RSO

[karec]

Hi guys a quick question, im using ISO to clean all my vapes, grinder and stuff, my questions are:

Is the ISO ok after being in a jar for ages after multiple cleans and etc?

Can it be used after evaporation and purging?

Is there a "time limit" to use the ISO and transform to RSO?

Cheers and thx

 

[uncanni]

You should be able to tell when the iso is "used" enough so that there's too much stuff in it to do a good cleaning.

I would never ever ever use ISO for RSO.

 

[karec]

I would never ever ever use ISO for RSO.

Why? and whats your solution, all the vids i saw, including ones from Rick Simpson himself he was using ISO, yes should be purged and i agree that that grain alcohol could be better but i cannot find it where i live.
Cheers

 

[LesPlenty]

I use 100% iso for cleaning like you and I am just careful when purging (well ventilated and no naked flames). I have kept iso for many weeks before it gets too saturated to clean any more before purging. It does taste bad but my smoking friend likes it. (OK in caps as well I have heard).

 

[Ramahs]

I prefer Everclear.

 

[karec]

I keep every waste from the flower, i rather use all leftovers to do Rosin and keep real bud and kief/pollen for Rosin, i also use the ISO to clean all the reclaim from all vapes and grinders and eventually i will purge and use it, nowadays i won't vape it anymore i rather use Rosin (better taste by far) for that and only use RSO to eat or to use on skin problems mixed with olive oil, works great, my main question is, if its safe to use old used ISO to consume after purging and if by doing this wont mess with the RSO in the end.
Just because i know people using used ISO with ages to make RSO...
Cheers

 

[uncanni]

Why? and whats your solution, all the vids i saw, including ones from Rick Simpson himself he was using ISO, yes should be purged and i agree that that grain alcohol could be better but i cannot find it where i live.
Cheers

Because it's poison, and I wouldn't want the fumes in my house. You don't want to breathe tons of it. I didn't know anyone used it for making oil, but I guess if they use butane to make hash oil, I should have known. I wouldn't fk with any of the poisons.

I have an ExtractCraft Source machine for making concentrates and oil, it contains and recycles the Everclear. If that's not available where you live, see if you can order 200 proof Ethanol online.

 

[karec]

Because it's poison, and I wouldn't want the fumes in my house. You don't want to breathe tons of it. I didn't know anyone used it for making oil, but I guess if they use butane to make hash oil, I should have known. I wouldn't fk with any of the poisons.

I have an ExtractCraft Source machine for making concentrates and oil, it contains and recycles the Everclear. If that's not available where you live, see if you can order 200 proof Ethanol online.

I dont do inside my home i do it outside and i dont use any flame. ISO is used in RSO a lot i common use... your set is better but as long the oil its properly purged is safer to use orally, its not advise to vape.
Thank you for the ethanol tip
Cheers

 

[uncanni]

I dont do inside my home i do it outside and i dont use any flame. ISO is used in RSO a lot i common use... your set is better but as long the oil its properly purged is safer to use orally, its not advise to vape.
Thank you for the ethanol tip
Cheers

You say Cheers, so I get the impression you're not in the usa, but here's this anyway: https://www.extractohol.com/shipping-terms

 

[LesPlenty]

Same boat here, no Everclear or decent methanol and the Gov has made manufacturers put blue dye in metho to stop winos drinking it, the only option left here is iso.

 

[karec]

You say Cheers, so I get the impression you're not in the usa, but here's this anyway: https://www.extractohol.com/shipping-terms

Yes im in the EU, in Portugal, and ISO is, so far, the only solution... i use a rice cooker and when i do it i do it outside and im cautious when i do it... would be great to find ever clear and similar but not here....
Cheers

 

[C No Ego]

Yes im in the EU, in Portugal, and ISO is, so far, the only solution... i use a rice cooker and when i do it i do it outside and im cautious when i do it... would be great to find ever clear and similar but not here....
Cheers

the phytyocannabinoids will remain in solution for a long time... they are already about as oxidized as they will ever be from vaping them already so they will not oxidize further... I guess full destruction/deterioration of the compound into sloution would occur over many years of being suspended in that solution...
I read an article a while back , the guy had a cannabis crop lab tested and forgot a jar of the crop and found 5 years later sitting in an open room ( sunlight all day) ... he had that tested and the results were as they were originally... they suspected that CBN would have been the norm as it was old 5 year old cannabis... the tests showed the same exact compounds as @ harvest... the phytocannabinoids seem to be tough little buggers

 

[uncanni]

Yes im in the EU, in Portugal, and ISO is, so far, the only solution... i use a rice cooker and when i do it i do it outside and im cautious when i do it... would be great to find ever clear and similar but not here....
Cheers

Muito bem!! Tenha cuidado!!

the tests showed the same exact compounds as @ harvest... the phytocannabinoids seem to be tough little buggers

My understanding is that tincture stored in dark freezer will remain potent indefinitely. So funny to hear that even under less than ideal conditions, the goddess Cannabis maintains her strength.

 

[Momor]

Yes im in the EU, in Portugal, and ISO is, so far, the only solution... i use a rice cooker and when i do it i do it outside and im cautious when i do it... would be great to find ever clear and similar but not here....
Cheers

Here is an equivalent of everclear and they ship to Portugal
https://www.cavesduroy.fr/commande-en-ligne/vodkas/2847-spirytus.html

 

[C No Ego]

Muito bem!! Tenha cuidado!!



My understanding is that tincture stored in dark freezer will remain potent indefinitely. So funny to hear that even under less than ideal conditions, the goddess Cannabis maintains her strength.

