Safest pick for 2018. Plz Help me choose

Berimbolo

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I've read a lot about portable vapes with low quality components, metals, bad air paths, off gassing and all sorts of other stuff that's really bad for you. Its 2018 and this stuff shouldn't be an issue.

I have owned a Solo and air in the past and have heard lots of bad stuff about the inside of the vape so I'm not going that way. I'm leaning towards buying the mighty or pax3 but I want some of your expertise in selecting. Anyone have any other good ones that have been proven to be safer?

Sorry if this has been posted before I didn't see any thread.
 
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Larrytreez

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I have pax3 and like it. It's my first one. 10 year warranty can't be beat. Get fine grinder, pack it good and get aftermarket screen from New vape. Many choices. What's your price range?
 
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blackstone

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If you don't want to wait until they launch improved/all new Mighty 2, Solo 3 or Pax 4 then i could also point out the 7th Floor Elev8r and the Supreme v3.
I preferred the Mighty to Pax3 so I replaced Pax3 with a Crafty. Great combo for me.
Maybe you could get a high quality, well priced or even secondhand desktop like SSV, LSV, HerbalAire, Plenty, while you wait for a really decent new electronic portable to come out or rise to the top.

The Cloud Evo, NV Flowerpot and Herborizer Ti are among the top names in direct draw desktops with isolated airpath, and good deals can sometimes be found on Volcano new and used.
 

jdent3

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Yes go to the website and follow the links.
:lol:

I just looked through the website and I cannot find anything about medical certification. It's weird everyone claims it has medical certification but cannot provide even one link.

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chimpybits

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The path to reach it (can't link directly for some reason) is minivap.com -> More Information Button -> scroll down -> click 3 Quality and Safety under the Specifications Heading. Listed there as having RoSH and CE certifications.
^ from Feb 2015 btw
 
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I think it really depends on your budget firstly. Once you've a rough idea of what your looking to spend that will narrow the options down. I've heard quite a postive reaction to the new DaVinci MIQRO? Also I really do like anything made by Storz & Bickel...found them incredibly reliable and currently own the Volcano. Best of luck :)
 
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jdent3

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I think it really depends on your budget firstly. Once you've a rough idea of what your looking to spend that will narrow the options down. I've heard quite a postive reaction to the new DaVinci MIQRO? Also I really do like anything made by Storz & Bickel...found them incredibly reliable and currently own the Volcano. Best of luck :)

The Miqro does look pretty good. From the videos I've seen it look like it's made of quality materials. I guess we will have to wait until the teardown though.
 
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habitat-fc

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I've heard people say the Minivap is medically certified but everytime I ask for proof there is none. Are you sure it is medically certified?

I don't know about medical certification but quoting from a review "The miniVap is the only portable vaporizer to have been submitted to the same test lab at Leiden University in the Netherlands for performance analysis as the Volcano. It matched the Volcano for THC levels and temperature reliability as well as lack of vapor impurities, off-gassing, etc."

This is the article:-

http://www.vaporizerblog.com/reviews/minivap-portable/
 

Seek

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I'm leaning towards buying the mighty or pax3 but I want some of your expertise in selecting.
If you are choosing between those 2 then you probably don't yet exactly know what you want and indeed would benefit from some expertise in selecting. BEcause those 2 are very very different. One is based on convection and one on conduction, and that provides very different usage.

Heating:

1) Conduction
- Heats up the bowl with herbs inside to make them hot and evaporate and lets you inhale cold air through to get in in your lungs.
- It vapes the herbs touching the bowl sides quicker than the inside. Usually need a couple of stirs between hits until it's finished.
- Makes more vapor if you wait a little between hits.
- When you hit it, dense vapor starts flowing immediately, but quickly fades into wispy low-temp vapor as you cool down the oven with room temperature air. Therefore it's best to take numerous small puffs with little waits in between to get best results.

2) Convection
- Heats up a heat exchanger separate from the bowl and you inhale the air through it then the heated air goes through the bowl making it hot and evaporate.
- It vapes a tunnel in the middle of the bowl, leaving the sides green. You stir it about 2 times max per bowl, the high quiality ones don't need stirring at all.
- You don't have to wait between hits for it to reheat (unless the heat exchanger is really small, like E-Nano).
- When you hit it, it may take few seconds for the vapor density to gradually build up, but it will keep being dense until the end of the hit (unless the bowl is finished). So you get a huge cloud if you take a long hit.

3) Radiation
- Shines on the transparent bowl, heating it up.
- Similar to conduction, heats up the sides, but more evenly.

One vape can also combine two or all of them.


Dynamics:

1) Session
- Has conduction or radiation heating and heats up slowly and cool down slowly.
- You turn it on, let it heat up, then take hits until finished, then turn it off.
- Not good for taking single hits.
Some examples: Mighty, Pax, davinci...

2) On-demand vapor
- Pure convection vapes, that take a while to heat up.
- You turn it on, and then you can take single hits. It won't vape when you are not hitting it.
- Can be used like session vape, but also for single hits, but it has to be preheated.
Some examples: EVO, E-Nano, SSV, DBV, LSV, EQ, Volcano...

3) On-demand heat
- Can be any type of heating, but has to heat up and cool down within seconds.
- You can take it from your pocket, push button, take a hit and then put it back in pocket.
- You have to be much miore carefull hitting it right, at right speed with right ammount of seconds of preheat. The 1 and 2 are easier and more consistent. On-demand heating ones can be tricky to master.
Some examples: MFLB (concuction and radiation), Grasshopper Ghost Milaana Splinter (convection)

I personally like pure convection vapes the most, which also means on-demand vapor.
Specifically the E-Nano, having it powered 24/7 on my desk and taking hits whenever I want.

Volcano and minivap have medical certification if that means anything to you.
That means they have the money and will to get these certifications. I'm pretty sure most good vapes would pass it too if they wanted and put the money in it. I think it should be the last deal-breaking thing you check. First, pick a vape that you would like, like I described above. Then check if their materials are questionable. All the popular vapes here have the consensus of being safe. If you really have to be sure, then pick the ones that only have stainless, ceramic or glass anywhere near the hot parts.
 

KC2K

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Had a generic pax 2, okay not the names brand but very little difference and I didn't like it, ended up giving it away. It was a great vape when the world's aligned and everything was bang on the way the vape like it... such a fiddly vape it just ruined the experience.

Then I invested in a Mighty and a couple of VapCaps. This was the best move ever. The Mighty is so simple and consisted it rocks! The VapCaps are a little more learning but wow i love them. Don't want to spend too much, get the Mighty and a basic M or a Ti Woody. All eventualities covered :)
 

Skunkport

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Does anyone actually know what 'medical certification' means exactly?

I see S&B have medical certificates from Canada and Israel, but no details on what the certificates require, I presume no off-gassing and safe components at least. Without knowing more though, I don't think they mean anything.

Look at a vapcap, vaponic, ELEV8R ect, all metal or glass in the air path, I'm sure they're equal or superior in vapor safety
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
I understand a lot of the certification goes toward the nature of the air path. Are there any materials in the air path that may off gas, deteriorate over time and or come loose and enter your airway (not cool). From my perspective there is no well established international authority to rely upon. I think FC and the Cannabis community are doing that on their own, the community pays back to itself, grass roots. Until Cannabis is dropped from Schedule I in the US, it will be awhile before this industry can do any better than this community, than you guys!! On that note, time for a FlowerPot hit. Respect! -YaMon
 
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