Sticky Brick Junior by Sticky Brick Labs

whatitdew

whatitdew

Vapes R Great
So far I get the best results by:

Med fine grind
Load enough to cover the screen about twice (not tiny but not a big load)
Tamp load ever so lightly
Mouth piece reversed and flame intake turned to face right

I start drawing at a slow steady speed like for an Solo/Air
Eagle torch is at halfway
Light torch and bring in to about a inch or so from intake (inner blue flame) until I hear the whoosh of hot air and then Just try to hold it around that distance. Next hit will be closer to intake. Stir after 2nd hit.
It's all about hearing that sound and then feeling the warm vapor
You can't be too aggressive or you will combust

Tried a arizer top hat screen, fits loosely on top rim of oven. Did not notice any improvement seemed to be worse actually.
 
pushpaw

pushpaw

Well-Known Member
Alright. A bit more testing with a screen up in the metal ring thing and I am still liking the results. I compared the screen I used against the screens that come with the Jr and I was wrong, the one I used is larger and coarser mesh. I have a bunch of them and I don't remember what they were originally for now. They are totally just the screens you would put in a big bowl.

Hang with me here, it may get a little wobbly. I am pretty fucking baked.

I loaded a fresh bowl, a fair sized one that was about 2/3 of the bowl before a light tamp down. I hit it with a pretty good size flame, nearly as big as I usually use on the bigger brick. 1st hit was a big, solid one. I don't mind it when the first hit is lower temp because it's so tasty, but this was definitely a big high temp one. Super tasty still as first ones usually are, but denser and some of the higher temp flavors were dominant. Checked to see what it looked like, and I could totally see where there is a hot spot off to one side (can I change where it is by rotating the intake tube? must check later...) It had darkened up in that spot, but was not scorched just toasted.

Gave it a stir, and after a few minutes hit it again. I may have turned the torch down a touch before this one, I am not totally sure but I think I may have. Not much anyway. 2nd hit was also huge, and I thought that I may have combusted, but nope. Pretty dark in that hot spot again but still not actually scorched. Dark-ish toast.

Gave it another stir (as long as I have opened it up to look, may as well) and set it aside for a bit. Later my lady gave it a go, two pretty good ones in a row for her (she takes smaller hits than I do) and same thing, I can see where the hot spot is but it's just good and toasted.

I've had two more after that and although I haven't emptied it out yet I am pretty sure it's close to cashed. I'll probably squeeze one more out of there.

I will repeat this experiment later and take some pictures. Or try to, anyway...

Edit to add: Here's a pic of the screen where I put it.
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The spot where it is a little discolored is not from using it like this (although it will probably go that way) but because before I stuck it in there I tested with a torch to confirm it would stop the flame.

Edit again to add: So I went for that one-more-hit and pushed it too far and combusted. Ah well. Finding those limits... :freak:
 
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Bravesst

Bravesst

Full Steam Ahead
Manufacturer
I find it easy to not scorch or char, just have be real conscious of flame distance and draw speed, power, carb. I also dropped a fine mesh screen on top of my bowl, which helped cool things down even more.

I am happy to announce my Brick has found a temporary home -- my wood shop. It's perfect for that quick, tasty blast and back to work. Love the durability factor.

My shop time just got awesome. Gonna be bldg lots of stuff this winter. :cool:
 
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Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
One thing I dislike of my SBjr, since day 0.

That being screws heads and magnet, while usefull they are aestetically not very pleasant

So while rubbing beeswax on it I did this:

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You can still see them but I like it even more this way.
Maybe hard coulored wax could be better but surely harder to apply
 
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Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
WakeAndVape said:
While screws might not be the most ascetical thing in the known universe...I think it makes me more comfortable than glues..

Like the beeswax visual mute though.

I need to locate my wax or get some more...we're due for a sand and protection coat!
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I forgot to add smiling face after dislike :) meaning I like SBJr very very much

And TBH I like magnet solution too for all that is really important like effectiveness, durability and most of all safety
 
Slow Draw McGraw

Slow Draw McGraw

Well-Known Member
Company Rep
Hey everyone,

Hope your week has been going well. I wanted to let everyone know that any items purchased after Sept. 22, 2016 will have a 7 day delay on shipping due to Sticky Brick Labs attending Champs Trade Show in Denver, Colorado. Booth#329
So you have until this coming Thursday to get anything ordered and shipped. We apologize for any inconvenience this will cause anyone.
Feel free to PM me with any questions.

