Wait so you think the plenty is more powerful then the flowerpot or even the supreme?
Supreme vs FlowerPot
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ejackyou
Hamilton
I said 'True Vaporizing', the the FP and Supreme are Vaporizers used for getting Ripped, I suppose
much better than the Plenty due to it's temperature limitation, and would be a waste of money if
getting stoned is Your main concern, I can do that with my $45 VapCap.
Phenix
Well-Known Member
I want to recommended the Herborizer TI as a good option for EUropeans.
All glass and TI
It is nice, easy to use, mine is ready to use and stands beside my desk. It turns on with my PC as well
Will add a smart plug next week for more convenience.
Compared to the supreme v3 it is electric, silent operation minus bubbler sound.
The supreme is a „portable“ or rather transportable vape.
Sup hits are denser. Herborizer hits are less intense but plentiful. That’s how I use it - true one hit is possible. Loading is easier for sure.
All glass and TI
It is nice, easy to use, mine is ready to use and stands beside my desk. It turns on with my PC as well
Will add a smart plug next week for more convenience.
Compared to the supreme v3 it is electric, silent operation minus bubbler sound.
The supreme is a „portable“ or rather transportable vape.
Sup hits are denser. Herborizer hits are less intense but plentiful. That’s how I use it - true one hit is possible. Loading is easier for sure.
Vaporware
Well-Known Member
Have you actually used a FlowerPot or Sublimator? I’ve never used a Plenty so maybe there’s something magical about it that I’ve never heard from other users, but that seems unlikely.
Could you please describe what “True Vaporizing” is?
A lot of people do buy the FP (and other devices) to get “Ripped”, but over in the FP thread we often have to help those people find the right settings to get what they want. If you want a longer, slower session you can adjust your temp/draw speed/etc. to get that too.
In fact, I have used the FlowerPot far less at extreme settings than at temps below 400 (the controller temps you see in posts about the FP are higher than the actual temp in the bowl).
I’m a medical user, and while I do sometimes need a larger dose and it’s interesting to learn the range of effects you can get at different temps and with different devices I’m not someone who needs (or even wants) to be hit very hard most of the time.
In fact, one of the reasons I like the FP is that it’s full convection so I can just use it for one or two draws and then walk away and come back later without a lot of waste, unlike my Ascent or I believe the Plenty. I don’t usually want a full session that leaves me glued to the couch.
I do recommend the FlowerPot a lot, and I honestly think it’s a great option, but this is not a war where there has to be One Vape to Rule Them All - we have plenty of good options and while I understand people pushing back against things that don’t work well or that they think or know are unsafe, I don’t get throwing top rated devices under the bus without providing good reasons for doing it.
Some of the cheaper plastic stuff will put out toxic gasses, etc. and really shouldn’t be on the market in my opinion. Even my DaVinci Ascent needed a significant burn-off when I got it new more than 4 years ago, but I think/hope it’s pretty safe now.
Some others have been recalled or should have been recalled because they were never safe to use, but when that’s not the case and a device works well, I don’t get putting it down so much, especially if you don’t have a lot of experience with it.
If you’ve actually used the FP and Sub I think you might have needed more time with them to adjust them to fit what you want, but have you even tried them?
I’ve talked to or seen reviews from other people who have used the FlowerPot, the Sublimator and the Plenty and while I don’t think I’ve seen a direct comparison between them you are the only person I’ve seen promoting the Plenty over the others.
Maybe there are others doing it in the Plenty thread, maybe you know something the rest of us don’t, but if you’re going to continue to talk about it as the clearly best option, I think a lot of us would appreciate a better explanation of what makes it the best, preferably with some evidence to back your opinions up, and if possible an explanation of why we don’t see more people sharing your opinion around here would help to give it more weight.
ejackyou
Hamilton
Have you actually used a FlowerPot or Sublimator? I’ve never used a Plenty so maybe there’s something magical about it that I’ve never heard from other users, but that seems unlikely.
Could you please describe what “True Vaporizing” is?
A lot of people do buy the FP (and other devices) to get “Ripped”, but over in the FP thread we often have to help those people find the right settings to get what they want. If you want a longer, slower session you can adjust your temp/draw speed/etc. to get that too.
In fact, I have used the FlowerPot far less at extreme settings than at temps below 400 (the controller temps you see in posts about the FP are higher than the actual temp in the bowl).
