The G Pen by Grenco Science

[bad ninja]

I make ounces of high end wax for 4 collectives.

I can't post pics or I would show ya

Looks like moon rocks with craters, but I can make it any consistency I want.
As long as its high quality it will work.

I've been making bho for well over a decade and I wrote the original QWISO tech everyone uses today ten years ago on overgrow.

What type (consistency) of wax do you use?

Here we go.
Most of it looks like my avatar pic

mod note: Please avoid back-to-back posts, use Edit instead. Two more posts merged.

 

[OF]

By the way, my method is from 2 years of trial and error.
I found zero information online about this, as greedy people want to keep this knowledge a secret.
All the bs recipes online will fail.

Interesting. I guess you never found:
https://www.stickyguide.com/forums/196

Here the "greedy people want to keep this knowledge a secret" seem to have not gotten the memo? When G perfected the Omicron cart he thought it was so much better than the best 'juice' solutions (including the ones he sold at the time?) that he published his formulas. Many of us have tried them to differing levels and come back to straight concentrate vapes when we're looking for THC delivered over pretty smoke screens.

To me, diluting the goods down to make them 'deliverable' (and less potent) is going backwards. A necessary compromise if you have to use gear designed for thinner liquids, but there are alternatives. Adding two ml (basically two grams) to half a gram of wax takes the THC from something between 60 and 80% down to the 10 to 15% range. You can always compensate by taking 5 times the number of hits of course, but you most likely didn't start out looking to vape random (hopefully) inert chemicals. Or in many cases to make lots of telltale vapor? OK for some, but not all?

OF

 

[Caligula]

@OF on my end, it would be to camouflage what im actually trying to intake. Such as when I take the family to an amusement park, etc. Believe me, its not for want of a different delivery system in hopes that it will work better. I've tried the edible route, but I find the variables too great for a situation like in my hypothetical example above. Also, I'd much prefer people to think I'm using a mod to vape e juice than try to sneak hits out of a Omicron or something. This especially goes for when inlaws are involved.

 

[bad ninja]

Nope I didn't find any useful tutorials at all.
How the hell would "sticky guide" come up in a google search for thc /pg ejuice blends?
My Google fu is good but c'mon.
Did you see how may bs recipes call glycerine tincture e juice?
That's a bad coil failure waiting to happen.
Try it.
Fill a tank and depend on it for a day

I'm an OG extractor. Been at this for decades.
If you want straight concentrates then by all means go for it.... Use a good RBA and strong battery and there is no need for juice at all.

However I prefer a stealthier way to travel and vape my concentrates and there is no need to ruin tanks or have bad experiences.
I fill a tank.
Vape and go.
So what if the only compromise for me is to take an extra puff.
I actually like the taste of my concentrates
This method works every time.

Bonus: one thing I learned about skillets, and nail is this-
We loose out on a lot as they are very inefficient.
Just dab wax on a clean coil and this becomes very obvious to anyone.

 

[MileHighLife]

Why do you say they are inefficient? Other than vapor condensing in water/rig I thought a nail or skillet was one of the more efficient ways to dab

 

[BLAZING OG]

1. Screw a cart onto the unit
2. Hold cart with one hand and body of battery in the other.
3. Gently wiggle and pull. B careful as there are wires so don't pull to hard.

It's a pressed fit, and the top connector and button will separate from the battery.

Check YouTube for some vids.

@BLAZING OG liquidizer makes a proprietary blend that you can add oil to and vape from a bottom coil. Check the thread out, might be viable? The last few pages talk about it a fair bit?

Thanks, I will check it out, heard good things.

Glad you asked
I use either straight peg400 or 70% peg400 and 30% pg.

1. Place wax in a small glass container.
2. Heat with double boiler method until wax begins to melt.
3. Add peg ( or peg/pg) at a ratio of 2 ml to .5 grams of wax.
You can make it stronger but it will clog wicks and you don't need too... Trust me.
4. Gently stir while heating until everything is mixed well.
5. Load a tank or drip away.



The liquidizer liquid should work its the same thing just waaaayy overpriced
Peg is dirt cheap.

Thats why I love FC great place to share the wealth of knowledge.

