SSV Iso Wand Hash

[TankHankerous]

I went through about an ounce and a half and I think it's time for the first wand/tube cleaning.

I tried scraping it with the poker a couple of weeks ago but it was a weak yield. Now I want to try the iso cleaning method to get all of the reclaim.

Some questions for those who have done this before:

Does it make sense to put the wand in the freezer for a bit before shaking the alcohol around in it? How about warming up the iso? I heard a couple of things on different forums but I figure I would come here for the final verdict since this is strictly a vaporizing community.

I have already seen AZVaporTrail's video on youtube, I know he posts here especially in the SSV thread. Any suggestions/tips/advice on how to do this process to gain the most reclaim is greatly appreciated.

Here are a few pics of my SSV I took a couple weeks ago:

Now that I looked over this thread, maybe I should have posted it in the Plug-In Vaporizers Sub Forum in the SSV thread. Doh!

 

[z9]

No need to freeze when you aren't washing plant matter. I don't know what type of tube the ssv comes with, some tubing is safe with alcohol and some supposedly leaches plasticizer. I've seen the nasty residue that plasticizer leaves on the copper waterblocks in my PC and I wouldn't want to take the chance of getting that in my oil. So personally, I'd never soak the tubing in alcohol. You'd probably be fine running alcohol through the tubing to get some of the resin out but I wouldn't do more than that.

Just soak the glass in room temperature iso for a couple hours, filter then purge. I usually put my alcohol and glass pieces on a candle warmer or something when I'm collecting reclaim; even when I used to clean the tar off my glass when I combusted I'd heat it because it seems to work better. Either way the end product will still be the same.

Happy cleaning! I love me some reclaim.

 

[TankHankerous]

Thanks for your response!

The SSV tubing is made of silicone so it is safe to use with alcohol.

I didn't know you had to soak the wand. I thought that shaking up some 91% iso in the wand for a couple of minutes would be enough to get the oil off....

So if I soak the wand for a couple of hours, I pour that solution through a coffee filter. Next, let the shit that went through the coffee filter evaporate. Finally, purge with a double boiler or something....?

Sorry for the newb questions, I wanna make sure I do this right!

 

[treeman]

Doing an iso wash with a filter would yield higher purity and a more dab-able product but I find the fastest method I have found of cleaning my DBV wand is as follows:

Using ordinary lighter (a bic would do) warm the wand while holding it by the GonG bit, keep running the flame along it for a minute or so.
Then using a knitting needle you can scrape all the wand hash off in a oner very easily. Takes 2 minutes and you have a nice glob of highly potent, very vaporizable wand hash. Of course if your looking for increased potency you'd be better taking the solvent route. Although wand hash already produces intense clouds.

 

[TankHankerous]

Thanks treeman, I always wanted to try the solvent route. I figure what better place than here, what better time than now? Anyway, I'm going to make sure I gather everything I need in order to do the reclaim by this upcoming weekend. Until then I'm going to need your help to learn all I can about the process, please post any advice here.

Pics and video of wand hash run to follow, stay tuned!

 

[z9]

Like treeman said, it'll be more dab able if you filter it. But if you plan on putting the oil back in the vape then I wouldnt filter. Shaking it will speed things up but if you have a serious build up I'd let it sit longer to make sure that you get all the oil off. Soaking it for longer definitely won't hurt anything.

Claim that reclaim then, reclaim it again! Its the circle of life.

 

[2clicker]

The SSV tubing is made of silicone so it is safe to use with alcohol.

im pretty sure the SSV tubing is not silicone. they claim they have it made especially for them, but do not disclose what the material is.

i never soak my 7th Floor tubing. i just chalk it up as a loss. i have considered using some sections of glass tubing creating an almost chain of glass and tubing so that more can be extracted, but havent.

silicone tubing collects LOTS of dust and lint just from laying around. it sucks for SSV/DBV tubing. the stuff 7th Floor is selling is a vinyl tubing if im not mistaken. not sure about using solvents with it.

 

[treeman]

The first time I tried to reclaim what I did was put the mouthpiece end of the whip back into the wand and filled the whole thing with iso so it was like a ring. I let it to soak overnight before collecting and the standard DBV whip tubing (I'd imagine to be the same as the SSV tubing) looked like it had kinda shrank, it had white marks right along it. It really did not look right and the end product was strange as well, I wouldn't let the alcohol near it again.

 

[TankHankerous]

im pretty sure the SSV tubing is not silicone. they claim they have it made especially for them, but do not disclose what the material is.

i never soak my 7th Floor tubing. i just chalk it up as a loss. i have considered using some sections of glass tubing creating an almost chain of glass and tubing so that more can be extracted, but havent.

silicone tubing collects LOTS of dust and lint just from laying around. it sucks for SSV/DBV tubing. the stuff 7th Floor is selling is a vinyl tubing if im not mistaken. not sure about using solvents with it.

Thanks for 2clicker! I'm glad I came to FC to clear up any questions I thought I had the answer to.

The first time I tried to reclaim what I did was put the mouthpiece end of the whip back into the wand and filled the whole thing with iso so it was like a ring. I let it to soak overnight before collecting and the standard DBV whip tubing (I'd imagine to be the same as the SSV tubing) looked like it had kinda shrank, it had white marks right along it. It really did not look right and the end product was strange as well, I wouldn't let the alcohol near it again.

Treeman, I can totally visualize the ring with the iso inside it. Sounded like a good idea, but too bad about the solvent interaction. I haven't soaked my tube yet, so that's a good thing. I'll check out some more threads on here and see what tubing is compatible with the SSV and alcohol.

