Discontinued The 8 Herb Vaporizer for the Persei

[Sinclue]

Field testing today...taking it over to a friend's house to join some folks watching Giants-A's game. Will try to take notes....

Won't take it past three sessions without charging. I'll leave it up to OF to see how much can be squeezed out of them.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Field testing today...taking it over to a friend's house to join some folks watching Giants-A's game. Will try to take notes....

Won't take it past three sessions without charging. I'll leave it up to OF to see how much can be squeezed out of them.

Old man stick to squeezing boobs, let OF squeeze cells.

 

[Sinclue]

Old man stick to squeezing boobs, let OF squeeze cells.

Sounds good to me sonny. I'll take some of the supply you seem to have on hand.

 

[Sinclue]

8 Testing-D3

No, no that’s not the power of the 8...there really is an eclipse happening.

So I took the 8 with me to a gathering of old farts (we are your grandparents). These are seasoned veterans (a couple of us literally) who’ve consumed all sorts of stuff in all sorts of apparatuses. Everybody understood it was a prototype.

I removed the inserts from the mouthpiece and replaced it with a ss screen up near the top. Gave more room to shake the contents during use. Since I was counting on shaking (not stirring) I used .35g loads.

Last note I took that still makes sense indicates startup to 330º was pretty close to D2 results. Tapering off with each use. After three rounds I charged them up again (In case you’re counting OF). Took approx. 90 minutes to recharge (don’t worry OF, I let them cool down before recharging). Then another three rounds.

ABV-the shaking makes a lot of difference. Uniformly browned except for one load I forgot and left in the bowl as it cooled. Some black stuff in that one...probably from contact with heating rod for extended time.

In sum it was a hit. Vapor was off and on, but then you have a bunch of different people using different techniques, no matter what you tell them. Nobody pulled any giant clouds, but then we mostly believe clouds represent “the tokes not taken”.

I/we all agreed it is a stylish piece of equipment. It looks like a light sabre when its all lit up...the colors are right and legible to old eyes too. The buttons are easy to push even for those with medical issues. Its not a party vape, but for one or two it’ll be great. Carry a couple of pre-measured loads with you and maybe an extra set of batteries and you’re good for the day. I certainly am looking forward to it. “Once the heat issue is fixed” they all chant in unison.

G-it occurred to me later (naturally) that I could have practically held a freaking tupperware party with your gear. If I hadn’t been focused on getting the stuff together for the 8 I could have taken my other pieces along. Nothing illegal going on as we are all MM patients. In fact we’ve discussed forming our own collective. At any rate I told them about the V1, V2, and the Persei. Should be getting website traffic at least. There are probably a significant number of folks who’d rather get their hands on something to check it out before they buy it.

 

[Sinclue]

8 Porn:

 

[OF]

I removed the inserts from the mouthpiece and replaced it with a ss screen up near the top. Gave more room to shake the contents during use. Since I was counting on shaking (not stirring) I used .35g loads.

Last note I took that still makes sense indicates startup to 330º was pretty close to D2 results. Tapering off with each use. After three rounds I charged them up again (In case you’re counting OF). Took approx. 90 minutes to recharge (don’t worry OF, I let them cool down before recharging). Then another three rounds.

ABV-the shaking makes a lot of difference. Uniformly browned except for one load I forgot and left in the bowl as it cooled. Some black stuff in that one...probably from contact with heating rod for extended time.

In sum it was a hit. Vapor was off and on, but then you have a bunch of different people using different techniques, no matter what you tell them. Nobody pulled any giant clouds, but then we mostly believe clouds represent “the tokes not taken”.

Sounds much better than earlier. It appears you're coming up with a useful routine, 3 sessions from a charge that vape a total of a gram of bud seems like a pretty full day to me.... And a backup pair of batteries would double that.

I guess I'll plan on checking out your model then, and checking out the performance on concentrates.

Thanks once again for the update.

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Sounds much better than earlier. It appears you're coming up with a useful routine, 3 sessions from a charge that vape a total of a gram of bud seems like a pretty full day to me.... And a backup pair of batteries would double that.

I guess I'll plan on checking out your model then, and checking out the performance on concentrates.

Thanks once again for the update.

OF

OF, use a MM to check battery voltage from start to finish. We checked it and by the third bowl it was still at 3.8-3.9v

 

[OF]

OF, use a MM to check battery voltage from start to finish. We checked it and by the third bowl it was still at 3.8-3.9v

Fer sure, I plan to check it under moderate load in fact, usually an even better measure. The data for this guy is starting to converge which means we're most likely getting somewhere useful. The opera may not be over yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to find a fat lady in the house somewhere.....

Did you by chance measure battery current under working conditions? I think there's useful information there as well as we try to understand what's going on. I used to work for an Engineer who advised, 'never argue with the electrons, they know what they're doing'. If we can decipher what they're telling us, it's likely the truth.

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Fer sure, I plan to check it under moderate load in fact, usually an even better measure. The data for this guy is starting to converge which means we're most likely getting somewhere useful. The opera may not be over yet, but I wouldn't be surprised to find a fat lady in the house somewhere.....

Did you by chance measure battery current under working conditions? I think there's useful information there as well as we try to understand what's going on. I used to work for an Engineer who advised, 'never argue with the electrons, they know what they're doing'. If we can decipher what they're telling us, it's likely the truth.

OF

I have not tested it under load with instruments, but we have tried bowls with it.

 

[OF]

I have not tested it under load with instruments, but we have tried bowls with it.

