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The 2016 Presidential Candidates Thread
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Justice Clarence Thomas may step down from court after election
[T]he Washington Examiner is reporting that Justice Clarence Thomas may be considering leaving the court following November’s election.
The added pressure of being able to help steer the course of SCOTUS for the next 50 years enhances this election year to no end.
[T]he Washington Examiner is reporting that Justice Clarence Thomas may be considering leaving the court following November’s election.
The added pressure of being able to help steer the course of SCOTUS for the next 50 years enhances this election year to no end.
Silat
When the Facts Change, I Change My Mind.
I do not believe it. But I hope if he does stop down it is a long and painful fall. He has harmed millions.
lwien
Well-Known Member
"You're Fired !!"
Trump just fired his campaign manager. Guess Trump is blaming his falling poll numbers on him. To make this kind of change so close to the convention is an act of desperation.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/politics/corey-lewandowski-out-as-trump-campaign-manager/index.html
Ain't gonna help ya, Donald. Ain't gonna help ya.......You're a dead man walkin'.
Trump just fired his campaign manager. Guess Trump is blaming his falling poll numbers on him. To make this kind of change so close to the convention is an act of desperation.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/politics/corey-lewandowski-out-as-trump-campaign-manager/index.html
Ain't gonna help ya, Donald. Ain't gonna help ya.......You're a dead man walkin'.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
It looks like they are blaming Lewandowsksi a lot of Trump's behavior. I knew that Ivanka must be having a fit about her dad's behavior. It was suggested that Lewandowski gets Trump all riled up over stupid things. Also Lewandowski and Ivanka's husband didn't get along.
I blame Trump for his own toxic behavior. Ivanka would make a better president. I think someone mentioned that in this thread. I agree.
Paul Manafort was hired a month or more ago and was suppose to be the campaign manager for Trump. I was wondering how the two men were going to share the job.
I'm curious if Lewandowski will be telling secrets?
Edit - no such luck, he's on CNN and still very positive and singing Trump's
I blame Trump for his own toxic behavior. Ivanka would make a better president. I think someone mentioned that in this thread. I agree.
Paul Manafort was hired a month or more ago and was suppose to be the campaign manager for Trump. I was wondering how the two men were going to share the job.
I'm curious if Lewandowski will be telling secrets?
Edit - no such luck, he's on CNN and still very positive and singing Trump's
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turk
turk
....chris hedges has interesting piece in truthdig...me...I'm not voting for any of the candidates offered up by the two "sanctioned" parties...haven't voted for a repub. since mayor john lindsey of new york in the 70's...in 2000 I STOPPED voting for dems...period...I will happily vote for Dr. Jill Stein...just like I did last presidential cycle...and the time before that when I voted nader...I simply will not participate in a lessor of two evils equation...either you earn my vote...or you don't...
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I'm hearing Cory Lewandowski is the scapegoat for a bad candidate. The Trump campaign has 1.3 million dollars which is nothing.
Trump needed counseling from his kids to get rid of Lewandowski and he was escorted out of the building by security.
Trump might need to continue to finance his own campaign.
Maybe because he says stupid stuff like he's knows more about ISIS than the generals in the military does.
Putin really likes Trump he said in an interview. That can't be a good sign.
Trump needed counseling from his kids to get rid of Lewandowski and he was escorted out of the building by security.
Trump might need to continue to finance his own campaign.
Maybe because he says stupid stuff like he's knows more about ISIS than the generals in the military does.
Putin really likes Trump he said in an interview. That can't be a good sign.
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thisperson
Ruler of all things person
Eventually we will be the majority.
1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
Dunno if anyone has mentioned this already, but some British nutter (OK, open for debate), tried to assassinate Trump by grabbing for a copper's gun in Las Vegas.
http://gawker.com/feds-british-man-planned-trump-assassination-attempt-f-1782342073
http://gawker.com/feds-british-man-planned-trump-assassination-attempt-f-1782342073
1DMF
Old School Cheesy Quaver
Where's ya tin foil hat now
turk
turk
...at some point it would be prudent for this country to take a serious look at the people who aspire and "run for office"..in these elections...these two parties attract, generate, the most egocentric, narcissistic, self centered pricks in human history...and the electorate who time and time again...look to these millionaires to save us....they won't....and I'm fed-up with this model...
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
What needs to be changed is how the folks are nominated in the first place. The republican and the democratic party chooses the nominee. I never realized that until I really paid attention.
Then America chooses from there. if we really have much of a choice.
To create something new Americans need to get involved. That hasn't been happening. That happens years before an election not right before one.
If Trump becomes president he could do a lot of damage before he's impeached. Hopefully there would be a good VP in that case.
Then America chooses from there. if we really have much of a choice.
To create something new Americans need to get involved. That hasn't been happening. That happens years before an election not right before one.