By the way, my method is from 2 years of trial and error.
I found zero information online about this, as greedy people want to keep this knowledge a secret.
All the bs recipes online will fail.
The only one I see even close is the liquidizer, and they either use too many glycols in their mix or they intentionally mislead you with their label.

This isn't a stab at liquidizer
Their mix should work fine, it's just expensive.

1. Screw a cart onto the unit
2. Hold cart with one hand and body of battery in the other.
3. Gently wiggle and pull. B careful as there are wires so don't pull to hard.

It's a pressed fit, and the top connector and button will separate from the battery.

Check YouTube for some vids.

The w



It will not separate

I make my own wax so I don't know what " liquid gold" is.

But BHO or quality QWISO works fine and does not separate.

Polyfil carts suck.
They clog fast and are inconsistent

I Use clearomizers or high end tanks or a dripping atty for thc juices

And the wax doesn't come out of solution and solidify over time? Also have you tried this with more liquidy concentrates like pure gold? Also I'm assuming you can use that flavored e juice stuff to mix? Pure Gold doesn't taste like much and reclaimed stuff tastes dirty half the time.

@BLAZING OG what carts do you suggest I use for this on the Persei?

I havent tried any thc pg/vg mixures yet but iam going to try @bad ninja 's methods soon.
The thing about the w9tech ce6 is that they dont need an adapter to fit persei(I hateadapters, they take away from the smooth look) but the there only 2.4 ohms they produce good vapor but not strong vapor, They do have the 5.0ohms that might burn hotter and give fatter clouds.
My friend uses a sapphire bud atomizer (not the best) bottom feeder 1.8ohms with pure gold and it hits strong and I can get medicated of 1-2 huge hits.
But with this mixture the ce4 and ce6 should work fine.

Trippy ,check this out

http://www.verizor.com/verizor-v-core-2-vivi-nova-dual-tank-chamber-system-e-cigarette-malaysia

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10005577/1315801-vivi-nova-detachable-double-layer-electronic
read the decription, it say top chamber for e liquid, and bottom chamber for tar oils ??????

WOW, I just found 2 interesting mech mods that resemble oldr and present devices, the clone wars !!!!!!!

http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/...echanical-mod-e-cigarette-battery-compartment

http://www.reviewecigmods.com/the-boss.html
Crazy stuff!

 

[bad ninja]

Why do you say they are inefficient? Other than vapor condensing in water/rig I thought a nail or skillet was one of the more efficient ways to dab

Me too
I have the first skillet HMK sent to the USA that's 9 years old

However I can vape a gram of high quality wax in a long session

No way I could vape 1.6 ml tank of e juice/thc in a session I would be comatose on the sofa
Face deep in a bag of Cheetos.

Another tip for ordering:
Atomizers for e solids or gels will work for pure concentrates.

 

[BLAZING OG]

Me too
I have the first skillet HMK sent to the USA that's 9 years old

However I can vape a gram of high quality wax in a long session

No way I could vape 1.6 ml tank of e juice/thc in a session I would be comatose on the sofa
Face deep in a bag of Cheetos.

hahahahahah, Hash Master Kut is the original I hear .
Very cool!!!!!

 

[OF]

Nope I didn't find any useful tutorials at all.
How the hell would "sticky guide" come up in a google search for thc /pg ejuice blends?
My Google fu is good but c'mon.

Too bad, might have saved you some trouble.

You could, perhaps, have found it with Google just like I did. Carefully chosen search terms and perseverance. It's been a while but I think "e-cig formulas" was the secret term I used.....I may have added 'THC' or 'Cannabis'. It comes up because some trusty 'web bot' reported the text and Google linked it to the search term given. Al Gore did us all a great service inventing the internet and all but the researcher still has to take an active part in the search, changing terms and not quitting too soon.

Anyway, there it is, FWIW. Useful for some but not for all? But hardly secret.

OF

 

[poonman]

I make ounces of high end wax for 4 collectives.

I can't post pics or I would show ya

Looks like moon rocks with craters, but I can make it any consistency I want.
As long as its high quality it will work.

I've been making bho for well over a decade and I wrote the original QWISO tech everyone uses today ten years ago on overgrow.


Here we go.
Most of it looks like my avatar pic

mod note: Please avoid back-to-back posts, use Edit instead. Two more posts merged.

