Pulling a whitey

slick

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1) What is your definition of pulling a whitey? There seems to be different meanings. Is it the same as greening out?

2) If you're comfortable with it, share your experience.

3) What causes it? Any fact based evidence that you can share would be great. Opinions are always welcome, but please label them as such.
 

Skyscraper

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Pulling a whitey is when it looks like all the blood went from someone's face and they might pass out. Not sure if it's the same as greening out, as I think some claim the person's face looks sickly green.

Either way I think it's from inhaling such a huge volume of smoke/vapor and it makes a person nauseous. Marijuana also lowers the blood pressure I believe, and that may have something to do with the phenomenon. It hasn't really happened to me, I've definitely had some coughing fits that made the room spin though. Especially combusting. Fuck that shit
 

smokum

I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
For ME... I consider it when I've over done my personal inhalation volume limit to the point that my knees weaken, the room goes bright, and I feel like fainting, followed by a mass coughing fit and total body sweat soak, face white as a ghost yet like all my blood has moved to my head and is boiling over hot, quickly leading to nausea but not puking.

Last time it happened to me hard was when I was at a buddies place. He loaded a 3ft floor bong with a layering of Grapefruit, Grapefruit BHO, SSS kief, and topped with JTR. I'm not a BONG hitter normally, but it was a greedy evening and it bit me by the boo boo :ko:

The only times now that I 'ZONK' myself near the sweat out ultra blast is when I take too big a dab of concentrates.
 

MinnBobber

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1. A whitey is from consuming way more cannabis (than you usually do) and suddenly feeling supreme nauseu, like having the flu times 10. It can take hours to get over this all consuming bum body and mind trip. They call it a "whitey" because it often starts with one's buddy looking over and saying, you look white as a ghost". As skyscraper said , you almost pass out from the nausea and probably low blood pressure.
When one gets a whitey, you will know it and it's not like a coughing fit.

2. My wife came home so I'm outta here for now but I need to come back and write about my whitey in Amsterdam this year......
 

slick

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I should gave added 4) Any cure? @fidget mentioned in another thread to chew 3 pieces of peppercorn.
 
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MinnBobber

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I'm back:
whitey experience was in Amsterdam. For background, I was there playing in a sports tournament and staying with a host, who lent me their bicycle. They have little major crime BUT about 30% of all bikes are stolen each year, plus a lot of pickpockets and other theft-- WTF. This will come into play later ;)
I had gotten my buddy high for the first time in his life earlier mit der Verdampfer vape at a coffee shop. When asked how he felt, he said he really didn't feel any different, giggle, giggle, laughter......

Another day I headed out solo on the bike for a world famous coffee shop. Head in and get the Volcano to try out. Volcano virgin so the owner gives me the "how to" talk. I had some wonderful Amnesia Haze. Later, after replaying this I looked up Am Haze and it is listed as possible psychedelic effects.
I'm loading in the Volcano chamber which looks like the friken Grand Canyon compared to my miniVAP basket. Live it up in the Dam---so I'm putting in way more than usual. I'm bad! The owner leans over to see what I've loaded and in the most degrading tone in any language says " Pfffft, puuut sum in der" !!!
I tell her ---"but I'm a real lightweight". Then I get "THE LOOK". Ok, OK I'll put some more in there so the Grand Canyon gets more Amnesia Haze.
I proceed to work on 3 bags and halfway thru the third, it just hits me like a ton of bricks.
I beckon the owner and tell her I feel bad, really really bad and I won't be finishing the bag.

What should I do? They immediately get me a sugary sweet drink to chug. Their universal cure is cram that sugar. I proceed to feel worse and worse and worse. I'm like I should maybe go sit on the comfy couch but I cannot move one step. I'm thinking what if someone said here's a $100 to walk across the shop. Cannot do it. I am hard of hearing but suddenly can hear all 20 conversations going on there at once, and sort of understand them all. I'm thinking how bad is it? Well I'm feeling like I'm probably over the line where I need medical attention, this is bad. Fluck, I don't have my host's phone number or address, to call them for help.
They say fresh air --so carry me out front to sit where I cannot even hold my head upright. My chin is on my chest. People walking by are gawking and fondling my backpack. I feel farther over the line on needing help but resist.
They escort/carry me back to the big couch inside where it goes on and on for almost 2 hours. Then, still feeling totally wiped, I look up from this couch ( the only place in the coffee shop that could possibly see this out the narrow front door) and I slowly realize that that's my loaned bike, across the street...... with a guy draped over it, attempting to remove the lock AND STEAL IT.
NOOOOO-- it took every ounce of something to suddenly spring up and charge out the door and across the street. I'm like, what the h3ll are you doing and he mumbles something and runs off. What a rush.
I head back in as the staff and patrons are all wondering why did I burst out the door, was I skipping out on my bill...or what.
I said he was stealing my bike and am exhausted by this sidetrip. I sit more, drink more sugar until it's close to closing so I need to dig deep and bike home. I am still wasted but head out. What a trip that was as downtown Amsterdam with a million sights and sounds and lights at once and trying to make it home.
Note: the bike had brakes that barely worked, if you applied a deathgrip to them. And no light as required at night.
Made it home and never was so glad to hit that bed and try to recover.