Peace,
Slow Draw
 
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vapeape77

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After reading @WakeAndVape post about a dry hitting Jr before packing, gave me the idea to just torch the glass before putting it back together with the herb ready in lower section. Bang! Best session yet, I kept the intake hot not taking much time between hits, rotating the eagle torch around the the glass flare area . Very tasty and stony with such a small amount, perfect light brown avb since mixed every second rip.
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WakeAndVape

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
vapeape77 said:
After reading @WakeAndVape post about a dry hitting Jr before packing, gave me the idea to just torch the glass before putting it back together with the herb ready in lower section. Bang! Best session yet, I kept the intake hot not taking much time between hits, rotating the eagle torch around the the glass flare area . Very tasty and stony with such a small amount, perfect light brown avb since mixed every second rip.
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Glad I could help, that dry out hit is essential to having cloud chasing success with the brick...

Some folks like @Bravesst have drying rituals to optimize performance from the gate...

I don't do this mainly because I like to taste the moist hit to detect impurities or fertilizer...maybe it's all in my head though.

@Slow Draw McGraw thanks for the update as always! The expo sounds like good shit.
 
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Andreaerdna

If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
I tryied 4 flame torch without mighty capsule..yak scorched hyper fast
@WakeAndVape @nondarb I better understand why you seemed quite surprised :) natively (without capsule or some other screen or heat shield) 4flame is decidedly overkill, but with capsule this stays my favorite way to heat.

Mini hydro also is too complicated with daily use (broke my two fakebombs in two days :( )
 
WakeAndVape

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
Andreaerdna said:
I tryied 4 flame torch without mighty capsule..yak scorched hyper fast
@WakeAndVape @nondarb I better understand why you seemed quite surprised :) natively (without capsule or some other screen or heat shield) 4flame is decidedly overkill, but with capsule this stays my favorite way to heat.

Mini hydro also is too complicated with daily use (broke my two fakebombs in two days :( )
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Do the mighty capsules fit loosely? I think my beta model might have too big of a bowl to house a dosing cap...bummer.

When my production model arrives...I'm all over that shit!

Wtfanyway said:
Are any of the daisy people involved in this project?
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Nope...new company.

@Slow Draw McGraw ...thanks man, I pride myself on my amateur photographer skills...and the junior is always welcome inspiration!
 
Gregori

Gregori

CannaBoss
Good morning everyone,

First of all, I got Junior in about 10 days from SBLabs. That's great service (for overseas). Well done!

After a little week of use, I must admit that the Junior is all I was expecting. I'm using and loving a Daisy for quite a long time now but her size and glass parts are not easy to bring on the go.
Thanks to the SBJ, I can now get my favorite convection on demand vape everywhere with me. Huge good point!

Another good point is that, to me, the SBJ is more efficient than Daisy. Less material, huge sweet clouds. Great!

I used the Eagle torch that came with the vape but I prefer my vapman lighter (in fact a chinese copy).

The only thing I'm not fond of is the necessity to turn the mouthpiece to use it easily. So I just switch it and have to turn a bit my head on the side to get that visual feedback.

PS : And thanks to SBLabs my Daisy is now complete again. Thank you for that o-ring for it's not possible to get US-sized o-ring here in Belgium.
 
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Vapor_Eyes

Vapor_Eyes

taste buds
I've been experimenting with a new technique with Junior after reading all this talk about scorching and charring.

I've been pretty lucky and haven't had too much trouble with that, although I almost always have a "hot spot" of centralized heat and extraction. It can get toasty in there but not charred unless I push it too far.

I used to go for long sustained hits, using the carb and flame distance to regulate temperature. If going for a big hit I would try to hit it as long as possible which got me into trouble a couple of times.

Lately I've been experimenting with using only draw speed to regulate temperature.

I keep the intake pointed forward, I find it easier to keep an eye on everything this way. I keep the carb closed the whole time I'm heating, and only use it to clear the hit.

I use a strong flame, about an inch, maybe more. I generally place it centered in the intake, with the angle matching the intake, ~45°, or pointed down a little bit more, towards the carb. Pointing down a bit seems to raise the temperature and milk it more.

I keep the outer light blue flame flush with the intake, or just a little inside the intake.

I start with a medium to slow draw speed. Once I start to see good vapor I increase draw speed as much as possible. This makes for a shorter hit as I run out of lung capacity much sooner. However, I've found it still gives big, dense hits, and they're actually more concentrated than the hits from my old technique because I'm not opening up the carb.