I’m a medical user, and while I do sometimes need a larger dose and it’s interesting to learn the range of effects you can get at different temps and with different devices I’m not someone who needs (or even wants) to be hit very hard most of the time.
In fact, one of the reasons I like the FP is that it’s full convection so I can just use it for one or two draws and then walk away and come back later without a lot of waste, unlike my Ascent or I believe the Plenty. I don’t usually want a full session that leaves me glued to the couch.
I do recommend the FlowerPot a lot, and I honestly think it’s a great option, but this is not a war where there has to be One Vape to Rule Them All - we have plenty of good options and while I understand people pushing back against things that don’t work well or that they think or know are unsafe, I don’t get throwing top rated devices under the bus without providing good reasons for doing it.
Some of the cheaper plastic stuff will put out toxic gasses, etc. and really shouldn’t be on the market in my opinion. Even my DaVinci Ascent needed a significant burn-off when I got it new more than 4 years ago, but I think/hope it’s pretty safe now.
Some others have been recalled or should have been recalled because they were never safe to use, but when that’s not the case and a device works well, I don’t get putting it down so much, especially if you don’t have a lot of experience with it.
If you’ve actually used the FP and Sub I think you might have needed more time with them to adjust them to fit what you want, but have you even tried them?
I’ve talked to or seen reviews from other people who have used the FlowerPot, the Sublimator and the Plenty and while I don’t think I’ve seen a direct comparison between them you are the only person I’ve seen promoting the Plenty over the others.
Maybe there are others doing it in the Plenty thread, maybe you know something the rest of us don’t, but if you’re going to continue to talk about it as the clearly best option, I think a lot of us would appreciate a better explanation of what makes it the best, preferably with some evidence to back your opinions up, and if possible an explanation of why we don’t see more people sharing your opinion around here would help to give it more weight.
First off, I don't care what You or all the others who just want to get 'stoned' Think.
I'm just trying to save those people new to the forum, who are interested in vaping
sessions and those who like to have some kind of control when navigating themselves
through a session.
Not those coverts who are just coming off years of smoking Joints.
A discussion between the Two Types of Vaporizer Users is Futile and pointless.
ejackyou
Hamilton
As I eluded to, There are two Types of Vaporizer Users, Those who use a Vape to 'Get Ripped'
And Those who Vaporize.
If You don't already know the difference?
Then You either can't comprehend the process, or don't really care.
And likely Never Will, whether that's good or bad I don't know.
Gray Area
Well-Known Member
@ejackyou What's has any of that (whatever it means) got to do with the simple question you were asked; if you'd tried either the flowerpot or the supreme... and why you think the plenty is better.
You know nothing of me, my age history or reasons for using cannabis. And none of that has anything at all to do with the question in the first place
So should we take these responses to mean that you haven't tried either and it's just your "holier than thou" attitude that rates the plenty as better for "vaporising"??
You know nothing of me, my age history or reasons for using cannabis. And none of that has anything at all to do with the question in the first place
So should we take these responses to mean that you haven't tried either and it's just your "holier than thou" attitude that rates the plenty as better for "vaporising"??
What session controls does the Plenty have that the Flowerpot doesn't?
ejackyou
Hamilton
Like I tried to say, I'm not out to try to convince You 'Pot Heads' of Anything.
I'ts a waste of Your time to try to figure out the differences, and You experienced stoners
are long past having the ability to take advantage of the characteristics of Probably Thee
best engineered, and most well thought out and designed Vaporizer, on the market.
Not a bad thing, Your entitled to Enjoy any way You Like.
I'ts a waste of Your time to try to figure out the differences, and You experienced stoners
are long past having the ability to take advantage of the characteristics of Probably Thee
best engineered, and most well thought out and designed Vaporizer, on the market.
Not a bad thing, Your entitled to Enjoy any way You Like.
Vaporware
Well-Known Member
@ejackyou I’ll try to keep this shorter since you clearly didn’t read the whole post you were responding to.
1. I am a medical user who doesn’t want to “get ripped” (huge hits tend to give me a lot of anxiety).
2. Vaporizers don’t care what kind of user you are.
Some like the FP allow anything from a barely noticeable amount of vapor to huge clouds and can be used for a long session or one tiny draw. I generally prefer this to longer sessions that leave me couch-locked.
