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DabComa

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Damn no concentrates and 24/7 security required at "grow sites", I see prices going up for the honest guy and soon to be booming business for the black market people...
 
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The article was yanked, but it was poorly written so it's not much loss. The information in the body of the article contradicts the headline, which implies dispensaries will have to shut down under such harsh restrictions.


SAN JOSE, CA--(Marketwired - Jun 18, 2014) - Yesterday, the San Jose City Council passed an effective ban on medical marijuana collectives. The regulations require all concentrates, edibles and topicals be produced on-site, by the collective. Medical marijuana vendors statewide will not be allowed to provide any products to collectives in San Jose. Outdoor growing and medical marijuana patients ages 18 to 20 are banned from working at, or even getting medication from, collectives.​


I get it..producing concentrates and edibles on site can be a pain, but its hardly something that would put a highly-lucrative dispensary out of business. If state vendors of edibles and concentrates are shut out, so much better for the local vendors, who can join SJ collectives to sell their product. Not sure about the age restriction on MMJ patients, but it's not going to cause a huge loss of business.

I'm all for free access to cannabis for medical patients, but it seems to me there is this knee-jerk reaction against any restrictions placed on dispensaries that is overblown.
 
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The full article listed all the stipulations among them one being a law stating that the grow location (which can't be seperate from where it is dispensed, hence forcing both locations to be one and the same) must be under 24/7 365 surveillance, meaning someone has to pay for security guards, all year long. I highly doubt the owner is going to eat this cost, so the consumer becomes the funder, and an eighth costs 100$.

Hence why I say the black market will boom , where an eighth would be 40$ or less.

Not a "knee jerk" reaction, but simply a statement of fact.
 
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DabComa said:
The full article listed all the stipulations among them one being a law stating that the grow location (which can't be seperate from where it is dispensed, hence forcing both locations to be one and the same) must be under 24/7 365 surveillance, meaning someone has to pay for security guards, all year long. I highly doubt the owner is going to eat this cost, so the consumer becomes the funder, and an eighth costs 100$.

Hence why I say the black market will boom , where an eighth would be 40$ or less.

Not a "knee jerk" reaction, but simply a statement of fact.
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That'll certainly squeeze out the little guys. But aren't most major grow operations already under surveillance?

And @215z post brings up an interesting question. If the product must be grown at the vending location, how does delivery work then? If they allow delivery, then it seems there is a loophole about growing and vending location.
 
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@syrupy I'm guessing no delivery service will be able to set up shop in San Jose, because they can never comply with the sell-where-you-grow rule.

That said, how will the city enforce these rules on non-domiciled entities? Will city cops set up sting operations, asserting zoning violations when they arrest delivery drivers?

As for the surveillance requirements, pretty much anyone sitting on a million bucks of dope is already compliant. The city, by limiting the number of permitted dispensaries, has already been keping small businesses out of the white market for years. That pisses me off more than anything else.

My city is no better, capping permitted businesses. If more cities take this shitty approach, delivery services based in unincorporated areas will flourish, at the expense of city coffers.
 
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Yeah I wasn't too happy about the last city council meeting in SJ.

A club owner had a spot on the news (Medi-Marts). Supposedly he is already doing everything in line with their proposals, chuck reed said he was a good example of what a club should be in the City of SJ. No idea of the quality of their product, however.
 
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calimed

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It sounds to me like the future of canna business in the South Bay will be huge growing warehouses with a small shop in front...and a lot of them.

Would a 100-200lb harvest every 3 months be enough for a single club to stay open without running out of inventory?
 
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calimed said:
huge growing warehouses with a small shop in front...and a lot of them.
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A few of them, at they rate they permit them...
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Would a 100-200lb harvest every 3 months be enough for a single club
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The question isnt quantity but diversity. With limited on-site grow space, there will be an incentive to offer high-yielding strains at the expense of therapeutic variety.

This problem already exists with hardcore commercial growers, but that doesn't represent all vendors. I can get fringe strains and unruly sativas here, and my only explanation is someone is growing their favorite strains and vending the surplus. That won't happen with a single-vendor model.

Where will patients get outdoor sungrown meds? High CBD strains? Heirloom/Landrace strains?
 
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