the_cascadian
Well-Known Member
i've wondered if the the oil-rich vapor from dabs is healthy for the lungs. perhaps long-term use of bho could lead to problems like copd.
Reasons I Dislike Concentrates (Personal Reasons)
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the_cascadian
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that's exactly what i'm trying to get at in my post but i'm not eloquent enough to explain. i think there isn't enough questioning going on about bho, at least in the circles i'm familiar with. folks i know seem to think that just because it's cannabis it's completely healthy, even in the realm of a 2 gram/day habit.
Caligula
Maximus
Maybe you shouldn't follow the IG accounts of frat boys playing with 1000 dollar dab rigs and check out the likes of Steep Hill and SC labs. They have a lot of info about current research into concentrates as well as actual numbers to back stuff up. It's very interesting stuff to say the least. Or at least it's more educational than watching someone do "derrrrrbbbZzzzzzzzz!"
2clicker
Observer
just because things are not good for us doesnt mean they arent natural.
i understand your concern and in no way think i have the answer, but im pretty confident after thousands of years of cannabis use, that even concentrated cannabis is safe. i dont think its a fashion thing for most. more a convenient way to "get there" quickly and discreetly.
the_cascadian
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tuk
Well-Known Member
Natural selection is ancient ...human led selective breeding not so much.
It could be said dabbing is the healthier choice, since similar effects can be achieved with less particulate entering the lungs.
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Why would vaping\dabbing oil possibly be any more threatening to your lungs than burning flowers. When you burn flowers you get some of that very same oil, but then you also get a fuckton of burnt plant matter and shit inhaled into your lungs that is not present when dabbing oil.
I used to be a hardcore smoker for about 15 years. Countless bowls a day, always smoking. I could tell my lungs were going to shit. Coughing all the time etc. Now I strictly vape oil. The chronic cough is completely GONE, my lungs feel so much better. In a sitting I do a couple(2-3) dabs and i'm good. No more smoking a couple bowls per session. My Lungs are Happy!
I'm not the only person who's switched over from burning flower to vaping concentrates and have seen these improvements. I've seen similar posts.
2clicker
Observer
its the same switching from smoking flowers to vaping flowers. your lungs will thank you.
combustion actually destroys some of the actives before they get to your lungs. so by vaping you are getting more actives than with smoking.
Yup, before I dove into oils I began vaping with a volcano and did notice this as well, but then shortly moved on to dabbing Oils. Oil isn't bad in the volcano either, but I prefer to dab it.
Pharoh
Well-Known Member
Just quit your crying that you might ingest something not natural....
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Seriously you guys, just get colonic irrigation 5 times a week, I love the feeling of maple syrup washing between my cheeks! It's all natural!
Caligula
Maximus
I'm going to need some elaboration here, given your wording. Who's crying about what now? And what does any of this have to do with what I said?
There is no other choice but to breathe in the smog in traffic! But you have many choices for vaping. Why knock someone who wants to be as healthy as possible about it. Remember there may be many legitimate medical users on this forum who are fighting daily health battles and ANY little thing can tip the scales against them.
My 
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Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Remember there may be many legitimate medical users on this forum who are fighting daily health battles and ANY little thing can tip the scales against them.
Well said. I am one of those people.
DabComa
Stuck in Dab Coma
Arguably, the constant comparison to harder drugs that are chemically modified to become what they are is unjust. BHO does not depend on the addition of outside chemicals to be added and modified to become what it is, your simply using one chemical as ( sometimes mechanical action as well) a method of collection and transfer, and then removing it, thusly not leaving or depending on any chemical structure change to the oils from the plant already present.
Caligula
Maximus
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I thought that was for residuals that weren't butane?So about that last part regarding not leaving any chemicals...
DabComa
Stuck in Dab Coma
You missed my point completely. THC is gathered together and consumed. You have to add baking soda to turn your cocaine into crack. Theirs a difference. Residual components leftover from the gathering of said THC is not the fault of the combination or reaction, but simple user error.So about that last part regarding not leaving any chemicals...
Caligula
Maximus
Not so simple when you consider all these entries were top of the line, purpose made extracts from the biggest names in BHO for a contest where the EAs knew their entries would be tested for residuals.
In fact two of the 3 that actually passed the residuals testing were solventless extracts and only one was straight purged BHO.
@Quetzalcoatl yes it also included either pentane or hexane. I forget which... however that's irrelevant to my point.
DabComa
Stuck in Dab Coma
I'm not disputing your chart you found, if you paid attention to my wording I stated that it is unjust to compare BHO to harder drugs. Never anywhere did I say that all BHO is good and contains nothing of concern. All BHO is not created equally, and the only thing that chart proves is human error / ignorance. I could make a chart showing the number of corrupt police and what % corrupt they were. Could one look at that chart and then conclude that all police were bad? No. The same thing applys here. Different people applying different methods all thinking that there's is the best and cleanest. Let's take a random guess as to how many of them even have basic understanding of chemistry, let alone a degree, I'll put money on none, it's just not to that point, but some company's are actually starting to amp up their game and it will be nice when that happens. The main fact is that as long as the production remains unregulated, and any Joe shmoe with time and some herbs can make BHO, dirty improper products will continue to flood the market, especially when unknowing consumers are still supporting improper manufacture in the form of monetary support. It's up to the consumer to purchase wisely and not support bad manufacturers.
IF II INI C IHI
Aka VapeGod
If anyone here lives in Minnesota could you guys message me. Need some help with some things. We may be able to help each other