I'm sure there are mosquitoes in some pine sap somewhere from millions of years ago with cannabis pollen or even phytocannabinoids stuck to thier appendages... like millions of years old and preserved

 

[sickmanfraud]

You should be able to tell when the iso is "used" enough so that there's too much stuff in it to do a good cleaning.

I would never ever ever use ISO for RSO.

while Iso is not the preferred choice, I don't see too much problem with RSO, just not a tincture.

ISO is fatal if you ingest 200 ml at once. A fully evaporated RSO should be ok.

 

[uncanni]

while Iso is not the preferred choice, I don't see too much problem with RSO, just not a tincture.

ISO is fatal if you ingest 200 ml at once. A fully evaporated RSO should be ok.

Too dangerous in my view.

 

[MyCollie]

I am a long-term cancer survivor and I"ve had a new tumor this year. I've posted about this on a few forums. I am in a lot of pain and I'm working with the oncologists on a pain management treatment plan. I've decided to include more cannabis products into the plan. They're skeptical about it and I think if I wind up seeing the medical onc for chemo I'll have to stop. Anyway, I bought a variety of RSO and "regular" capsules and several syringes at the dispensary (FECO and RSO). Although I do have some Pax pods and crumble here I've found that I prefer edibles, tinctures, etc.

I'm a little bit confused about one thing though. The RSO capsules are listed at 10mg and the "regular" non RSO capsules are listed at at 10mg as well. Is the difference in the process by which they are made? The 10mg RSO capsule was pretty strong. I bought some 25mgs too and I'll probably hold off on those for a while.

Seems to me if I want to get the full benefit of the plant I should just stick with FECO capsules and syringes. I wish I could make my own oil here but just can't risk stinking this place up during the process.

 

[GoldenBud]

@MyCollie make yourself a pain-free capsules: get '00' size capsules, decarb alot of grinded weed in the oven, 120C, for 40 minutes. get 0.1g of the decarbed weed inside a capsule, that's 100mg in each capsule which is maybe like 20mg of THC.. consume it with some food and find your sweet spot!

 

[C No Ego]

I am a long-term cancer survivor and I"ve had a new tumor this year. I've posted about this on a few forums. I am in a lot of pain and I'm working with the oncologists on a pain management treatment plan. I've decided to include more cannabis products into the plan. They're skeptical about it and I think if I wind up seeing the medical onc for chemo I'll have to stop. Anyway, I bought a variety of RSO and "regular" capsules and several syringes at the dispensary (FECO and RSO). Although I do have some Pax pods and crumble here I've found that I prefer edibles, tinctures, etc.

I'm a little bit confused about one thing though. The RSO capsules are listed at 10mg and the "regular" non RSO capsules are listed at at 10mg as well. Is the difference in the process by which they are made? The 10mg RSO capsule was pretty strong. I bought some 25mgs too and I'll probably hold off on those for a while.

Seems to me if I want to get the full benefit of the plant I should just stick with FECO capsules and syringes. I wish I could make my own oil here but just can't risk stinking this place up during the process.

you will find however that adding the cannabis oil on top of chemo provides the rebuilding compounds to your anatomy ... just recently saw it in a vid where the child was receiving chemo and then a massive dose of RSO on top of that directly after chemo dose ... took down the kids rate of vomiting and like I mentioned the phytocannabinoid re build your anatomy . they are literlally lipid / terpene structures that form cells and people with lots of cells

the thearapeutic index for cannabis is extremely high @ around 50,000 to 1 ... the compounds therein are so safe they have that high of an therapy value ... that means that the compounds will offer medication /treatments without themselves becoming toxic or interfering with the treatemtns ETC....

 

[MyCollie]

Any thoughts on RSO that is described as 20mg THC / 5.1 mg CBN? This product is from a dispensary and I'd need to find out what they're making the RSO with but my guess is it's ethanol.

 

[GoldenBud]

Any thoughts on RSO that is described as 20mg THC / 5.1 mg CBN? This product is from a dispensary and I'd need to find out what they're making the RSO with but my guess is it's ethanol.

RSO is Ethanol by default, if they used another organic solvent they should have mention that! I think...
I looked over 10 HPLC tests in this website:

http://archive.analytical360.com/testresults

5.1mg CBN / 20mg THC ratio is bigger than all the tests I've checked so far, must be very well cured raw material I guess. and it will get you sleepy

examples:

Analytical 360 | Cannabis Analysis Laboratory for Medical Marijuana Patients

archive.analytical360.com

Analytical 360 | Cannabis Analysis Laboratory for Medical Marijuana Patients

archive.analytical360.com

Analytical 360 | Cannabis Analysis Laboratory for Medical Marijuana Patients

archive.analytical360.com

Analytical 360 | Cannabis Analysis Laboratory for Medical Marijuana Patients

archive.analytical360.com

Analytical 360 | Cannabis Analysis Laboratory for Medical Marijuana Patients

archive.analytical360.com

 

[shredder]

I use iso to make rso, then I dilute the rso in ethanol, freeze for a couple days and then refilter and render the mix down again.


This secondary step with ethanol makes a cleaner, safer concentrate. Filtering the frozen ethanol mix gets a lot of plant wax out. Freezing locks up moisture and plant wax in ice, and coffee filters trap them.

Iso extracts almost too well, but winterizing with ethanol cleans it up.

I can get 5 gallons of 99% iso for the price of one gallon of ethanol, so it makes sense to use iso initially, plus the two steps makes a cleaner product.

 

[Leadpipe58]

Thanks