If Trump becomes president he could do a lot of damage before he's impeached. Hopefully there would be a good VP in that case.
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cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Actually they were, and they could be again. All it takes is choosing people who WANT government to work, rather than want to destroy it or make it only work for them. And to do that, we need to take the money out of the process. We need to go back to a time when honorable men (tho we will add honorable women) ran for public office with the intention of doing good things for the citizenry rather than to enrich themselves.
This is NOT an impossible task. But it WILL take monumental action. It CAN be done. Wanna help?
This is NOT an impossible task. But it WILL take monumental action. It CAN be done. Wanna help?
grokit
well-worn member
Voting With Our Feet
Bernie Sanders’ political corpse in the presidential race is still warm, but some of his prominent liberal supporters already are urging us to flee to Hillary Clinton. Sanders, who knows the game is up, will soon become the Democrats’ pied piper. He will seek to entice his supporters into the Democratic Party rattrap. He has decried the disruption of Trump rallies—denigrating the only power we have left—saying “people should not disrupt anybody’s meetings.” His “political revolution,” like his promise of a movement, is a cynical form of advertising. Sanders will, like the Barack Obama of 2008, end as an impediment to the mass movements he claims to represent. And mass movements in our system of “inverted totalitarianism” are our final and only hope.
I understand the fear over Donald Trump. I too want to crush the growing fascist sentiments rising up from the rot and decay of American society. But voting for Clinton and supporting the Democratic Party will not halt our descent into despotism. It will only accelerate it. Trump is not creating phenomena. He is responding to them. It is up to us to halt the array of forces, including the Trump campaign, that are preparing a species of American fascism and orchestrating a global ecocide. The only way we have left to vote is with our feet.
When fundamental rights are abolished by the state, as novelist and activist Arundhati Roy has pointed out, “they are almost always won back only through revolution.” And it is not as if we have much time left. Josh Fox, in his brutally honest film about the looming effects of climate change, “How to Let Go of the World (and Love All the Things Climate Can’t Change),” notes that we have to cut 80 percent of all carbon emissions by 2020 if we are to have any hope of saving the Greenland ice sheet. The Paris climate talks were a step backward. The loss of the polar ice will flood coastal cities around the globe. It will trigger a global ecological catastrophe. It will displace hundreds of millions of people. It will bring, if not revolution, violence, anarchy, chaos, suffering and death that will rival the black plague. And our elites intend to do nothing to stop it. That fact alone should send us into the streets.
The Democrats, and in particular Hillary and Bill Clinton, are responsible as much as anyone on the right for our being sacrificed on the altar of corporate profit. They told the same lies as the right-wingers. They fed the same hate. They too orchestrated the corporate coup. The Clintons removed from the Democratic Party platform the progressive stances championed by Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition. They spoke early in their careers in the coded racism of “law and order.” They transformed the Democratic Party into the old Republican Party. They unleashed the predators of Wall Street and the fossil fuel industry. They stripped us of our civil liberties, championed endless war and empowered the arms industry and agencies such as Homeland Security to suck the marrow out of the federal budget. The Clintons and the Democratic Party filled the prisons and destroyed welfare. And under President Obama it has gotten worse. Obama authorized the assassination of U.S. citizens. He signed into law legislation that permits the military to act as a domestic police force and detain U.S. citizens indefinitely without due process. He and the Democratic Party establishment are attempting to ram new trade agreements down our throats.
It pays to betray the citizenry. The Clintons have made more than $153 million for paid speeches alone since 2001. The Democratic Party is awash in corporate cash. And the Obamas will soon, like the Clintons, be multimillionaires.
The two parties colluded to turn American politics into anti-politics. The culture wars replaced political debate. The Democrats co-opted the liberal elites and unions. The Republican Party embraced the lunatics of the Christian right, nativists and opponents of abortion rights. The Republicans and the Democrats looked at their supporters as useful idiots. It worked for a while. Then the manipulated and the abandoned sent the elites back to their gated estates. Voters flocked to Trump hate rallies and fueled Sanders’ political insurgency.
much more...
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/voting_with_our_feet_20160320
Bernie Sanders’ political corpse in the presidential race is still warm, but some of his prominent liberal supporters already are urging us to flee to Hillary Clinton. Sanders, who knows the game is up, will soon become the Democrats’ pied piper. He will seek to entice his supporters into the Democratic Party rattrap. He has decried the disruption of Trump rallies—denigrating the only power we have left—saying “people should not disrupt anybody’s meetings.” His “political revolution,” like his promise of a movement, is a cynical form of advertising. Sanders will, like the Barack Obama of 2008, end as an impediment to the mass movements he claims to represent. And mass movements in our system of “inverted totalitarianism” are our final and only hope.