Now normally I get pissed at the tourists who would go to Dam and get totally fuked up and act like idiots. Now here I was, being a fuked up tourist.
I usually take full responsibility for my actions BUT was pissed, in retrospect, at the owner who chided
me into going well beyond what I intended. Especially when I told her I was a cannabis lightweight.
I kind of trusted her judgment but should have gone with my gut feeling-----this is how much I want to vape.

The rest of the trip was awesome!! Fantastic town and really want to go back, to jump on that Volcano again but with my own judgment in place. Get back on the horse
 
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davesmith

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Whitey in my area of the UK is when you feel ill from consuming herb/hash. It's not having one big hit that makes you feel sick for a min but complete incapacitation.

Often symptoms are being white or a sickly green colour in your face, nausea and vomiting, panic attacks and reduced vision, lightheadedness, lack of strength etc.

I had a great whitey in 'dam where I felt ill so stood up to go outside and get some air. standing up really brought it on and once outside I proceeded to black out and run/fall the full length of the pavement outside the coffee shop windows and narrowly miss the canal. woops. Then I lay on the floor for about 10 mins, got up went back inside the coffee shop had a fizzy drink and a chocolate bar and was right as rain within about 25 mins. Was hilarious for everyone in the coffee shop (including my mates). I wasn't too fazed as I don't get panic with herb. If you're paniked it's 100x worse. Inexperienced tokers need to watch out for that!


As for remedies, elevating your feet above your head is great for helping low bloodpressure regarding conciseness, sugar obv helps, valerian hops camomile and other relaxing herbs can help the panic. I've heard a peppercorn stops anxiety but have yet to try it. Fresh air always helps.

Not fun but everyone has to have one. If you're one of those people who don't get whiteys (I've only had a couple in 12 years of smoking) then try overdosing on edibles. BLOODY HORRIBLE, trust me. lol
 

Radio

stay true to yourselves
I'm back:
whitey experience was in Amsterdam. For background, I was there playing in a sports tournament and staying with a host, who lent me their bicycle. They have little major crime BUT about 30% of all bikes are stolen each year, plus a lot of pickpockets and other theft-- WTF. This will come into play later ;)
I had gotten my buddy high for the first time in his life earlier mit der Verdampfer vape at a coffee shop. When asked how he felt, he said he really didn't feel any different, giggle, giggle, laughter......

Another day I headed out solo on the bike for a world famous coffee shop. Head in and get the Volcano to try out. Volcano virgin so the owner gives me the "how to" talk. I had some wonderful Amnesia Haze. Later, after replaying this I looked up Am Haze and it is listed as possible psychedelic effects.
I'm loading in the Volcano chamber which looks like the friken Grand Canyon compared to my miniVAP basket. Live it up in the Dam---so I'm putting in way more than usual. I'm bad! The owner leans over to see what I've loaded and in the most degrading tone in any language says " Pfffft, puuut sum in der" !!!
I tell her ---"but I'm a real lightweight". Then I get "THE LOOK". Ok, OK I'll put some more in there so the Grand Canyon gets more Amnesia Haze.
I proceed to work on 3 bags and halfway thru the third, it just hits me like a ton of bricks.
I beckon the owner and tell her I feel bad, really really bad and I won't be finishing the bag.