One could argue the most valid test of all. Surely the best go/no go sort of deal. Still, I stubbornly put stock in numbers....

This time next week I hope to know a lot more.

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

One could argue the most valid test of all. Surely the best go/no go sort of deal. Still, I stubbornly put stock in numbers....

This time next week I hope to know a lot more.

OF

My friend everyone said cold fusion is no go, but i did it. I just put a cold tomatoes on a cold pizza slice walla cold fusion. Stomach now working.

who needs numbers when my but dyno, and my lungulator can test it out. <-- btw this is a joke, dont shoot me old man.

 

[OF]

Give it up, dude. You're not backing me into supporting theory over experience. Objective observation is king. Theory has to fit the observations or point to the flaw in the logic in play were I come from. To be real we need an experiment to confirm it.....not the other way around. It's only a law when it's proven to fit reality.

Or at least what we collectively think is reality. At the time.

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Give it up, dude. You're not backing me into supporting theory over experience. Objective observation is king. Theory has to fit the observations or point to the flaw in the logic in play were I come from. To be real we need an experiment to confirm it.....not the other way around. It's only a law when it's proven to fit reality.

Or at least what we collectively think is reality. At the time.

OF

i know brotha, but its funny to see your logic at work not giving an inch to "fuck it we doing it live" attitude.

 

[OF]

i know brotha, but its funny to see your logic at work not giving an inch to "fuck it we doing it live" attitude.

Glad it gives you some amusement. Still a guy can only use the tools he has to sort stuff out and I'm getting mighty old to be changing tool sets about now..... Understanding how the new stuff fits in with what I think to be real is how it works for me.

And it does keep it from getting too dull you know.

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Glad it gives you some amusement. Still a guy can only use the tools he has to sort stuff out and I'm getting mighty old to be changing tool sets about now..... Understanding how the new stuff fits in with what I think to be real is how it works for me.

And it does keep it from getting too dull you know.

OF

blah my friend, i think you need another trip to the beach with the bench and watch some girls. Your talking to much logic.

 

[OF]

blah my friend, i think you need another trip to the beach with the bench and watch some girls. Your talking to much logic.

Your slightest wish is my command, oh wise guy......

I'll get to work snapping out of it right now. Let's see, some of this here Casey Jones in a 2012 vintage 2.4 Ohm cart seems a good place to start.....lucky me, seem to have one right here......

"Workin' on it, boss, workin' on it".

OF

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Your slightest wish is my command, oh wise guy......

I'll get to work snapping out of it right now. Let's see, some of this here Casey Jones in a 2012 vintage 2.4 Ohm cart seems a good place to start.....lucky me, seem to have one right here......

"Workin' on it, boss, workin' on it".

OF

Its always a pleasure man talking to you.

 

[jpdnkstr]

Excellent testing....can't wait for the 8!

 

[OF]

Excellent testing....can't wait for the 8!

Oh, yeah? Can't wait? How much money you got? Cash only.....

If you're not picky about having one with a serial number, I might be able to get you one day after tomorrow, give me a PM and don't tell G.....

OF

 

[DubCRider]

Just be sure you don't need change, OF usually keeps a pocket full of wooden nickles.

 

[OF]

Just be sure you don't need change, OF usually keeps a pocket full of wooden nickles.

Trust me, he's not getting any change back.....

You know, maybe selling it outright is a bad idea. How about Timeshares in the 8? Much more useful than some lame condo you never visit.....

OF

 

[ru_frothi]

There are probably a significant number of folks who’d rather get their hands on something to check it out before they buy it.

Agreed on that. Always surpises me that THC doesn't sponsor the vape area at a show and have a bunch of products for people to test. They would sell more... When I walked up to their table at Deep Green I would have guessed they were selling Nails and Globes. NOTHING about the booth really says vape or even hypes up what they had. They had booth babes at the show but if they had booth babes in the vape lounge with loaded persei's for people to try then that would be a winner IMO.

 

[Sinclue]

Testing the 8

Battery levels (averaged over three sessions of three runs each)
Start (charged): 4.42v/4.40v
After 1 load: 3.85v/3.82v
After 2 loads: 3.65v/3.68v
After 3 loads: 3.52v/3.54v
Ran one 4 load..unit shut down after 4 minutes and never made it to target temp: 2.89v/3.20v

In sum: can't wait for the production unit. This is a winner (assuming some tweaking will be done). And we all know that G will bust his ass (or somebody's ass) to make it right.

It feels good in the hand and is easy to control and read even for us old farts. A black version would, of course, be extra cool.

As with all these type units there will be a learning curve, but if I can do it.....

Wasn't too keen on the modular mouthpiece. By itself with a screen allowed for shaking of contents which helped the vape.

G-instead of the piece with the two screens, how about something along the lines of a porous ceramic insert? Could be soaked in water (or liquid of choice) for cooling and flavor.

I'll be passing the "torch" to OF tomorrow. Let the technical gobbledegook begin!

 

[JoeKickass]

Start (charged): 4.42v/4.40v

It's a good thing those were imr batteries! Regular lithiums would be in trouble if they were overcharged that much... damage occurs after 4.25v...

Can you test out your charger? Check what voltage it gives with no batteries on it. Then next time you charge keep checking the batteries every 5 min or so, if you see them rise above 4.20v take them off

 

[JoeKickass]

G-instead of the piece with the two screens, how about something along the lines of a porous ceramic insert? Could be soaked in water (or liquid of choice) for cooling and flavor.

The ability to change mouthpieces would give an option to add that, and mouthpiece customization is also just a cool feature!