Iv only tried a few ball /gem vapes other than my DIY I will be trying the b0 shortly ... for some comparison but wrap a enail coil around it sounds like a phase 3 16mm SS ball vapes with no balls is all I was sayingI got a ball vape, think the b0 or b1 or something but I don't care for it. Way too harsh for me. I can go low and slow and its still too harsh. I don't use it. I also made the pinky and the ceroma and they all still too harsh in comparison.