3. I’m not looking for a fight. I don’t want you to stop posting or stop loving and promoting the Plenty, I just want you to realize that we’re on the same side here.
The recommendations most of us are making are also good options for both recreational *and* medical users, people who want a mild effect and people who want the hardest hit possible.
If you still think there’s a difference we’re missing I’d be happy to talk about it, but please don’t treat us as the enemy man, we’re all just trying to give the best information and advice we can based on our experiences and what we’ve learned from other people here sharing their experiences.
I’m completely open to recommending the Plenty more if you can explain what makes the Plenty so special or point me to someone who’s explained it well (and if I agree on those points).
Can you offer us any insights?
1. I am a medical user who doesn’t want to “get ripped” (huge hits tend to give me a lot of anxiety).
2. Vaporizers don’t care what kind of user you are.
Some like the FP allow anything from a barely noticeable amount of vapor to huge clouds and can be used for a long session or one tiny draw. I generally prefer this to longer sessions that leave me couch-locked.
3. I’m not looking for a fight. I don’t want you to stop posting or stop loving and promoting the Plenty, I just want you to realize that we’re on the same side here.
The recommendations most of us are making are also good options for both recreational *and* medical users, people who want a mild effect and people who want the hardest hit possible.
If you still think there’s a difference we’re missing I’d be happy to talk about it, but please don’t treat us as the enemy man, we’re all just trying to give the best information and advice we can based on our experiences and what we’ve learned from other people here sharing their experiences.
I’m completely open to recommending the Plenty more if you can explain what makes the Plenty so special or point me to someone who’s explained it well (and if I agree on those points).
Can you offer us any insights?
ejackyou
Hamilton
@ejackyou I’ll try to keep this shorter since you clearly didn’t read the whole post you were responding to.
1. I am a medical user who doesn’t want to “get ripped” (huge hits tend to give me a lot of anxiety).
2. Vaporizers don’t care what kind of user you are.
Some like the FP allow anything from a barely noticeable amount of vapor to huge clouds and can be used for a long session or one tiny draw. I generally prefer this to longer sessions that leave me couch-locked.
3. I’m not looking for a fight. I don’t want you to stop posting or stop loving and promoting the Plenty, I just want you to realize that we’re on the same side here.
The recommendations most of us are making are also good options for both recreational *and* medical users, people who want a mild effect and people who want the hardest hit possible.
If you still think there’s a difference we’re missing I’d be happy to talk about it, but please don’t treat us as the enemy man, we’re all just trying to give the best information and advice we can based on our experiences and what we’ve learned from other people here sharing their experiences.
I’m completely open to recommending the Plenty more if you can explain what makes the Plenty so special or point me to someone who’s explained it well (and if I agree on those points).
Can you offer us any insights?
No,
I'm simply offering those who are new to cannabis whether for medical reasons or just
mental relief, and for those who I believe, are prudent in choosing Vaporizing as their chosen Approach,
The S&B PLENTY
SloJimFizz
Unknown Member
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steama
Well-Known Member
I owned a Supreme 3 but I never got comfortable using a powerful 1250F -1800F torch to heat the aluminum block. Even though the S3 produces thick tasty vapor, imo it is ignorant to consider this vape design safe at all. I have never had a worse feeling using any other vape. I do not trust the Supreme 3 so I sold it.
The Flower Pot, and all iterations of it, I know are completely 100% safe. It is also much more flexible than the S3 as we all know the Flower Pot can handle any type of material. You can do thick vapor bong hits or micro dose with the Flower Pot. I have the VROD and I must say it is the finest device I have ever used for pleasure or pain bar none.
Of course I'm not biased at all.
The Flower Pot, and all iterations of it, I know are completely 100% safe. It is also much more flexible than the S3 as we all know the Flower Pot can handle any type of material. You can do thick vapor bong hits or micro dose with the Flower Pot. I have the VROD and I must say it is the finest device I have ever used for pleasure or pain bar none.
Of course I'm not biased at all.
ejackyou
Hamilton
Yes! the sv3 seems a good concept if it works? like to see the principle explained in detail
don't know about all the aluminum though, not that titanium is proven safe.
Roth
Pining for the Mountains
What is "True Vaporizing"?
Been into vapes for years and first I'm ever hearing that term.
Let me see if I understand your logic here.... You are arguing that big hitters like the Supreme and FP are somehow a lower grade of vaporizer than the Plenty because the Plenty is "True Vaporizing" because it provides less vapor?
