Multi-brand Puri5 Titantic 2/Weeke Fenix

Meach

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I think you may have a point Greenfinger..but if the device didn't get the positive feedback it still be selling at $45 all day on Alibabba ...I jumped in after the first positive review..same thing happened with the first flower mates..a few got out into the wild under $70 I think..a positive thread starts more inquires to buy..manufacturer sees demand increases price..why sell 100 units for $4500 when you can sell 45 units at $100 and net the same..I really think they could corner the budget vape market if they leave this device available for under $80 ..market it as a beginner's vape..they really nailed it with the ease of use, an almost built in funnel to the herb chamber, pretty sturdy mouthpiece, and it's stealthy.(more pros just not listing) At $100 and a bit more there are some vapes that offer user replaceable batteries, glass mouthpieces, full temp control...so for Fenix to keep it sub $80 would make it stand out in the ever growing budget vape market.
 

Vapenic

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replaceable batteries, glass mouthpieces, full temp control...
...and they getting all their info of what "can be sold" from here. They should add, that CHEAP is the highest demand!
There is no way that this is only worth $50
Aluminium case: $0.15, PCB (LEDs, wires and microswitch inc.): $1.19, battery: $0.49, sensors: $0.01 + $0.16, profiled plastics: $0.10, resistor heater: $0.08, steel piece, formed (SAE 304) $0.02 plus packaging for about 10 pence delivered. Strictly speaking this makes it $2.4 to produce a FENiX, believe or not. Labour, taxes, marketing are vendor specific (they buy raw material by patents and assemble themselves normally). These prices are all from Alibaba, and the only factor making these brilliant little things so expensive is the lack of competition and knowledge. This is where forums, public discussions like FC coming into place, popularizing technology and widespread word of certain things must make the desired changes. E-cigs -subject of dumping nowadays- with two 18650 batteries, piezoelectric sensors, custom glass and ceramic pieces, high quality materials can be bought as cheap as $5-6 retail price, assembled, packed.
"is it still good value for money as a sub $100 vape? "
No.
 
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I think separating the OG Fenix since we do have a US retailer selling it at a price below the re-brands will lead people to look for a fenix and hopefully help people avoid overpaying for the device $99 base price at smokingvapor for a fenix vs $150 and up for a Puri5 or Tsunami or whatever else it's been called is not a bad idea.
 
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Vapenic

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I think separating the OG Fenix since we do have a US retailer selling it at a price below the re-brands will lead people to look for a fenix and hopefully help people avoid overpaying for the device $99 base price at smokingvapor for a fenix vs $150 and up for a Puri5 or Tsunami or whatever else it's been called is not a bad idea.
OK, so what about the EDIT Convector, which never -not yet- been sold over $49? Or what if someone finds/buy for example the Utillian 720, but never realized he could have get the same thing under a different name -for less- which can be learned in the original thread? Or shall we just end up listing all the rebrands here as well - only to duplicate the already existing post? I more tend to think, that this thread is more for Vape Dr. than Fenix TBH...
 
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thomaslzw

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What would be a good value sub $100 vape? I've been using my fenix for a while now and I was thinking of getting a few to give away to mates.

If site-rules disallow it, could you PM me the name of a suitable vaporizer? Unless that's disallowed as well.

More on-topic to this thread, have any of you noticed a decrease in battery capacity? Although I only use it on quite sparingly, I have quite a stoner housemate who seems to be using it quite a lot.

Also gibarian your video was what got me to buy it in the first place!
 
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Thanks, means a lot! Can't see rules for any recommendation/comparison issue, as long as it is not in a commercial manner. Technology-wise there are independent workshops creating good quality, but bad value vapes, like the Cloud EVO, or Crafty/Mighty etc. If you are a bit technical, and want to build yourself, get on Hippie Dickie's thread, its a miracle thing, he also not shy to say, how cheap parts are!

What I would suggest, just to be patient for a short while.
I have a feeling, that this new patent for a convection method, with an attached, closed airpath will soon be a new standard of Chinese products. They work fast, believe me. I actually have a first-hand information of a development, from a totally different company, which will probably beat the FENIX in many terms, but thats next year (if all well).

Otherwise many China-cheapo conduction device out there, most implements the same exact stuff inside - so it really is your call. I am pretty much done with these "first-gen" vapes, though they certainly do the job, and fairly safe after many, many, many burnoffs, (or one proper, opened "sweatout" as I call it, when you open the device to do the burn off.)

