The CVault - Climate Controlled Storage

[t-dub]

That makes sense. I remember someone on here maybe this thread? Saying how the vacuum pressure negatively affects the humidipaks and they wouldn't last as long in a vacuum regardless of if it's glass or plastic...

That is correct. Putting the packet under vacuum will 1) make it work incorrectly and 2) deplete it quickly and ruin it. Under vacuum use oxygen absorbers since the reason for vacuum is getting rid of oxygen. This greatly slows the curing process. Under atmospheric pressure use Boveda packs. This will take your medicine out of "stasis" and bring it back to consumption mode, but the clock starts ticking faster again.

 

[Vicki]

That is correct. Putting the packet under vacuum will 1) make it work incorrectly and 2) deplete it quickly and ruin it. Under vacuum use oxygen absorbers since the reason for vacuum is getting rid of oxygen. This greatly slows the curing process. Under atmospheric pressure use Boveda packs. This will take your medicine out of "stasis" and bring it back to consumption mode, but the clock starts ticking faster again.

What's the longest you have stored buds in the CVault?

 

[t-dub]

What's the longest you have stored buds in the CVault?

My longest storage is in vacuum which is a little over a year. Vacuum is stasis. When I bring the medicine out it breathes into normalcy fairly quickly and the clock starts ticking. As far as the cvault, well I have some meds that were given to me late last year and they seem to be aging fairly well, but aging they are.

 

[Vicki]

As far as the cvault, well I have some meds that were given to me late last year and they seem to be aging fairly well, but aging they are.

Ok Yoda.

I have been keeping my buds in the CVault instead of the mason jar, max time 6 months. The buds I have in there right now have been in there for around 3 months. If I ever got bulk again, I would go back to vacuum sealing in a mason jar.

 

[spoutti]

Im glad to read others are having similar results to mine. I have been having a special 1,5oz since last dec in vacuumed mason jars, grind an 1/8 per jar opening, put it in jyarz with great taste still today.

I feel cvault/humipacs are best to revive desert dry herbs. I dont need it with vacuumed mason jars, but a solution when needed.

 

[Salazar]

Note: Questions are all for vaped bud, though I may rarely smoke from time to time.

.........On an unrelated note I'm on the lookout for a piece of glass or stainless steel to fill up some of the empty space in my CVaults as I never have more than an ⅛ inside. I know there was discussion about this here or another thread. Anyone tried this?

Have you tried using sterilized glass marbles ? I use them in my bho tube for when I only want to do a small run.

Is it recommended to try and fill up as much of the CVault as you can? I generally only put a little bit of weed in there at a time, and there's quite a lot of empty space. Does it actually matter at all?

i bought two med's can i load them up and stick them in the fridge, i know your supposed to store in a cool place, but such a place doesnt exist right now in my state. I guess a better question is what temp should they be stored at?

A few people mentioned that storing it in a refrigerator helps things out. Will that give better results than just leaving it in my room, for extended storage?

The cvault definitely does a good job of keeping your material in very nearly the same state as when you first put it in (sometimes it will even look better)... it's really impressive how fresh it looks/smells, even after a couple months or more in the vault.

For immediate usage, you could certainly use a cvault with no humidipak and you'd get fine results.

I like to keep my stuff in the cvault for long-term, and then I'll keep about a week's worth in my pollen box, and another week's worth in a cheap, "air tight" (yeah, right) glass jar... after the pollen box material is gone, I transfer the glass jar stuff to the box, and take another week's worth out of the cvault to put in the glass jar. Keep it on a nice cycle.

Also, a cvault with no humidipak is a great place to store your duff for future cooking use...

I would not recommend using your material straight out of a cvault with humidipak. I mean, you CAN vaporize it, but... it is most certainly not an optimal way to go about it...

A few people in this thread seemed to suggest that they loaded bud straight from the Humidipak'd CVault into their vape and saw good results. Is it better to leave it a little dryer before vaping instead?

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

A few people in this thread seemed to suggest that they loaded bud straight from the Humidipak'd CVault into their vape and saw good results. Is it better to leave it a little dryer before vaping instead?