You're going to have to explain what "True Vaporizing" means to you. If you are implying that the other models are not truly vaporizing, you'll need to supply some evidence to support that claim.
You want to save new members from..... what exactly? Vaporizers that are powerful? That seems like a silly reply in a thread about comparing two hard-hitting models.
I wasn't aware of the fact that there are only two types of users. 1) Those that want to "get ripped" and 2) those that want to....get less ripped?
While I personally don't mind the "pot head" moniker, It seems that you are using it in a pejorative sense and that's not very nice. We have a rule about that kinda thing.
While this thread is not the place to talk about material safety, you might want to check into what the Plenty heat exchanger is made of.
@ejackyou these very knowledgable members have already tried to bestow knowlege upon you. So I only have 2 points to make:
You have got this all, so so terribly wrong and contorted in your imagination somehow.
And man, the sheer tone of your posts, on top of the innaccuracy of the content, made me wish more than ever that there was an unlike button for posts. Just saying.
You have got this all, so so terribly wrong and contorted in your imagination somehow.
And man, the sheer tone of your posts, on top of the innaccuracy of the content, made me wish more than ever that there was an unlike button for posts. Just saying.
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@ejackyou hey bro. I would just like to apologise for my above post which wasn't typical of me and not my usual tolerance friendliness. I am sorry it wasn't necessary for me to let off gas at you due to my own high stress. I was quite irritated by your stance and arguably patronizong tone, but I have nothing against you and no reason to dislike you so I am sorry for that.
You are without question missing a good few points on this. However I do actually understand what you are talking about and where you are coming from with this term true vaporization and and the distinction you draw between different devices.
You are bang on with this concept and I am particularly interested in this the different level of vapor quality between different models. In particular I'm forever going on about how certain vaporizers are much more effective and efficient at transferring and delivering the medicinal potential of the cannabis plant than others which fall mightily mightily short.
And there are very many vaporists, including self-professed medical uses are primarily using devices that in my opinion are not the most medicinal, with vastly inferior vapor quality to others.
And there does appear to be different types of vapor with different characteristics. If you were comparing some other devices and saying exactly as you are I would possibly agree with you.
But the Flowerpot IS a true vaporizer which I regard to be extremely effective in a medicinal sense and is one of my absolute top recommendations for the medical patient in need of strong support for a serious medical condition.
The fact that the Flowerpot churns out such copious amounts of dense bong-like smoke-like vapour so quickly and easily does not disqualify it from being a true vaporizer.
That is part of the magic of the device.
It works in as precisely controlled a manner as practically any digital desktop and can be fine tuned for each users exact specific requirements and preferences in a way that is perfectly replicable every time with practice and experience.
There is an enormous range of temperatures the Flower pot can be used that to produce excellent quality true vapor. In the 500-600 range (this is very low temp, actual air/bowl temp us probably about 180C to 190C between 550 and 580, but that is a guess) the taste is amazing and the vapor quality is absolutely top class.
The SV3- I don't have enough experience with to really discuss but I think you could be more open minded on that one as well just because a vaporizer is known as a monster big hitter and super powerful extractor this does not necessarily disqualify it from being a true vaporizer.
So I am actually with you on your line of thinking and this distinction you draw it is just not very accurate or applicable in this case and these comparisons.
Sorry again man for my unfriendly post above I definitely would not wish to deter you from feeling comfortable to express yourself freely here at all times please continue to do so, maybe just slightly more open mindedly perhaps.
You are without question missing a good few points on this. However I do actually understand what you are talking about and where you are coming from with this term true vaporization and and the distinction you draw between different devices.
You are bang on with this concept and I am particularly interested in this the different level of vapor quality between different models. In particular I'm forever going on about how certain vaporizers are much more effective and efficient at transferring and delivering the medicinal potential of the cannabis plant than others which fall mightily mightily short.
And there are very many vaporists, including self-professed medical uses are primarily using devices that in my opinion are not the most medicinal, with vastly inferior vapor quality to others.
And there does appear to be different types of vapor with different characteristics. If you were comparing some other devices and saying exactly as you are I would possibly agree with you.
But the Flowerpot IS a true vaporizer which I regard to be extremely effective in a medicinal sense and is one of my absolute top recommendations for the medical patient in need of strong support for a serious medical condition.
