The JET waterpipe

[quantumaviator]

Quantum... before all of this gets deleted anyway, this isn't the attitude many (including myself, trying to interject some positive into the thread earlier) responds to. Passion is respected, but respect is earned. You sell a fine product, and obviously stand behind it but you can't come off as 'everyone who disagrees is 100% wrong all the time'. A lot of research goes into a product, but if in the end the users have suggestions to benefit not only themselves, but you in a more popular/diversified product, respond like you give a shit what they think.

What users have given suggestions on here? It's all speculation not based in any sort of fact, from people who have never USED the JET. Everyone who "disagrees" has to be wrong 100% of the time if they haven't used it!
I love hearing feedback and suggestions from family members(JET owners) in fact after every order receipt we get, I reply thanking them and and always end my reply with "please don't hesistate to ask any questions or anything, we love feedback!"
That's probably the most important thing to us, is to hear feedback from OWNERS. If it wasn't we wouldn't be in business!

 

[momofthegoons]

I am going to step in here and tell everyone who has their knickers in a twist to go take a toke and calm down before things start getting ugly and people pay the consequences. And I mean it.

Quantumaviator, you used Adobewan as your quote and while he is a member of good standing here, I would not consider him a senior member and per his own admission:

Keep in mind, my glass experience is limited to mere months and I regularly turn to more experienced FC Jedi for guidance, but for what little it's worth, the JET gets the Adobewan "bump".

This is not to say his review is inaccurate. I'm only saying that this would not be the "senior member" or "experienced member" I would have chosen to use as my tester. If you go through the Glass threads, you will see certain names pop up who are very well versed in glass and vapor. I would start looking there for your tester. I would also take to heart what the people in this thread are trying to say to you.

 

[quantumaviator]

Honestly all I need to know is that high diffusion removes the taste from vapor. All that stacking might be cool for smoking, but we're a vape community, so the game's different. I just bought a small oil rig that I can use my vape with. One of the things I enjoy the most about it is the small water filtration. Just enough to cool the vapors down, not so much that it strips the flavors. Stacking matters to a point when you vape. Congrats on the innovation of the diffusion disk tree, but it's of very little use to this community, it seems.

Of course! That's why we offer so many levels of diffusion to customize it to an individuals needs and uses. We have the X3 original diffuser, this is what you would use to retain the most vapor flavor. Then we have the JTX5 upgraded diffuser that makes the JET 2-3X as smooth as the X3. Now we have the JET stacks, each one added will slighly more than double the smoothness and percolation.
That's what we love about the JET, is how versatile it is!

Of course we take to heart what OWNERS and people that are interested in the JET would like to see. We don't however take to heart people that are not suggesting anything and just talking shit on a product they have never used. As far as Adobewon goes his description says well known member and he is I believe, the only owner of a JET that belongs to fuckcombustion.com We will be getting one into someones hands on here when we do our contest, that hopefully will be approved!

 

[momofthegoons]

Of course we take to heart what OWNERS and people that are interested in the JET would like to see. We don't however take to heart people that are not suggesting anything and just talking shit on a product they have never used. As far as Adobewon goes his description says well known member and he is I believe, the only owner of a JET that belongs to fuckcombustion.com We will be getting one into someones hands on here when we do our contest, that hopefully will be approved!

His description says "well known member" because he put it there, just like you put your web address under your username.

(Adobewan, please do not feel I am dismissing your expertise or opinion in any way.)

And as to his being the only one on the forum who owns one; fair enough. However, the other owners are mostly smokers, right? All the members on this thread have basically said to you is that they feel there is too much diffusion for their liking for vaping. They have based this on the diffusion pictures posted by you.

Also know that the attitude received in a conversation is the attitude given back. There is no reason to come out of the gate swinging just because there are people on here questioning your product.

 

[treeman]

Gotta say man, I like your pipe, always been interested in it. As a young college student who has broken more than just a few glass bongs I've always been hesitant to invest in properly high end glass with nice diffusion. Even though I hate dry vapor that irritates my lungs.
I kept a close eye on this thread but lost interest when you gave it all the "mathematically perfect hit every time" which is impossible, because some people like SliM take hits that would knock an elephant down for weeks. And others need bags because their lungs are already damaged from pre-existing medical conditions they can't make great use of direct draw. When you start talking about how this is the perfect bong for all these reasons I feel it kinda' came off like you were trying to play us for fools. I get that your fond of your product, and hear only good things from those that have used it. But I reckon if you'd chilled out a bit with the marketing you wouldn't have had such a hostile introduction here.
I like your stacker discs, think its good innovation, I'm now wondering if they'd fit in my inline tube. . .