Wow. Usually *I* am the one quoting old posts, not the other way around. Nice!

I'm not sure anyone can tell you what's "better," per se, but I hear what you're getting at.

I'm afraid I must "rewrite history" a bit here, as my opinion has changed a bit. Don't judge me!

IMO, it helps to let it dry a *little* before going into the vape. You certainly don't *have* to. Sometimes I go straight from cvault to vape and it works fine. But I do seem to prefer to take my herb out of the cvault and let it sit in my pollen box for about a day before I hit it. In deepest summer, where the humidity is unreal where I live, I might wait two days.

But if you do go straight from vault to vape, you may just notice that the first hit or two is not what you're expecting. But after you get that initial "wetness" out, it doesn't matter so much. You're gonna be getting great flavor here, either way.

Some do prefer a little moisture in their bud when they start vaping. Not busting anyone's ball's here. But I do prefer a nice, dryer first hit.

So, in short, yes, IMO, a bit of drying after a vault stay makes it nicer, but it's definitely not a big deal. I go from cvault to vape all the time now and while I do still believe it's not optimal, I no longer believe it makes much of a difference.



PS. I'm no genius, no scientist, no forward-thinker. I'm just a typical FC'er, who does what works best for me.

 

[Salazar]

Thanks, that's the exact kind of answer I was looking for.

 

[basement farmer]

I just cracked one of my cvaults that I had sealed about ten weeks ago and am pleased to find that my herb revitalized just as others had said it would. Bone dry going in, soft and sticky coming out. It vapes better too.

 

[randybishop]

I have cured weed in a cvault with Boveda paks.
Do Boveda paks suck up the weed smell? After curing in the cvault the weed loses it's small.

 

[Kief]

No. The 62% Humidipaks provide a perfect environment to preserve your herb and it's wonderful aroma. They lock in the smell, but it will come back when you dry it out just a little, or... just put it in your vape, it should taste as good or better than before the Humidipaks as long as your cure went well.

I've been using Humidipaks for a few years now and I will not go back to any other storage method, I have tried them all.

 

[LetsGoTwoSmokes]

I have been very excited to try out the cvault for months. Finally pulled the trigger and got 1 medium and 1 3-liter. I really like the durability and the handy boveda pack holder. However, I have been very disappointed in the amount of smell that leaks out. If someone walks into a room where I have either container, it stinks to high heaven. I read earlier post where manufacturer said that in time some odor may escape. I just got these last week. I'll still use them and I'm testing out the 3-liter with some uncured herbs to see how well they accomplish that. I had to put the medium (travel size) in the hotel fridge so I wouldn't get kicked out! Any suggestions, team?

 

[Kief]

Clean the gasket and make sure it is seating properly. If that is not the problem, the smell is most likely coming from somewhere else.

 

[neogitus]

Bought a couple of c vaults the other day and am wanting to clear something up if anyone knows. I watched a video online of someone using one of the larger c vaults to put in over a lb of ganj in it and he put 2 humidity packs in at the same time. Is this how they were meant to be used? (my xl came with like 3 or 4 inside the lid) If thats the case then I would have ordered more extra bovedas lol. Would make sense to me just to have the packs that fit the corresponding size rather than stacking packs. Thanks to anyone who responds.

 

[LetsGoTwoSmokes]

Thanks, kief. I popped out the seals and cleaned out a small amount of black gunk. Then I pushed the gasket in really snug with a butter knife. No more escaped odors! I love these things and now that boveda makes a 54 it can only get better. The med is perfect for traveling and the 3-liter comfortably holds a qp and I wouldn't be surprised if I could get a hp+ in there.

Thanks again, good lookin out.

 

[Kief]

Bought a couple of c vaults the other day and am wanting to clear something up if anyone knows. I watched a video online of someone using one of the larger c vaults to put in over a lb of ganj in it and he put 2 humidity packs in at the same time. Is this how they were meant to be used? (my xl came with like 3 or 4 inside the lid) If thats the case then I would have ordered more extra bovedas lol. Would make sense to me just to have the packs that fit the corresponding size rather than stacking packs. Thanks to anyone who responds.