The fact that the Flowerpot churns out such copious amounts of dense bong-like smoke-like vapour so quickly and easily does not disqualify it from being a true vaporizer.
That is part of the magic of the device.
It works in as precisely controlled a manner as practically any digital desktop and can be fine tuned for each users exact specific requirements and preferences in a way that is perfectly replicable every time with practice and experience.
There is an enormous range of temperatures the Flower pot can be used that to produce excellent quality true vapor. In the 500-600 range (this is very low temp, actual air/bowl temp us probably about 180C to 190C between 550 and 580, but that is a guess) the taste is amazing and the vapor quality is absolutely top class.
The SV3- I don't have enough experience with to really discuss but I think you could be more open minded on that one as well just because a vaporizer is known as a monster big hitter and super powerful extractor this does not necessarily disqualify it from being a true vaporizer.
So I am actually with you on your line of thinking and this distinction you draw it is just not very accurate or applicable in this case and these comparisons.
Sorry again man for my unfriendly post above I definitely would not wish to deter you from feeling comfortable to express yourself freely here at all times please continue to do so, maybe just slightly more open mindedly perhaps.
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MoltenTiger
Well-Known Member
If you're in the market for a 'bad boy', I'd argue the Sublimator is the baddest. And would fully recommend one.
But, with the vapes in question, the Sup3 and the FlowerPot, they too allow for the realm of getting fully ripped.
So, as someone who gladly embarks on getting fully ripped - I would whole heartedly recommend avoiding anything from Storz & Bickel.
That would be counterproductive.
Furthermore, I would argue, that you can't get properly fully ripped with the VapCap.
I just used mine for the first time in months with lower than usual tolerance, it was impressive and amazing but it just can not compete with the aforementioned heaters and chamber sizes. The VC just does an engineered job for a certain small herb sample.
There's a whole separate realm beyond the VapCap.
I'd guess 'True Vaporizing' would allude to meaning low temp extraction causing minimal material damage.
Proper vaporisation is best achieved, however, with immense power and limited thermal fluctuation and range.
This is why the Sublimator is the baddest, because that thing is incredible at removing oil from plant matter with absolute consistency to the final waste product.
'False Vaporizing', I guess would allude to the VapCap and some others, where there is vast heat fluctuation during vaporisation and immense temp range between the heat source and the intended off-gas material. Typically the waste product (ABV) is uneven, partially deplete and scorched.
Being asked if you've used the Sup3 or the FP, the vapes on topic, is fairly relevant to answering this thread first and foremost, but also more than suitable when assumptions are made about them.
They are definitely capable of 'True Vaporizing', and I'm sure too they can do True Combustion, getting all up in this mystical partiality.
However, I've never used them. I am basically convinced the Sub is end game. There's no way I'd bother with a Plenty and fail to see any good reason, other than the fact vaping is awesome, to focus on it
But, with the vapes in question, the Sup3 and the FlowerPot, they too allow for the realm of getting fully ripped.
So, as someone who gladly embarks on getting fully ripped - I would whole heartedly recommend avoiding anything from Storz & Bickel.
That would be counterproductive.
Furthermore, I would argue, that you can't get properly fully ripped with the VapCap.
I just used mine for the first time in months with lower than usual tolerance, it was impressive and amazing but it just can not compete with the aforementioned heaters and chamber sizes. The VC just does an engineered job for a certain small herb sample.
There's a whole separate realm beyond the VapCap.
I'd guess 'True Vaporizing' would allude to meaning low temp extraction causing minimal material damage.
Proper vaporisation is best achieved, however, with immense power and limited thermal fluctuation and range.
This is why the Sublimator is the baddest, because that thing is incredible at removing oil from plant matter with absolute consistency to the final waste product.
'False Vaporizing', I guess would allude to the VapCap and some others, where there is vast heat fluctuation during vaporisation and immense temp range between the heat source and the intended off-gas material. Typically the waste product (ABV) is uneven, partially deplete and scorched.
Being asked if you've used the Sup3 or the FP, the vapes on topic, is fairly relevant to answering this thread first and foremost, but also more than suitable when assumptions are made about them.
They are definitely capable of 'True Vaporizing', and I'm sure too they can do True Combustion, getting all up in this mystical partiality.