 

[Adobewan]

His description says "well known member" because he put it there, just like you put your web address under your username.

(Adobewan, please do not feel I am dismissing your expertise or opinion in any way.)

Actually Mom, I didn't put that under my name, nor would I. That appeared after a certain number of likes or something along those lines. I confess, I bristle at the suggestion.

I'll say, with my lack of experience clearly on display here, I've been a bit surprised by some of what I'm reading on FC today.

 

[quantumaviator]

I had to post the the pictures of the new stackable diffusers because I had mentioned them earlier in the thread and was excited to finally post pics of em. Like I said earlier momofthegoons, the JET's diffusion is versatile enough to fit anyones needs wanting to use a vape with a waterpipe.
I come out swinging when people who havent tried the JET make speculations and try to sway others interests in the JET which is how I make a living. Not saying they are intentionally doing it, and I dont intentionally try to sound like a stubborn asshole, it's text there's no inflection or mood to pick up on. I try to get my point across quickly and to the point.

Here's what I mean with the variable diffusion options to choose from,the X-3 which is going to preserve the most flavor, least amount of diffusion

Then we have the X5 which increases smoothness 2-3X

and then we have the JET Stacks:

which offer an insane amount of diffusion

 

[momofthegoons]

Actually Mom, I didn't put that under my name, nor would I.

Adobewan, I apologize. I didn't realize our system did that automatically.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't want more diffusion, I want less. You should consider making an adapter that covers the outer and inner rings, so that only the one in the middle fires. The Jet, as it stands, has a LOT of diffusion that helps smoke, but like I said, diffusion can mess with vapors easier. There's a fine line between cooling your vapors down, and stripping the flavinoids/terps from the vapor. This goes doubly for concentrates, but I don't think that's the purpose of the tube. For reference, here's my little piece. This is what I consider "perfect" or as close as I can get to water filtering without deprecating the taste. Second picture is clearing it.

 

[kushcabbage]

Perfect 2 bubble stack very nice! Is this mflb or the dart? Using the original green rezblock? I'm using it too. I haven't gotten the cranberry color concentrate rezblock yet to try.

 

[max]

I come out swinging when people who havent tried the JET make speculations and try to sway others interests in the JET which is how I make a living. Not saying they are intentionally doing it, and I dont intentionally try to sound like a stubborn asshole, it's text there's no inflection or mood to pick up on. I try to get my point across quickly and to the point.

If you're not careful you'll be swinging out the FC exit door due to collecting too many infractions. You're subject to the same rules as any other member here, and some extra ones due to being a commercial poster. This thread is not your property and you can't dictate what's posted here. I suggest you review the 'Be Nice' section of the rules page in particular.

Being able to freely promote your product on a forum is an opportunity you don't get just anywhere. We've had a few manufacturers here that chose not to follow the rules and they no longer have a membership. I suggest that you stay within the rules and take a more laid back and friendly approach if you want to maintain your posting privileges. And as those automated emails say, 'please do not respond to this message'.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

This is the LB, you can make out the whip on the top left. Yeah this is the regular RezBlock which I think also helps the bubbles stack so well. It gets cloudy after sme trenches but I'm happy with it. Simply washing it out cleans my piece out very well.

 

[natural farmer]

Wow... So much tension in here...

Cool down guys... Some people prefer more diffusion and some less. Look at all those people in the forum loving their DG pieces and Mobius ones, the Dirty Rigos and the Devastators. Don't these super expensive pieces stack up to the sky and are praised and wish-listed by most? I could also mention how much vapor stays on those multiple glass parts and go to waste instead of the lungs... And there are also these who enjoy their vapor everyday from the Infamous 40$ bubbler... Me included for a long time. I am in the happy medium now but would surely love to have a JET pipe (maybe even a little smaller than the short version) with the added flexibility of changing the diffusion at will with a simple attachment! Would love to see how it performs for a couch potato like me sitting and have it bent to reach my mouth (or is it too big for this)... Anyhow everyone has his needs and super great diffusion is one of those needs so @quantumaviator, why don't you cool down your tones for the moment, let everyone here have an opinion and they might be judged too by someone else... And the rest of the FC friends here, lets give the guy a break... He might be strongly deffensive at some times but he also doesn't have to give a test tube to anyone... Adobewan bought one, he loves it with his Pod and that's what matters for the time... I am sure someone else will follow and so on until we all get a good idea... That's what happens with most vapes and glass pieces anyway... I don't see sooo many free pieces going around, do they?
Me, I would be super content if the manufacturer showed us some more vids with more popular vaporizers in different home scenarios (table, couch use etc.) like a Solo or an Underdog or something... Quantumaviator, give us more media, some more tube lengths (won't cost you anything right?) and maybe even a disk with even less diffusion (1x or 2x maybe) and I am sure we will all be happy!