As per your question, I am about to rip apart a new piece of conduction device, which will -hopefully- tick many of the boxes (cheap, metallic mouthpiece with ceramic alumina filter in it, fused quartz chamber, isolated airpath, changeable battery, e-cig like, waterpiece-friendly etc.) for a good quality portable. Not naming it just yet, as I do not want to get associated with it, if I don't conclude to like it for any reason.

As per Fenix battery. Only after a few months, I do notice significant increase in charge time, and decrease in capacity, even though I am a very careful "charger" - never charge anything to 100%, aim the 70-80% range, also never discharge full. I think I am safe to state, that the battery is real crap, must be one of those "fold-up" technologies, which is the cheapest to produce, unfortunately not much to comment on its safety also, if it is - no scaremongering though, as it performs flawless for ALL who bought it, not one problem reported. But I am in the process of changing the accumulator to a proper HQ 18650, however this might alter the whole performance, so still learning beforehand.

Sorry if I didn't quite answer your question, but currently I am not comfortable to recommend anything else, than FENIX, for the RIGHT price (which it does not sell for ATM...) Maybe others can chime in, but both here and here you find lots of good read ;)
 

thomaslzw

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Thanks so much! I'll wait patiently for your next video and conduct some research of my own in the meantime!
 
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SuperLuigi

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Any updates on the price? I've been trying to find a way to get the fenix in Canada for a few months now and nothing. Either no stock or they don't ship to Canada. Hopefully this US distributors okay with shipping to Canada!
 
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SuperLuigi

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Is there any current way to buy the fenix for 50 anywhere? Seems like it's not much of a deal at current prices .
 
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rozroz

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They stated 3 weeks back at the end of September. Also, rumor has it from the manufacturer, they will not be receiving more units because they sold them below their recommended retail price.

Hope you're wrong..
The UK representative told me now they'll get some in 1-2 weeks..
 
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Again, i can just hope for another cheap restock.
Actually its my only way of getting a reasonable vaper because our customs pretty much confiscate them as a rule., so i wont waste more than 50$ anyway.
 
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Thats bad ... First time I hear it? Its an aromatherapy appliance, not regulated nor classified as drug paraphernalia - which country is that if I may ask?

Israel. Bad place for these things.
They dont buy that aromatherapy stuff.
Not only that, if you do wanna get your package you better make sure your medical legit cancer papers are available.
When i got the Imag plus shipped i didnt know that and luckily it got through mainly because it was discrete and the cheapest usps.
To think i would have waited for a GH, and wasted 200$ ?? No thanks.
Btw- thats the reason good vendors like Puffitup stopped shipments to Israel.
 
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SuperLuigi

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@SuperLuigi only way would be to get lucky on alibaba, otherwise you can get one for $75.

The comapny who sells them won't ship to Canada because a company has exclusive rights to them in Canada.

http://torontovaporizer.ca/utillian-720-vaporizer.html

A cool $220 CAD.

Smoking vapor has confirmed they ship to Canada

Awesome, i'll shoot them an email. Thanks!

Edit: They charge $40 to ship to Canada. So this thing would run me $105 USD which is $140 Cad. At that point, i wonder if i'm just better off getting something like a flowermate or whatever.

Wait for restock at the Edit shop..
https://www.everyonedoesit.com/aromatic-herb-vaperizer-kit-the-convector.html
Which should cost 50$.
They will alert in 2-3 weeks i hope.

I've been checking EDIT for about 2 months and they keep telling me 2-3 weeks. I dont think I believe them at all.
 
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rozroz

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I've been checking EDIT for about 2 months and they keep telling me 2-3 weeks. I dont think I believe them at all.

you may very well be right.
i'll try to bug the UK guy on FB to see if he can give a straight answer.

- it's a funny dialog actually.

he answers many questions, accept whether the price will stay at 39 pounds. slides through that.
 
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YaFreekin Right

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I am pretty sure that Torontovaporizer will ship to the UK.

But that would cost $219 for a "Utillian 720"... Quite the rip off, maybe you should re-read the thread.

Anyone know who I can buy one from in the UK? I don't mind which name it has on it!

I'd wait for EDIT to come back in stock since they are UK based.

If you want it now verdampftnochmal has stock in the EU.
 
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