Stoners just aren't violent generally speaking

[LongIslandmom]

For everything that is going on the country today it seems like the obvious move is to legalize it everywhere

It should never be that it's legal in one state but illegal in another

When people drink sometimes fights break out. Look at the ray rice situation. Everyone seems to leave out that they were both blasted on alcohol which fueled the fight.

Get a bar whet everyone is getting high, they just aren't hitting or fighting they are just eating and watching tv.

So many people are turning to MJ. for pain relief; isn't that better than RX drugs like codeine?

Alcohol and tobacco consumption is so much more dangerous. Also we have a protocol with both substances to prevent it from getting in the hands of minors and to monitor it's sale.

In a country where we need to create more jobs this would be a no brainier job creator in every state. It would regulated, edibles would be monitored for amount and I believe some drug crimes would go down.

Pot is not going away. Shouldn't we just make sure it's safe and regulated?


I just don't get it

 

[215z]

Your hairbrained ideas benefit some people and hurt others.

My family wealth will be reduced if there is reduced demand for healthcare, law enforcement resources, and pharmaceutical products. I know many families who are in the same situation. Thank goodness we have gotten together to encourage politicians and working families to help suppress cannabis use.

I suppose I could get into the cannabis business, but it sounds like a lousy business. I can grow and sell cannabis, and if people like it they will just go grow it on their own at home. But instead, if I sell them tobacco, they will keep coming back because the homegrown stuff just doesn't hit like our enhanced tobacco cigarettes. Furthermore, they will consume a very large amount of healthcare services, which is great for my equity in hospitals, long term care facilities, and pharmaceutical companies.

You mentioned Codeine. Your margins selling codeine is way higher than margins selling cannabis. What are you thinking @LongIslandmom? It is like you're not even considering the bottom line here.

 

[Gunky]

Neither pharmaceutical companies nor producers of grain alcohol beverages want competition from our back yards, which they would get if cannabis were broadly legalized. Then or course there are the huge, entrenched interests in the police/prison/rehab/drug testing etc 'industry' which want this cash cow to remain. There is a lot of well-organized, deep-pocketed opposition.

 

[LongIslandmom]

You mean you don't want everyone to get health care?

Vermont is having a real problem with opiates. People are dying because they get addicted to pills. Want a child of yours to die of an overdose


Think it's good that many thousands of people die of every year of cancer from smoking tobacco


I didn't say anything about law enforcement; we need law police to stop real crimes like guns, robberies homicides. Stopping really bad drugs like coke, smack crystal myth


Death leaves you with no one to sell products and services to; how's that for a bottom line?

Were you really serious with this. People all over the country are finally getting some form of health
Care. Why is this bad

 

[Puffers]

@LongIslandmom
Fairly certain he was being facetious, while playing devils advocate.


Personally I don't like demonizing any substance and think that PEOPLE should be held responsible for their actions and not shifting blame to inanimate objects and substances around us.

I totally agree with your premise though. Legalize it!!

 

[Gunky]

I think he is being ironic/sarcastic/bitter.

 

[LongIslandmom]

I think so too

Wow that was a wake up call; bottom lines. Really?

 

[grokit]

Get a bar whet everyone is getting high, they just aren't hitting or fighting they are just eating and watching tv.

Considering that bars make their money from selling drinks, I can see the problem here.
Sell them weed like in an Amsterdam coffee house sports bar instead

 

[CarolKing]

Sounds like a plan @LongIslandmom. We are going through the transition of recreational legal cannabis in Washington state. We still have medical mj. The state has screwed the rec all up. They are also threatening to stop mmj and have everybody buy recreationally at higher prices. The state wants the money that cannabis will generate. That's natural I guess, it sounds like there is some greed involved. If the cannabis is too expensive they will be defeating their purpose.

The black market is still thriving due to no product and high prices in the recreational stores. The handful of stores that are open state wide that is. The voters in the state decided in Nov. of 2012. The state has had plenty of time to get this going.

Now the folks that use and need medical cannabis will be at the mercy of the state legislature come Jan. 2015. I am a mmj patient so needless to say this is a concern to me. Medical cannabis patients still need to have access to cannabis dispensaries.

