Discontinued The Hookshot Vape

stinkmeaner

Well-Known Member
Like a Vapman taking a hook-shot. A funny thing about their website, it says "Patent Pending", but looks like it's nearly a straight knock off of the Vapman, a less refined on to boot.
 
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spikyvape

Well-Known Member
Yes indeed this can not be compared by the quality of a vapman from the pictures ;)

The patent Pending is indeed funny ;)
 
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stinkmeaner

Well-Known Member
Upon closer inspection it appears that the Hookshot might actually use a better heating system than the Vapman, one that functions more like a heat exchanger and provides conduction and convection properties.

The Vapman has a single layered heating plate while the Hookshot used a double layered heating plate which is very similar to the Lotus vaporizer. The inlet for the air comes in differently, but the heating principle is much the same.

Here is a diagram from their site:


Now here is a diagram from the Lotus thread:

 
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Mckdenton

Well-Known Member
a week or so ago i found this vape and emailed them and invited him here. he said he has put the vape on hold while he handles some business, hopefully he shows. :peace:
 
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stinkmeaner

Well-Known Member
From the looks of the website, diagrams, and the many completed units in the pictures, it would appear that he has put some effort into getting this device going, so it would make sense to change the look away from the Vapman.

The heat exchanger/heating design looks solid, but if he changed the appearance it would gain much more respect, maybe even painting them would help. Because as soon as people see the thing, the first thing that will come to mind is the Vapman.
 
stinkmeaner,
Ug, whether on guitars, victorian homes or vaporizers, down with paint, up with wood grain.

The appearance of the hookshot is kinda kooky right now, but looking at my Lotus, hell, it's pretty funny too. Do we have a schematic of the vapman's bowl to illustrate that the hookshot's is apparently superior?

Great job on finding two new vapes today, 504vape
 
charliedontsurf,

Flappa

Member
Manufacturer
I have the Hookshot and the Vapman and although they are similar I can say that the bowl on the Hookshot is much bigger than the Vapman. It takes me three bowl loads in the Vapman to match one in the Hookshot. The Hookshot delivers much more at once also.The Hookshot takes a little longer to heat up but less time over all.
 
Flappa,
Flappa said:
I have the Hookshot and the Vapman and although they are similar I can say that the bowl on the Hookshot is much bigger than the Vapman. It takes me three bowl loads in the Vapman to match one in the Hookshot. The Hookshot delivers much more at once also.The Hookshot takes a little longer to heat up but less time over all.

Curious claims for a first poster, but if true and unmotivated by immorality, good info. A big bowl is a big plus in my book, the reason the small bowl on my Lotus limits its effectiveness to me as a portable.
 
charliedontsurf,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
Hmmm Flappa... Says Hookshot isn't coming out until the summer. Are you the mfgr by chance??
 
Lo,
"First 100 ordered come w/free jet flame lighter and air tight canister!!! 74 LEFT!"
They could be one of those 26 or an in-person purchaser. I'm not as skeptical as many probably are, mostly because I just want a lighter based, direct-inhalation free vape like the Lotus or Vapman but with a larger bowl, both for convenience and to provide a satisfying, dense hit.

Edit: isn't copper potentially toxic when heated to high temperatures? If the bowl is indeed copper it might be a concern - I think the vapman has its parts covered in gold.
 
charliedontsurf,

cc

Member
Hey, I see there is some banter about the hookshot. I love mine. Don't care squat about the pat. pending thing. Who cares? Ithe only thing it does is work great, clean easily, fit in my pocket. and look cool.:peace:bb
 
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Flappa

Member
Manufacturer
OK, I am the manufacturer/craftsman of the Hookshot. I didn't mention it on my first post because I hadn't gotten the rules from the site for manufacturers. Anyway I would like to address the health concerns about copper at high temps. I knew this was to be my biggest obstacle, but it's a misconception by the public. I of course have done a bit of research on the subject. I first looked all over the web (many hours) to find out about health hazards with heated copper, all I could find was MSDS's that state the fumes are hazardous "at extreme temps". Never did they give a temp. So I contacted a copper forger and they told me they work with copper at cold temps at 600 deg. F and hot temps at 1200 deg. F. They operate under OSHA regs and they are not required to use any ventilation or respirators. Finally, I asked support@welding-advisers.com the question "at what temperature does copper give off harmful fumes, at melting point or below, and if below, than at what temp?" They answered back "fumes are only released above melting temperature". The melting point of copper is 1981 deg. F, vaporizing temps are below 400 deg. F and a jet flame lighter cannot reach coppers melting temps. I have welded/melted copper and have seen the green smoke come from it, that's what you don't want to inhale.

Copper is a natural element essential to human life. IMO the only reason you don't see copper bowls/pipes is because it's second only to silver as a thermal conductor and would be too hot to hold. Ask away bout the Hookshot.
I have offered the staff here at FC a Hookshot to test and review. Flappa
 
Flappa,

Lo

Combustion free since '09
Thanks Flappa! I thought you were mfgr but wasn't sure. Glad you offered one for test/review. Look forward to seeing some reviews.
 
Lo,

darkrom

Great Scott!
I'll be honest flappa, I am not exactly in the portable market right now since I really love my launch box, but now that you are on FC I will actually take the product serious. Good to know it is not simply a direct copy of the vapman as it appeared at first.

I'm interested in reading members reviews and I welcome you to the site.

What is the price you expect to sell it for?
 
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Flappa

Member
Manufacturer
The regular price for the Hookshot now is $129 but its on sale right now for $99.
 
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