I understand the fear over Donald Trump. I too want to crush the growing fascist sentiments rising up from the rot and decay of American society. But voting for Clinton and supporting the Democratic Party will not halt our descent into despotism. It will only accelerate it. Trump is not creating phenomena. He is responding to them. It is up to us to halt the array of forces, including the Trump campaign, that are preparing a species of American fascism and orchestrating a global ecocide. The only way we have left to vote is with our feet.
When fundamental rights are abolished by the state, as novelist and activist Arundhati Roy has pointed out, “they are almost always won back only through revolution.” And it is not as if we have much time left. Josh Fox, in his brutally honest film about the looming effects of climate change, “How to Let Go of the World (and Love All the Things Climate Can’t Change),” notes that we have to cut 80 percent of all carbon emissions by 2020 if we are to have any hope of saving the Greenland ice sheet. The Paris climate talks were a step backward. The loss of the polar ice will flood coastal cities around the globe. It will trigger a global ecological catastrophe. It will displace hundreds of millions of people. It will bring, if not revolution, violence, anarchy, chaos, suffering and death that will rival the black plague. And our elites intend to do nothing to stop it. That fact alone should send us into the streets.
The Democrats, and in particular Hillary and Bill Clinton, are responsible as much as anyone on the right for our being sacrificed on the altar of corporate profit. They told the same lies as the right-wingers. They fed the same hate. They too orchestrated the corporate coup. The Clintons removed from the Democratic Party platform the progressive stances championed by Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition. They spoke early in their careers in the coded racism of “law and order.” They transformed the Democratic Party into the old Republican Party. They unleashed the predators of Wall Street and the fossil fuel industry. They stripped us of our civil liberties, championed endless war and empowered the arms industry and agencies such as Homeland Security to suck the marrow out of the federal budget. The Clintons and the Democratic Party filled the prisons and destroyed welfare. And under President Obama it has gotten worse. Obama authorized the assassination of U.S. citizens. He signed into law legislation that permits the military to act as a domestic police force and detain U.S. citizens indefinitely without due process. He and the Democratic Party establishment are attempting to ram new trade agreements down our throats.
It pays to betray the citizenry. The Clintons have made more than $153 million for paid speeches alone since 2001. The Democratic Party is awash in corporate cash. And the Obamas will soon, like the Clintons, be multimillionaires.
The two parties colluded to turn American politics into anti-politics. The culture wars replaced political debate. The Democrats co-opted the liberal elites and unions. The Republican Party embraced the lunatics of the Christian right, nativists and opponents of abortion rights. The Republicans and the Democrats looked at their supporters as useful idiots. It worked for a while. Then the manipulated and the abandoned sent the elites back to their gated estates. Voters flocked to Trump hate rallies and fueled Sanders’ political insurgency.
much more...
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/voting_with_our_feet_20160320
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His_Highness
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
My wife is a Hillary supporter and if you've read anything I've posted in this thread it's obvious I'm feeling the Bern.
She has been asking me when I will give up and congratulate her for Hillary taking the primary. I keep saying "It's called presumptive for a reason so you'll have to wait till Bernie drops out unless another really good reason comes up'.
So last night we were watching a news program when someone mentioned Oprah has announced she is supporting Hillary so of course she rubbed my nose in it. Pointing out how much clout Oprah has. I said "Nope, not good enough. I need to know who the real game changers like Kelly Ripa and Wendy Williams have come out for". Her response "You're an ass and a sore loser". My response was "Too bad....you knew that when you married me."
Anyone got a spare dog house? It's gonna be a long election season around these here parts.
She has been asking me when I will give up and congratulate her for Hillary taking the primary. I keep saying "It's called presumptive for a reason so you'll have to wait till Bernie drops out unless another really good reason comes up'.
So last night we were watching a news program when someone mentioned Oprah has announced she is supporting Hillary so of course she rubbed my nose in it. Pointing out how much clout Oprah has. I said "Nope, not good enough. I need to know who the real game changers like Kelly Ripa and Wendy Williams have come out for". Her response "You're an ass and a sore loser". My response was "Too bad....you knew that when you married me."
Anyone got a spare dog house? It's gonna be a long election season around these here parts.
yogoshio
Annoying Libertarian
Vote Libertarian!
While that video of the Libertarian Convention was insane, we have to remember that in order to have any affect in a primary, people HAVE to be registered in the two party system, which is what allows the insanity of that situation to begin with. Those people are more like the Anarchy Party than Libertarian, and until we are allowed actual options, only those who are truly, truly fed up (and past the point of "lesser of two evils") back away, and then this will this actually change
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@His_Highness you think you have it bad? I'm married to a Republican. I hope we make through this election season. We've always been in opposite opinions far as politics goes but even my husband rolls his eyes at the Donald but will probably end up voting party lines. I told him to write in somebody else's name.
My husband liked John Kasich.
My husband liked John Kasich.
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lwien
Well-Known Member
little maggie
Well-Known Member
I know that most of you have seen this and it's not very serious but
I love it:
I love it: