Gonna give some background and then criteria, and hopefully you experienced user can help me find what exactly I need.
So about a year ago I "invested" in a $60 vape pen from a local smoke shop. Pretty sure it was an AtmosRaw ripoff but I don't remember what it was BECAUSE the day I got it, I was walking around outside using it and was pretty medicated, annnnnnd dropped it in a 2mm deep puddle. Fried whatever circuits were in it and of course there was no warranty from the shop. However it seemed fine with the few hits I took, was able to use without being too suspicious and activated the ingredients.
A few months ago, my friend got a launch box, and from the times he let me use it, it seemed great. Best part was that the smell was faint, if anything, and dissipated in a few minutes or so, and there was no visible clouds unless you ripped it really hard. I'm not a fan of that though, as I have weak lungs and cough even when using buddy's e-cigs that use those flavored oils.
Price - I'd be really uncomfortable purchasing anything over $150, and would definitely prefer keeping it at or under a benjamin. $120 for the MFLB pack on puffitup is reasonable to me, though cheaper is always better.
Delivery system - I only smoke about once a week currently, but if the vape is stealthy enough and conserves flower, max I could see myself doing is once in the morning, once at night, every other day or so. ----Needs to be portable---- I can't afford a nice desktop one, and couldn't hide it or the smell. Sometimes will share with friends, so for an item like MFLB I will buy and keep extra batteries around.
Efficiency - This is important. I do not want big clouds at all. Frankly, it doesn't impress me, I'd like to conserve, and I'll be taking small hits anyway.
Manufacturer - No preference really...... as long as its trustworthy here in this community.
Stealth - The most important part about stealth here is the smell lingering... I can't have anything that will stink up a room much. Doesn't need to look like an everyday object or be super duper small, as I live in California and smoking is pretty common. To be honest, the key thing is that the vapor wont smell anymore than loading up the vape. Like with the MFLB, grinding it up and loading the trench smelled more that the actual vapor. That's incredibly helpful and I hope most vapes are like that.
Learning curve - I believe this applies mostly to desktops, but I'm fine with wasting a little bit to figure out proper ways for the piece.
Temperature control - Would be nice to have (read about benzene being produced over 360 degrees) but to be honest I'm not that worried. I've (in the past) engaged in far more damaging drugs than hot plants.
(criteria not in the things to consider thread)
Ingredients (idk what you all call it here but the good stuff) - Oil, Wax, Shatter, Flower, doesn't matter. I have only dabbed once because the equipment for that isn't available to me personally that often, but as I said, California, so I can get my hands on anything really. Is wax best for vapes? I don't know to be honest so any advice here would be great. It seems as though flower vapes are much more expensive though, and if thats true, id rather just start buying wax/oils instead.
Water Adapter - Would be nice if the model had a pipe adapter for this or something to use for a bong but not necessary. No clue what the terminology is here, sorry ;/
TL;DR Price is #1 priority and Stealth is #2.
Now for models I've looked at, Solo would be great if it wasn't 200, has everything great but price is too much, I'd be willing to sacrifice a warranty if someone knows where I can get it for $120 ish. MFLB might be what I end up getting, as I have some experience with it. The Hammer looked cool, not sure if I like the idea of using butane instead of charging, also somewhat big... (bigger than my palm it seems) but if someone can vouch for it, theres a 420 sale dropping the price to almost less than 100 so it might be a viable option. Also saw the Da Vinci here which looks FANTASTIC but it is very possibly a cheap knockoff that would do more damage with fumes than good www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM8181375717?hlSellerId=33759&ci_src=184425893&ci_sku=SPM8181375717&sid=IDx20131030xMPHWxCPA15
Thank you very much to anyone in advance that can help me out here.
So about a year ago I "invested" in a $60 vape pen from a local smoke shop. Pretty sure it was an AtmosRaw ripoff but I don't remember what it was BECAUSE the day I got it, I was walking around outside using it and was pretty medicated, annnnnnd dropped it in a 2mm deep puddle. Fried whatever circuits were in it and of course there was no warranty from the shop. However it seemed fine with the few hits I took, was able to use without being too suspicious and activated the ingredients.
A few months ago, my friend got a launch box, and from the times he let me use it, it seemed great. Best part was that the smell was faint, if anything, and dissipated in a few minutes or so, and there was no visible clouds unless you ripped it really hard. I'm not a fan of that though, as I have weak lungs and cough even when using buddy's e-cigs that use those flavored oils.
Price - I'd be really uncomfortable purchasing anything over $150, and would definitely prefer keeping it at or under a benjamin. $120 for the MFLB pack on puffitup is reasonable to me, though cheaper is always better.
Delivery system - I only smoke about once a week currently, but if the vape is stealthy enough and conserves flower, max I could see myself doing is once in the morning, once at night, every other day or so. ----Needs to be portable---- I can't afford a nice desktop one, and couldn't hide it or the smell. Sometimes will share with friends, so for an item like MFLB I will buy and keep extra batteries around.
Efficiency - This is important. I do not want big clouds at all. Frankly, it doesn't impress me, I'd like to conserve, and I'll be taking small hits anyway.
Manufacturer - No preference really...... as long as its trustworthy here in this community.
Stealth - The most important part about stealth here is the smell lingering... I can't have anything that will stink up a room much. Doesn't need to look like an everyday object or be super duper small, as I live in California and smoking is pretty common. To be honest, the key thing is that the vapor wont smell anymore than loading up the vape. Like with the MFLB, grinding it up and loading the trench smelled more that the actual vapor. That's incredibly helpful and I hope most vapes are like that.
Learning curve - I believe this applies mostly to desktops, but I'm fine with wasting a little bit to figure out proper ways for the piece.
Temperature control - Would be nice to have (read about benzene being produced over 360 degrees) but to be honest I'm not that worried. I've (in the past) engaged in far more damaging drugs than hot plants.
(criteria not in the things to consider thread)
Ingredients (idk what you all call it here but the good stuff) - Oil, Wax, Shatter, Flower, doesn't matter. I have only dabbed once because the equipment for that isn't available to me personally that often, but as I said, California, so I can get my hands on anything really. Is wax best for vapes? I don't know to be honest so any advice here would be great. It seems as though flower vapes are much more expensive though, and if thats true, id rather just start buying wax/oils instead.
Water Adapter - Would be nice if the model had a pipe adapter for this or something to use for a bong but not necessary. No clue what the terminology is here, sorry ;/
TL;DR Price is #1 priority and Stealth is #2.
Now for models I've looked at, Solo would be great if it wasn't 200, has everything great but price is too much, I'd be willing to sacrifice a warranty if someone knows where I can get it for $120 ish. MFLB might be what I end up getting, as I have some experience with it. The Hammer looked cool, not sure if I like the idea of using butane instead of charging, also somewhat big... (bigger than my palm it seems) but if someone can vouch for it, theres a 420 sale dropping the price to almost less than 100 so it might be a viable option. Also saw the Da Vinci here which looks FANTASTIC but it is very possibly a cheap knockoff that would do more damage with fumes than good www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM8181375717?hlSellerId=33759&ci_src=184425893&ci_sku=SPM8181375717&sid=IDx20131030xMPHWxCPA15
Thank you very much to anyone in advance that can help me out here.