So the hits are at least as big, but they feel bigger, and they're very smooth because of the fast draw speed. And the best part is I find this technique almost eliminates hot spots. Even with my massive hits there is no hot spot at all until the very end of the bowl when everything is dried out and almost spent. The bowl stays greener for longer than before, with more consistent performance from hit to hit.

This technique is actually allowing for a more even extraction than I'm used to with my Brick. I'm going to have to adjust my technique with that based on what I've learned with Junior.
 
WakeAndVape

WakeAndVape

VapeLife X
Washburnian said:
Anyone order one from Australia? If so, how long did it take to arrive?
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I'm not sure...but be the first one down under with a Brick...You'll make history!

@Gregori nice to see you on the other side of this convo, with one in hand.

I told you good things were coming and SB is a good stand up dude that will send you O-Rings and other things to make your vapes complete.
 
jrcmang

jrcmang

Well-Known Member
Junior and I are getting along much better now! I finally nailed down my technique and all my combustion/charring issues have disappeared. Don't get me wrong...it's still much easier to char with junior but with practice it is easily avoidable IMO.

After getting really frustrated with Jr. I had to put him down. Went back to my vapcap and brick senior rotation for a few days. After a lengthy evening with senior and getting just fantastic results, I thought I would give Jr. another go. Well something clicked and I'm getting results on par with senior now. Previously I was so consumed with paranoia about flame length/distance, draw speed, etc. that I was neglecting my overall draw/carb technique. When I picked up junior again, I just started drawing and carbing exactly as I would with senior. Boom...instant game changer for me. This was not conscious either...it didn't dawn on me until after I had some time to sit and think about why my results were so different. Still have to be careful on draw length and torch distance...junior is much more sensitive IMO. But the key for me was ripping junior exactly like I rip senior. So my advice to anyone having issues with junior but love brick senior...take a break from junior for a few days and exclusively use senior. Then come back to junior. Just thought I would share a little tip that made a night and day difference for me.
Few notes on my technique.
  • No grind. Break up small little nugs. Might load max .05-.07 each time. I usually go with what I would load into my vapcap.
  • Use the eagle torch set to medium.
  • Start drawing with flame close. Right when I start seeing vapor I pull back then start doing my 3 carb feathering technique. I never let any part of the flame actually hit the intake glass though. I maintain probably a 1.5-2 inch distance from the intake. But really I just pay attention to how dense the vapor is and I adjust my torch distance accordingly.
  • I stir after each hit. Probably don't need to but I'm a little OCD.
  • Usually able to cash out a bowl in 7-8 rips. ABV is a dark green consistency. Could probably push more but at that point I'm super medicated and have no need.
  • Oh one other big thing...junior screen gunks up way faster IMO. I've had to change screens twice because of how gunked up they were. I noticed performance dropping off and scorching. Dumped the load and noticed the airflow was really restriced. Pulled the screen and it was super gunked up on the bottom side of it. So if you start getting scorching after a while of good use, check your screen and airflow.

I do have another question that maybe some of the sticky brick fam can help answer and ease my concerns. I've noticed a few times when I've been really medicated that my torch aim is a little off and I'm not directly hitting the hole....ha!!!! Like the flame is closer to one side of the intake glass. Well a few times I've noticed a little smoke come up. I don't seem to smell anything and I don't see any charring on the wood. Could this be the silicone o ring getting too hot and releasing some smoke? Never worried about that with brick senior but with junior the intake is much shorter and it gets much hotter. Does the temp ever get hot enough to compromise the silicone? Or could the smoke I saw just have been a few herb particles that made their way up the intake tube? I know there are health issues with silicone offgassing so this just has me a little concerned.

Edit: I received a message from @StickyBricks addressing the o-ring temp situation. My concerns are alleviated. Love this company! Anyways he said I could post the response...see below.

"The o-rings are high temp rated silicone and chosen specifically for our use. They are rated to 1300•F for use in machines and other high friction applications and should not have any problem handling junior temps. There are other silicone o-rings that are black that would not be good for high temp situations, and we highly recommend not using them as replacements.

Occasionally there is some splintering in the air circulation hole just under the flame intake. We try to ream out that hole, but we can't always get every piece and that would be my best guess as the cause to the smoke. I also think you may be right about small pieces of herb getting up in the stainless as I've noticed some residual buildup in that piece that might come from blowback. "
 
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