I hope cannabis will be legal and a quality product everywhere. The states and countries need to go about it the right way. Get some consultants that knows what they're doing. Our state and Colorado are on the frontier of legalized cannabis. I suppose mistakes will happen. I would hate to see mistakes hurt a lot of innocent people that need to buy cannabis at a price that they can afford. Also having available the cannabis that helps their particular condition.

 

[lwien]

I would hate to see misstates hurt a lot of innocent people that need to buy cannabis at a price that they can afford.

Finding a compassionate dispensary can really help out.

I remember the first time I walked into CornerStone Research about 5 years ago. At that time it had a closed membership and the only way to get in was through a recommendation. I was in the waiting room and noticed that the owner of the dispensary was talking to a very frail looking lady who had to be in her mid to late eighties. I kinda eavesdropped and got that she has terminal cancer and was trying to find the right strain that would ease her pain. She was there with her daughter.

He spent over an hour with her (she was still there when I left), explaining how to dose with MJ and what strains she should try. She ended up walking out with a gram of each of 3 different strains and they were all comped to her.

Being that I was a first time patient and it was my first visit to a dispensary, I asked the budtender if they do that a lot and she replied that if any of their patients can't afford to pay for one reason or another, that they will comp them the bud.

I never took advantage of that because I never had to but it's comforting to know that if I did have to, they would take care of me.

Needless to say, I am a customer for life.

These are the guys I'm talking about: http://cornerstonecollective.com/

Edit: I've checked out a few other dispensaries just for kicks and it's been my experience that you can really tell the difference between those dispensaries who are geared towards the rec user and those geared to the medical users.

 

[mestizo]

Hi @lwien,

Have you checked Michael Backes (Cornerstone Research) new book, Cannabis Pharmacy?
It is the best book on the subject that I have come across, it is also an easy read.
He was at Buds and Roses dispensary a week ago, I was hoping he would stop by Cornerstone and sign it for me.
I remember him talking about it for a long time, I'm glad it is finally here.

Edit: He is really an outstanding person, and humble too, This following quote is from him on the last page of the book.
"What is good in this book came from others, while the errors are mine alone."

 

[lwien]

I knew that he was working on a book. When I first met him, he went by "Morpheus". When I first started going in, if I asked him a question about a particular strain, I'd be there for an hour. He just LOVED sharing what he knew, which was a LOT. Great guy. He was the one that was talking to that lady that I mentioned above.

I was really sad when he left CornerStone but he left behind a very knowledgeable crew.

I just found this vid of him being interviewed and I swear that I had some of the exact same conversations with him:

 

[mestizo]

I thought it was him when you said the owner, I had long conversations with him myself about my condition. I always said that if most dispensaries where like CRC, legalization would have been a lot easier, but who knows?
I just edited my last post, check it out.

 

[lwien]

I just edited my last post, check it out.

As did I. Check out the vid.

 

[mestizo]

As did I. Check out the vid.

I'm, as of right now.

Thanks.

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

I knew that he was working on a book. When I first met him, he went by "Morpheus". When I first started going in, if I asked him a question about a particular strain, I'd be there for an hour. He just LOVED sharing what he knew, which was a LOT. Great guy. He was the one that was talking to that lady that I mentioned above.

I was really sad when he left CornerStone but he left behind a very knowledgeable crew.

I just found this vid of him being interviewed and I swear that I had some of the exact same conversations with him:

Wow. Thank you very much for the video. I watch alot of MJ documentaries and videos. That was probably the best 35mins of MJ information I have ever seen. I enjoyed the level of detail he provides, you can tell he knows his stuff, he spoke about alot of topics, yet his answers were deeper than the typical weed enthusiast. Im going to have to watch it again

 

[lwien]

Wow. Thank you very much for the video. I watch alot of MJ documentaries and videos. That was probably the best 35mins of MJ information I have ever seen. I enjoyed the level of detail he provides, you can tell he knows his stuff, he spoke about alot of topics, yet his answers were deeper than the typical weed enthusiast. Im going to have to watch it again

Yeah, it was a great interview and while Michael (strange calling him that being that I always referred to him as Morpheus) did a great job, ya also gotta give kudo's to the interviewer. He asked some great questions.