Here's how to post pics on FC .
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/how-to-post-pictures.155/

What do you think about skunkpharma ?
Are they good , worth the read ?
and
What's the return yield ratio for qwiso ? ( I'm using Top shelf buds )
3 to 1 ? ( I'm doing warm water purge method and air dry )
I never get 3 to 1 ratio , and I want to refine my procedure .

tia

 

[bad ninja]

Here's how to post pics on FC .
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/how-to-post-pictures.155/

What do you think about skunkpharma ?
Are they good , worth the read ?
and
What's the return yield ratio for qwiso ? ( I'm using Top shelf buds )
3 to 1 ? ( I'm doing warm water purge method and air dry )
I never get 3 to 1 ratio , and I want to refine my procedure .

tia

I never really get anywhere near 30% yield.
I get closer to 18%+- very high quality QWISO from quality bud
Certain strains yield more but that's a good average for what I usually run.

 

[poonman]

I never really get anywhere near 30% yield.
I get closer to 18%+- very high quality QWISO from quality bud
Certain strains yield more but that's a good average for what I usually run.

Ok , so it's not just me then .
What method of purging do you use ?
I'm still a noobie in this area , but I'm a liking it !

 

[bad ninja]

Double boiler on low
Water never exceeds 180f and the dish will stay around 140.
I'm in a low humidity area so I don't need fans

Keeping the temps low help preserve terpenes

 

[feinwhat]

Hey do any ego cartridges fit on the gpen battery?

 

[dannomac21]

I asked this in the Cloud thread - but do you guys use yours with or without a screen?

 

[feinwhat]

Ive been using mine with but one got clogged a bit so I was thinking of just tossin it

 

[feinwhat]

Has anyone tried the new dried herb tank. I would like to but for 50 bucks ill just use it for wax for now.

 

[feinwhat]

They actually sent me 3 free tanks and they've been workin great

 

[Escobeezy]

Has anyone tried the new dried herb tank. I would like to but for 50 bucks ill just use it for wax for now.

I saw a youtube comment on a video about the G Pen that the dry herb tank doesn't vape but combusts the herbs. Leaving a nasty burnt popcorn taste.

G Pen for dry herbs is a no go it seems.

 

[Caligula]

I love it when this thread pops up because I get to talk shit. The G Pen is a POS. It does concentrates in an inferior and unsafe manner, it will NOT vaporize herb, and every product Grenco makes is over priced by about 100%. I could literally put together a BETTER version of a G Pen for about 30 bucks, if that. All Grenco does is buy cheap ecig parts from China, put them in a nice box and then charge you 50x what they paid.

Trust your instinct and throw your g pen away.

 

[Escobeezy]

I love it when this thread pops up because I get to talk shit. The G Pen is a POS. It does concentrates in an inferior and unsafe manner, it will NOT vaporize herb, and every product Grenco makes is over priced by about 100%. I could literally put together a BETTER version of a G Pen for about 30 bucks, if that. All Grenco does is buy cheap ecig parts from China, put them in a nice box and then charge you 50x what they paid.

Trust your instinct and throw your g pen away.

I'm new to the vape world and have been shopping around so the G Pen was on my radar. Well not anymore. Hopefully I can find something for me.

 

[Caligula]

I'm new to the vape world and have been shopping around so the G Pen was on my radar. Well not anymore. Hopefully I can find something for me.

We can help. What is your budget and what are your criteria?

 

[OF]

I'm new to the vape world and have been shopping around so the G Pen was on my radar. Well not anymore. Hopefully I can find something for me.

Howdy, welcome to the fun. Not to worry, we were all 'a little new' as well....some more than others..... Helping each other out in such things is the main reason we're here you know.

So, what is it you want? What are you looking for? Herbs? Concentrates? Both?

OF

 

[Escobeezy]

We can help. What is your budget and what are your criteria?

About 100 dollars and I would like to smoke waxes and oils. I know if I wanna smoke herbs it has to be via a vape like the Pax. But yeah I want a nice highish end pen vape.

 

[Caligula]

Hmmm at $100 im thinking Dabbler, Dr Dabber, or Omicron/omicron Lite/Ophos. What say you @OF?