The more packs you use, the faster they work to bring your container to proper humidity. But, if your herbs are already at the proper humidity, there is no reason to use extra packs. If your material is extra dry, an extra pack is a good idea because they will get used up much faster. Some people use extra just for good measure, there isn't any negative effect from using extra packs. Some growers use Humidipaks to take the guess work out of the curing process and that could also require extra packs... and that may be what you witnessed in that video. I've found that one 8g Humidipak (preferred) is enough to maintain up to 1 oz and the 40g packs can maintain over a quarter pound for a year or more, but that's what they were designed for... maintaining the humidity and freshness.

 

[neogitus]

Has anyone noticed certain buds getting a reduced smell when put in the c vault? I put some insanely stinky green crack x purple kush in there and after a few days it has almost no smell until I grind it up. Is it because the moisture or am I missing something? I have had this strain side by side with one jarred and one in the cvault and so far, by far the jar smells better. I have had them a week and a half so am still doing my testing, and so far so good on the moisture level. Slowly brings dry buds moisture back and vice versa. I've already noticed that this happens much faster for airier nugs than it does for dense nugs. It took my big buddha cheese not even 2 days to have its bounce back and feel nice to touch again while the pineapple kush took 7 days. Other than that, even without the boveda packs I really like the way these look and feel, and if I can figure out where my smell went I would definitely want more for larger amounts

 

[TeeJay1952]

Perhaps use other methods to store material but use CVault as a Lazarus Chamber to restore over dried goods.

 

[Kief]

Has anyone noticed certain buds getting a reduced smell when put in the c vault?

I believe this was answered on this page already...

They lock in the smell, but it will come back when you dry it out just a little, or...

 

[neogitus]

lol i read the whole thread but thanks for that ... very helpful... How do they lock in the smell? by making it more moist? My weed was cured when going in and reeked and had moisture to it. The stuff that has been in the c vault hasn't really changed in moisture content (touch wise) but smells significantly reduced. I smoke a bowl every day to test differences and so far no difference. If the smell is being "locked in" wouldn't that affect how it tastes? Stuff smells nowhere near as strong as a few days ago. The stuff still in a jar smells amazing and reeks. I have 4 different strains in different sized C vaults and none of them except one has had reduced smell. Leaving it out does nothing to bring smell back. The rest actually smell better over time, hence the question lol. I understand the more that something smells the more molecules are coming off of it but, after 2 hours in dry air smell should come back as moisture leaves it. I have pineapple kush , outer space and diablo all also in c vaults and they smell much better than when they went in. The green crack kush, super mild now. I'm going to keep it in there another week+ to see if any different flavours/smells develop but so far nothing after about a week. Stuff in c vault has lost all signs of fuel/skunk. Maybe water soluble terpenes being stuck in "suspension" in the water in buds? No clue. Will keep testing

 

[basement farmer]

I've noticed the reduced smell of stored buds as well.

I blame physics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vapour_pressure

Though that last batch of White Widow came out of the Cvault mighty skunky.

 

[John Lewus]

I wonder if the humidipaks are sucking in the smell. Has anyone used a humidipak with glass and noticed the same loss of smell?

 

[MinnBobber]

I wonder if the humidipaks are sucking in the smell. Has anyone used a humidipak with glass and noticed the same loss of smell?

I use Boveda 62% packs in a glass container and the bud smells/tastes/works just like in March when it went in there. Maybe better as it has gotten cured to perfection.

 

[CarolKing]

I haven't had any problems with losing any smell with my bud. If it goes in skunky it comes out that way even several months down the line. I've had cannabis that didn't seem to be seasoned very well. I've left it in my CVault like a month or two and it's came out to be really a great product.

 

[Chill Dude]

I wonder if the humidipaks are sucking in the smell. Has anyone used a humidipak with glass and noticed the same loss of smell?

Yes, I think it's a trade off... If I want to keep my weed moist and dank and store it for a long time, I use a humidipak (but the weed does become much less fragrant). If I'm storing for less than three or four weeks, I prefer NOT to use humidipacks. I've found that by not using the humidipacks your herb's bouquet will last much longer. I love the smell of strong dank weed when I open the jar! Anyway, that's just my experience....