However, I've never used them. I am basically convinced the Sub is end game. There's no way I'd bother with a Plenty and fail to see any good reason, other than the fact vaping is awesome, to focus on it
@MoltenTiger im with you on everything you say about the vapcap. I use one every day, but IMO it isnt nearly as true vapor as other devices. A very long way off, but nothing wrong with it, and very hard to be critical of it.
Just not the best vapor quality. And totally, dont ever really get ripped off my vapcap. I mean I dont even try. I use the Elev8r to take my head off. The vapcap I would use and praise more if the effect was more energizing and less sedative and lethargic.
If I only had the vapcap as my sole medicating device, I would be very depressed about that. Cannabis would not work nearly as well for me. I use my Omni daily but this is also due to me being intolerant to the vast majority of vaporizers I try. Like the MV1 I have just used twice and like quite a bit, but it just isnt going to work for me.
So I won't even use it again now. I know, so I will sell and cross it off.
The other which hasnt been mentioned here, or enough, is the Herborizer Ti. This is a little closer to the Sublimator in effects it has been said than some of the others. The new digital version is an upgrade to an already very powerful desktop that is easily one of the best desktops.
Vapor quality is exceptional, as is flavour. And like the Flowerpot, the vapor is as medicinal as it gets in my experience as far as my own bodliy intuition can tell me. There are numerous vaporists who used to use the Sub and are happily now using the Herbo Ti for its ease of use, smoother vapor, safety, faster heat up, and still amazing vapor quality and effects.
Im not trying to sell it, but it does deserve a mention. The DigiTi is more powerful and accurate with a more responsive and consistent heater to compensate faster for heat drops. Heat up time is inder 3 minutes now too. Only a handful of models out yet. I received the first unit, but I stupidly busted it with too high a temp trying to burn some rosin off the heater.
(I couldn't tolerate the rosin at all either, a similar immune reaction that doesn't occur with the same flower, in certain vapes).
So I need to send it to France for repair. I have lots to discuss with Seb too and the whole simple task (email, clean up, pack, post etc) is too much for me in my current condition. So is being delayed but Im looking forward to getting round to it. Priorities!
So anyway @MoltenTiger great post man Im with your logic for sure. So much we dont understand about vaping.
Just not the best vapor quality. And totally, dont ever really get ripped off my vapcap. I mean I dont even try. I use the Elev8r to take my head off. The vapcap I would use and praise more if the effect was more energizing and less sedative and lethargic.
If I only had the vapcap as my sole medicating device, I would be very depressed about that. Cannabis would not work nearly as well for me. I use my Omni daily but this is also due to me being intolerant to the vast majority of vaporizers I try. Like the MV1 I have just used twice and like quite a bit, but it just isnt going to work for me.
So I won't even use it again now. I know, so I will sell and cross it off.
The other which hasnt been mentioned here, or enough, is the Herborizer Ti. This is a little closer to the Sublimator in effects it has been said than some of the others. The new digital version is an upgrade to an already very powerful desktop that is easily one of the best desktops.
Vapor quality is exceptional, as is flavour. And like the Flowerpot, the vapor is as medicinal as it gets in my experience as far as my own bodliy intuition can tell me. There are numerous vaporists who used to use the Sub and are happily now using the Herbo Ti for its ease of use, smoother vapor, safety, faster heat up, and still amazing vapor quality and effects.
Im not trying to sell it, but it does deserve a mention. The DigiTi is more powerful and accurate with a more responsive and consistent heater to compensate faster for heat drops. Heat up time is inder 3 minutes now too. Only a handful of models out yet. I received the first unit, but I stupidly busted it with too high a temp trying to burn some rosin off the heater.
(I couldn't tolerate the rosin at all either, a similar immune reaction that doesn't occur with the same flower, in certain vapes).
So I need to send it to France for repair. I have lots to discuss with Seb too and the whole simple task (email, clean up, pack, post etc) is too much for me in my current condition. So is being delayed but Im looking forward to getting round to it. Priorities!
So anyway @MoltenTiger great post man Im with your logic for sure. So much we dont understand about vaping.
Morty
Well-Known Member
What did I miss 
@Alexis You had it right the 1st time
@Gray Area & @KidFated. Hope your doing well!
Head! 
@Alexis You had it right the 1st time
@Gray Area & @KidFated. Hope your doing well!
Head! Maybe, but I'd rather be nice than right.@Alexis You had it right the 1st time
Nice to see you about the place anyway, hope all us going well.