The All-glass airpath obsession...

[MinnBobber]

I started this thread cause I have doubts about the fact glass equal good taste, since my tastier vape is the Minivap(far away the others) and there is no glass into!
Since I made 2 others experience which convince me if the glass airpath could help there is a lot of factors to think about!
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And in term of flavor (and efficiency and clouds and....) my Minivap is the better (yes better taste than the Cloud+ imho) it tastes good from the first draw to the last one, you can use the higher level and taste your flower and it never becomes harsh!(vapor becomes hot but taste is still floral)

I read there is lot of flavor chaser here, you'll love the MV and sometime I think that I wasting my flowers with others vapes (especially portables, only my TV evo taste good since I upgraded my FW).

If the glass could help to get a good taste I'm sure the heating system and the ability to don't create too much conduction (and that's why glass could be not the better since it stocks the heat) are the keys for a good taste (since the airpath purity is an evidence now!)

The herbalizer seems to be in the same kind of the MV, built without components able to stock the heat so they are able to control the t° very good (VS the Cloud+ which stock lot of heat, heat retention) but I never try it...

A big X2.
Glass is a fine pathway but the best testing vapes I've ever used were not glass so it is not a necessary element.
A "sub-par" vape can be helped by glass. There are very fine premium quality vapes with glass pathways. But, a well engineered, well designed, well constructed vape need not necessarily use glass to get supreme taste and supreme efficiency.

Glass is but one piece in the puzzle and there are some great puzzle makers who opt to not use glass.

 

[Meremoth]

Lotus, Firefly, Heat Island, Silver Surfer and many others all have excellent flavor. Glass airpath is not the only way to get there.

I guess I just prefer the most effective route, so-to-speak, despite how nitpicky it might seem. Plus I'm a little OCD. But live and let live. Cheers.

 

[hoptimum]

A big X2.
Glass is a fine pathway but the best testing vapes I've ever used were not glass so it is not a necessary element.
A "sub-par" vape can be helped by glass. There are very fine premium quality vapes with glass pathways. But, a well engineered, well designed, well constructed vape need not necessarily use glass to get supreme taste and supreme efficiency.

Glass is but one piece in the puzzle and there are some great puzzle makers who opt to not use glass.

IMO, the best flavor is actually the least flavor added by the device. The best vaporizers let you experience herb the way it really tastes, without any additional flavor from the vaporizer. Whether the air path is all glass or stainless steel, or a whip, or a combination is immaterial.

 

[lwien]

For me, whips, balloons, plastics, silicone, rubber, woods and brass that come in contact with the vapor adds a bit of taste of their own and is the reason why I much prefer either an all glass or stainless vapor path.

 

[hoptimum]

For me, whips, balloons, plastics, silicone, woods and brass that come in contact with the vapor adds a bit of taste of their own and is the reason why I much prefer either an all glass or stainless vapor bath.

I mostly agree, though I couldn't honestly say what the whip in the SSV adds to the flavor. It all tastes like flower to me.

 

[KidFated.]

For me, whips, balloons, plastics, silicone, rubber, woods and brass that come in contact with the vapor adds a bit of taste of their own and is the reason why I much prefer either an all glass or stainless vapor path.

I agree 100% but I do like wood vapor paths quite a bit.

 

[z9]

air path vs vapor path

From my experience the materials in the vapor path effect flavor more than the air path. I think its because the vapor path is typically (not always) exposed to higher temperatures than the airpath. Unless my airpath goes through heated electronics or unsafe plastics I could typically care less about the materials in it.

I agree 100% but I do like wood vapor paths quite a bit.

Wooden vapor paths have become my favorite! There's something special about vaping through an unused wooden stem

 

[lwien]

Wooden vapor paths have become my favorite! There's something really special about vaping through an unused wooden stem

My first vape, the VaporGenie, had that woody taste and my second vape, the PD had it as well but to a lesser degree. To each their own, but for me, ANY taste other than the taste of the bud is not something that I want to inhale. I guess it's for the same reason that I don't like flavored coffees. I want to taste the coffee, not the flavors that are added to it. Guess it's just the purist in me.

Come to think of it, I'm the same way with my TV. I calibrate it so it's as accurate as can be without any pumped up brightness, contrast or colors, and with music I don't want it EQ'D to other than...............flat. I want to see the movies as the directors intended and I want to hear the music as the producers and engineers intended. Hell, for that matter, the LAST thing I would put on my steak is any kind of steak sauce.