 

[quantumaviator]

I dont have any vids of the JET being vaped! Wish I did, maybe adobewon could? I'll ask again on our reddit and see if anyone can on there! Your right about the diffusion though. All I care about, is getting the most vapor/smoke, with the least amount of discomfort and coughing. This is exactly what the JET does and you can customize your diffusion for more flavor or more comfort. the problem with altering the lengths and sizes is we have to write another program and have another set up for tube production. It takes alot of time so if you want, just take a miter saw and cut that fucker to whatever length you want if you don't wanna wait on us to make one. Thinking we could make a curved mouthpiece for the JET as well, that would be easy and cheap! Like your style natural farmer, keep being a badass!

 

[FrogBoy138]

Wouldn't cutting the tube down void the warranty.

 

[quantumaviator]

I was half way kidding. on the tube it would void it but not on the rest of the JET. We don't really have a guideline for our warranty. The JET is basically indestructible, but if anything breaks or doesn't work, we just ask that you send us a picture and we'll send you out a replacement part. However, if you cut the tube down and fucked it up, we wouldn't send you out a new one. If you used a miter saw like I mentioned earlier, that would work and wouldn't break the tube. That's how we cut or lengths before they get put into the cnc lathe, we get 12 ft lengths of it at a time! So, if you wanted to take the chance and used the right saw, pretty good chance it would work just fine!

Not saying you should, but if you wanted to, it would work if done correctly. In the future, we would like to have more variety of tube length. We just had an email from a guy asking if we could make a 3ft monster tube, haha. So, there's definitely demand for even more options of tube sizes. You guys on here want a smaller tube which could definitely be done. I hope in the future we can design a bubbler version of the JET!

 

[Jeff-K]

Lol, I can't decide on which "that escalated quickly"image to use.

What a bunch of stoners is this? the guy never got a chance in this thread! Quantum, I feel for ya!

Before you start bashing me, re-read the thread... When sober...

 

[quantumaviator]

thanks man, not 100% sure what your trying to say though!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't want more diffusion, I want less. You should consider making an adapter that covers the outer and inner rings, so that only the one in the middle fires. The Jet, as it stands, has a LOT of diffusion that helps smoke, but like I said, diffusion can mess with vapors easier.

Re-quoting this because I didn't see a suitable answer. I don't care for the most diffusion. I want less. Can you make that happen or not? You mentioned being able to adjust diffusion with the tree thing and with an upgraded base for even more but I want less than standard.

 

[Jeff-K]

lol, trying to say that, people in this thread never gave you a real chance. And obviously decided against your product without even trying.

 

[t-dub]

lol, trying to say that, people in this thread never gave you a real chance. And obviously decided against your product without even trying.

Ok dude, with 13 posts here you just go with that attitude, you couldn't be more wrong . . .

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

lol, trying to say that, people in this thread never gave you a real chance. And obviously decided against your product without even trying.

There's enough information on it to draw a conclusion from.

One does not need to experience a brick to the head to know you don't want to get a brick to the head.

 

[Jeff-K]

Re-quoting this because I didn't see a suitable answer. I don't care for the most diffusion. I want less. Can you make that happen or not? You mentioned being able to adjust diffusion with the tree thing and with an upgraded base for even more but I want less than standard.

I have no idea, but my guess is, if you are looking for less diffusion you should not be looking at the gear which obviously had allot of science go into the in's and out's of having as much diffusion as possible.

 

[lwien]

You forfaited all your social skills

And you "forfaited" all of your spelling skills.
---FC's Official Spelling Nazi

 

[momofthegoons]

Ahyeah, you're the one that made me LOL at page 3. You forfaited all your social skills​

JeffK, I am giving you a break since you are new here. Please refrain from continuing this vein of posting. Telling a member that they have "forfeited their social skills" breaks our be nice rule. Please reacquaint yourself with our rules before you post again. You can find them here.

lwien... be nice....