 

[Tweek]

I just draw hot air through the wand, and then scrape the inside with my pick. After a few swipes, I end up with a nice little gooey ball.

 

[TankHankerous]

Tweek, I tried that before and it worked well. This time though, I have built up a good amount and I want to get the wand fully clean. I'm guessing my final yield of product will be around .5. I haven't decided if I'm going to reclaim from the tubing this time, we'll see what I learn by the weekend.

 

[2clicker]

Thanks for 2clicker! I'm glad I came to FC to clear up any questions I thought I had the answer to.

no sweat blood. welcome to the fun.

 

[420GanjX]

Is there any harm in using a plastic baggy to hold your wand and iso in to soak. I've already made some ISO wandhash reclaim which I have not scraped off my plate yet but just started thinking if the ISO could possibly extract any unwanted chemicals/substances from the plastic which could end up in my hash

 

[vaporonly]

I just draw hot air through the wand, and then scrape the inside with my pick. After a few swipes, I end up with a nice little gooey ball.

i concur, why use poisonous solvents if you don't have to

Is there any harm in using a plastic baggy to hold your wand and iso in to soak. I've already made some ISO wandhash reclaim which I have not scraped off my plate yet but just started thinking if the ISO could possibly extract any unwanted chemicals/substances from the plastic which could end up in my hash

I wouldn't use plastic bags and iso in anything to be consumed after

 

[theCerberus]

99% iso can eat through plastic, while 70% wouldnt. They sell 70% alcohol in fairly cheap plastic bottles in Canada. Perhaps if it is extremely thin plastic and a really long time it could break it down.

just hold/cover both ends of the tube and shake the iso inside, no bag needed.

as for the safety of iso, thats a very old discussion; the added methanol part is the danger, while ethanol is safe.
However the methanol is basically only dangerous if not effectively filtered and evaporated out, which is assumed you are going to do.
If you want to be really safe, best bet is to find some grain alcohol like everclear, but that isnt available everywhere.

 

[vaporonly]

99% iso can eat through plastic, while 70% wouldnt. They sell 70% alcohol in fairly cheap plastic bottles in Canada. Perhaps if it is extremely thin plastic and a really long time it could break it down.

just hold/cover both ends of the tube and shake the iso inside, no bag needed. as for the safety of iso, thats a very old discussion; the added methanol part is the danger, while ethanol is safe.
and the methanol is basically only dangerous if not effectively evaporated out.
best bet is to find some grain alcohol like everclear, but that isnt available everywhere.

the type of plastic is also important, don't think they are the same kind.

Thanks for your response!

The SSV tubing is made of silicone so it is safe to use with alcohol.

from the ssv website: """this premium quality hose we offer is the best hose on the market. It is far better than silicon tubing because it does not collect all the dirt and oils from you hands."""

http://silversurfervap.com/accessories/ssv-accessories-and-gear/replacement-hose-3ft.html

 

[420GanjX]

So is my hash unsafe to consume then because it was extracted in a ziplock bag? Ive already vaped 3 chunks of it and tried smoking one, but still have over half my hash left. Should I cut my losses and toss this for the health concern or am I safe to keep throwing this hash into my bowls?

 

[NeeChee]

I was wondering instead of scraping plates of iso wand hash.Has anyone tried just soaking their wands in a mason jar of everclear? Then after many cleanings and when its a good honey brown color take shots of the stuff? I would be careful to use stainless tools to place and remove wands so my hands never touch liquid. I just figured it might make for an interesting cocktail without all the mess.

 

[Tweek]

I was wondering instead of scraping plates of iso wand hash.Has anyone tried just soaking their wands in a mason jar of everclear? Then after many cleanings and when its a good honey brown color take shots of the stuff? I would be careful to use stainless tools to place and remove wands so my hands never touch liquid. I just figured it might make for an interesting cocktail without all the mess.

Yes, you can soak your wand if you wish.

 

[NeeChee]

Yes, you can soak your wand if you wish.

Has anyone tried drinking it? If its ok to smoke after air drying why not take a quick shot.

 

[Tweak]

Has anyone tried drinking it?

I believe they call it the Green Dragon, but they are made with fresh material.

I always use solvents because I like to get my glass spotless so it doesn't impart taste on a new session. Has anyone noticed a difference in taste between solvent vs scraping wand hash?

I use a dropper and a mason jar, so I don't have to use a lot of ISO. Do you guys think that a dropper is safe?

Keep sucking it up and rewashing the inside of the SSV wand, this keeps me from having to touch the ISO as you would via shaking the wand. Using heated ISO and a pick to scrape the sides will speed up the process. I've found the ear picks work great for scraping, much better than the stock pick.

The only time I use the freezer is after you evaporate the ISO, the reclaim is quite sticky. Freezing it makes it a lil' more manageable and easier to remove from a plate.

 

[NeeChee]

I just started claiming my iso hash when i thought of the everclaer cocktail.What is the best way to use the the iso hash/oil? I tried putting a drop on a small peice of bud and it kept burning like THC napalm! Should i get some kind of dome rig so i don't waste so much good smoke or just ues a tiny,tiny bit?

 

[(We'll call him B)]

So let me get this straight, there is a way to do dabs in the ssv? WHAAAA?!

 

[grokit]

7th floor has an oil kit, here's a thread on the one for dbv; I don't know if the ssv one is any different.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/da-buddha-dab-kit-nail.8427/

 

[(We'll call him B)]

Holy JESUS! Why have I not seen this!? I weep for all of the wasted dabs.... I burned them all! I'm a monster!!! NOAH!