So yeah, this mindset kind of permeates just about everything that I enjoy. That doesn't make it right for anyone else though. It just makes it right for me.

 

[z9]

My first vape, the VaporGenie, had that woody taste and my second vape, the PD had it as well but to a lesser degree. To each their own, but for me, ANY taste other than the taste of the bud is not something that I want to inhale. I guess it's for the same reason that I don't like flavored coffees. I want to taste the coffee, not the flavors that are added to it. Guess it's just the purist in me.

Come to think of it, I'm the same way with my TV. I calibrate it so it's as accurate as can be without any pumped up brightness, contrast or colors, and with music I don't want it EQ'D to other than...............flat. I want to see the movies as the directors intended and I want to hear the music as the producers and engineers intended. Hell, for that matter, the LAST thing I would put on my steak is any kind of steak sauce.

So yeah, this mindset kind of permeates just about everything that I enjoy. That doesn't make it right for anyone else though. It just makes it right for me.

I like a pure airpath as much as the next guy and understand the desire for it but vaping through wood is more akin to grilling a steak over wood (or even coal) than putting sauce on your steak.

E-juice on your herb anyone?

 

[RUDE BOY]

I love using my wooden roasting tubes with my UD and the simple glass stems, my wooden chamber for the EV2 is really choice as is the glass direct draw stem and than again the straight shooter bowl and the wonder bowl in the vapolution are two of my favorites too.

So I'd say my preference changes bowl to bowl, session to session, and vape to vape.

i just love Fuckin' vapor I guess. ... ... ... ...

 

[Meremoth]

My first vape, the VaporGenie, had that woody taste and my second vape, the PD had it as well but to a lesser degree. To each their own, but for me, ANY taste other than the taste of the bud is not something that I want to inhale. I guess it's for the same reason that I don't like flavored coffees. I want to taste the coffee, not the flavors that are added to it. Guess it's just the purist in me.

Come to think of it, I'm the same way with my TV. I calibrate it so it's as accurate as can be without any pumped up brightness, contrast or colors, and with music I don't want it EQ'D to other than...............flat. I want to see the movies as the directors intended and I want to hear the music as the producers and engineers intended. Hell, for that matter, the LAST thing I would put on my steak is any kind of steak sauce.

So yeah, this mindset kind of permeates just about everything that I enjoy. That doesn't make it right for anyone else though. It just makes it right for me.

I actually have a very similar mindset. I guess I'm somewhat of a purist? But not an elitist. I believe whatever people want to do they should do because in their mind, whether they're somehow tricking themselves or not, is better to them, so to each their own, live and let live, and all those other good cliches. But I still believe glass is the way to go. If for nothing else then the perhaps small chance that you're somehow losing the good properties of cheeba-cheeba by the desired chemicals in the smoke/vape attaching themselves to the more reactive material.

 

[accrete]

Greetings,

...To each their own, but for me, ANY taste other than the taste of the bud is not something that I want to inhale. I guess it's for the same reason that I don't like flavored coffees. I want to taste the coffee...Come to think of it...this mindset kind of permeates just about everything that I enjoy. That doesn't make it right for anyone else though. It just makes it right for me.

I'm close to this thought process going about my day also. For me it began as an experiment 40 or so years ago wondering what things smelled or tasted like in their native form, and pretty much going with it. Back then i was pretty much into a raw diet (have moved on since) and was incorporating cannabis into my daily routine (mostly in edibles). One thing i did notice after a few months is that my sense of smell and taste had made a big leap in ability. IOW, because i had switched over to not drowning my food/drinks etc with extra spices or flavors my senses were more able to also enjoy the individual spices/flavorings when utilized. It was and still is almost like listening to a complex musical piece and able to pick out and focus on individual instruments and themes within the theme.


Now as a hobby Vaporist (non cannabis) my sense of taste and smell has made another leap forward. It is enjoyable to sense the different flavonoids as one adjusts the vape-temp of a given blend or herb during a session.

As a bubble thought...i'm wondering if my nightly routine of a final vape session of peppermint leaf is helping to clear my pallet so to speak and allow for a finer sense of smell/taste?


Hope you all have a nice holiday!

Thom