was simply calling his LB experience horrible like a Yugo I guess. That's all I was trying to say my interpretation was. No deal to me. But the comparison of plugged-in vs portable is not a fair comparison in my mind. Folks are considering the LB for stealth, and plugging something in to me removes a bit of the portable stealth concept. Bring on the MFLB as shipped and compare it to Pax as shipped. That's the comparison I think is legitimate. Otherwise, make sure those who are in the market are aware that the MFLB getting all the great reviews is often plugged into a wall for variable temperatures (like Pax has 3 of) or so you don't combust (which Pax can't). People should be aware that at least some of the 'power' folks find in the MFLB is at the end of a plug (desk model in my mind at that point).
So, let's let it die I guess on what someone not us meant by his inane remark that "That which I don't own is better" because without having walked a mile in our vaporized trail, one can't say that. I think we both agree on that.