Tarrif trouble?

Cacahuates

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I have some incoming pre orders from the US to Canada. Should I expect to be hit with Tarrifs?

There's so much good stuff and innovation in the vape world. This makes them exempt from trade wars right?
 
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bellona0544

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I *think* you're being serious in asking if the vape world is exempt from trade wars, so I will answer as if you are being serious.

No, there is no reason vapes will be exempt from tariffs. Tariffs will only hurt consumers in the United States because we have outsourced our entire supply chain and have very little that is now produced end-to-end in the US, meaning there is not a way for tariffs to increase domestic manufacturing without a significant price increase in basically every area. Your food, bottled water, energy, vaporizers, clothes, computers, video games, soda, jewelry, solar panels, phones, pet food, lumber, and literally everything else is going to get more expensive. I can't speak to how currently in-transit orders will be impacted. Everything moving forward is about to get a whole lot worse, though, and that I can promise you.
 

anome

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incoming pre orders from the US to Canada
Presumably the price has been locked-in upon purchase and so is pre-tariff costing. On the CA side of the border, with the retaliatory tariffs in place, who knows. My guess would be that imports for small business items will be hit with the reciprocal 25%, but only a careful read of the CA gov tariff docs that came into effect today would tell the tale.
 

floribud

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Wondering about my Toad. Paid for back in November(?), but Dan says maybe another month till it's finished... I don't think I have an extra $150 just laying around .... how even do tariffs work in this situation?
 

lapis

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Wondering about my Toad. Paid for back in November(?), but Dan says maybe another month till it's finished... I don't think I have an extra $150 just laying around .... how even do tariffs work in this situation?
If it hits the US before the de minimis exception is removed, you'll be in the clear as long as the Toad and accessories are worth less than $800 total, just like before. If the current US regime chooses to remove the de minimis exemption (like they've been threatening to) between now and then, you'll be on the hook for 25% + whatever other (pre-existing) import tariffs there are on the type of goods the Toad is.

I have some incoming pre orders from the US to Canada. Should I expect to be hit with Tarrifs?

There's so much good stuff and innovation in the vape world. This makes them exempt from trade wars right?
As far as I know, Canada's own de minimis exemption was already much lower than the US', at C$40 for taxes and C$150 for duties, so you'll probably pay the normal import duties plus the new import tariffs if your order exceeds C$150.
 
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Flotsam

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So far i have made a few minor Chinese purchases (glass adapters etc) & nothing on the delivery schedule has seemed to change with delivery times.

So I decided to contact the one vendor i have done multiple orders with ( and also gives me a break on new items he is stocking). I asked him what changes he has seen with shipping all these small dollar purchases as that is almost exclusively handles and his response is that so far as he can see it is business as usual. No special delays or anything but don't draw too much of a conclusions from . The point he made with me and i think really resonates is how would you administrate small dollar purchases? The amount of Tariffs from these small purchases isn't worth the trouble it would take to implement.

On a major platform like eBay or DHGate they may mandate the implementation but first it would have to get implemented. eBay for instance had no difficult implement states sales taxes when those were initially invoked. They could and probably could already implement a tariff fee with little issue.

I guess the bottom line is how upset the American people & his subservient congress can tolerate this. The house was NEVER expected to go Republican in 2028 anyway.
 

lapis

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It's worth noting it may not up to the platform to charge tariffs; in most countries with import tariffs, packages are held at customs until tariffs are paid by the recipient. Also, the de minimis exception for Chinese goods shipped to the US won't be removed until May 2nd, so we won't know from first-hand experience how this is all going to play out for a month yet.
 

Flotsam

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It's worth noting it may not up to the platform to charge tariffs; in most countries with import tariffs, packages are held at customs until tariffs are paid by the recipient. Also, the de minimis exception for Chinese goods shipped to the US won't be removed until May 2nd, so we won't know from first-hand experience how this is all going to play out for a month yet.
In the US i doubt that they have the storage to retain all these items. The truth is NONE of this Tariff stuff was thought out with Any intelligence.
 

lapis

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In the US i doubt that they have the storage to retain all these items. The truth is NONE of this Tariff stuff was thought out with Any intelligence.
Oh yeah, it's absolutely going to be a shitshow – packages got backed up for weeks last time the US president even suggested removing the de minimis exception – I'm just saying that's how tariffs are usually handled (and how they're currently handled when people import things with a higher value than $800). And I don't exactly expect every other country and online sales platform to rush to implement new protocols for collecting tariffs pre-shipment when they can let the US suffer to consequences of its own missteps...
 
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