What should I do? They immediately get me a sugary sweet drink to chug. Their universal cure is cram that sugar. I proceed to feel worse and worse and worse. I'm like I should maybe go sit on the comfy couch but I cannot move one step. I'm thinking what if someone said here's a $100 to walk across the shop. Cannot do it. I am hard of hearing but suddenly can hear all 20 conversations going on there at once, and sort of understand them all. I'm thinking how bad is it? Well I'm feeling like I'm probably over the line where I need medical attention, this is bad. Fluck, I don't have my host's phone number or address, to call them for help.
They say fresh air --so carry me out front to sit where I cannot even hold my head upright. My chin is on my chest. People walking by are gawking and fondling my backpack. I feel farther over the line on needing help but resist.
They escort/carry me back to the big couch inside where it goes on and on for almost 2 hours. Then, still feeling totally wiped, I look up from this couch ( the only place in the coffee shop that could possibly see this out the narrow front door) and I slowly realize that that's my loaned bike, across the street...... with a guy draped over it, attempting to remove the lock AND STEAL IT.
NOOOOO-- it took every ounce of something to suddenly spring up and charge out the door and across the street. I'm like, what the h3ll are you doing and he mumbles something and runs off. What a rush.
I head back in as the staff and patrons are all wondering why did I burst out the door, was I skipping out on my bill...or what.
I said he was stealing my bike and am exhausted by this sidetrip. I sit more, drink more sugar until it's close to closing so I need to dig deep and bike home. I am still wasted but head out. What a trip that was as downtown Amsterdam with a million sights and sounds and lights at once and trying to make it home.
Note: the bike had brakes that barely worked, if you applied a deathgrip to them. And no light as required at night.
Made it home and never was so glad to hit that bed and try to recover.

Now normally I get pissed at the tourists who would go to Dam and get totally fuked up and act like idiots. Now here I was, being a fuked up tourist.
I usually take full responsibility for my actions BUT was pissed, in retrospect, at the owner who chided
me into going well beyond what I intended. Especially when I told her I was a cannabis lightweight.
I kind of trusted her judgment but should have gone with my gut feeling-----this is how much I want to vape.

The rest of the trip was awesome!! Fantastic town and really want to go back, to jump on that Volcano again but with my own judgment in place. Get back on the horse
Hahaha that's a great story. You succumbed to 'the look'! :lol:
 

sammosjoo

Grundle Extraordinaire
This was on New Years. I had been drinking for a bit and had taken a THC pill about 30 minutes before the shit went down. I had already been smoking out of a bowl for a little while and then BAM... I couldn't move. I fell down onto the couch and was completely incapacitated. If I moved even a little I started to feel sick so I ended up resting my head on my friends shoulder until I could get up and complete my misery in the bathroom lol.
10/10 would not do again
 
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t-dub

Vapor Sloth
In my experience a whitey comes from taking too large a hit or dab. White face, sweats, nausea etc, recovery is generally fairly quick. A green out comes from eating too many edibles and is the next step up. Its an entirely different ordeal lasting like 8 hours or longer with vomiting, diarrhea etc.
 

olivianewtonjohn

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I always thought green out was like a black out, passing out from smoking too much. Often you wake up in the same spot you were vaping/smoking
 
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Seren

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I've had a couple of whitey's over the years - but, not too many thank goodness. The first I ever experienced followed a heavy session of buckets at a friends house. I started feeling light headed. So, I got up to grab a drink, and that's when it hit me - big time - nausea, sweats, dizziness. I felt I was going to pass-out, so I literally dropped to the floor and crawled my way towards the glass of water. Such a great look! :D

Cannabis use has been linked to postural and vasovagal syncope (fainting). Whatever the underlying cause, a whitey certainly exhibits the symptoms of a significant drop in blood pressure - I get light headed, dizzy, clammy, pale and nauseous. I guess that's why I feel I have to hit the deck - to help blood flow to the brain, to avoid passing out. They pass pretty quickly upon lying down - so I'm pretty certain whitey's are primarily related to hypotension - but it's not something I've researched :2c:



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grokit

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I've had a couple of whitey's over the years - but, not too many thank goodness. The first I ever experienced followed a heavy session of buckets at a friends house. I started feeling light headed. So, I got up to grab a drink, and that's when it hit me - big time - nausea, sweats, dizziness. I felt I was going to pass-out, so I literally dropped to the floor and crawled my way towards the glass of water. Such a great look! :D

Cannabis use has been linked to postural and vasovagal syncope (fainting). Whatever the underlying cause, a whitey certainly exhibits the symptoms of a significant drop in blood pressure - I get light headed, dizzy, clammy, pale and nauseous. I guess that's why I feel I have to hit the deck - to help blood flow to the brain, to avoid passing out. They pass pretty quickly upon lying down - so I'm pretty certain whitey's are primarily related to hypotension - but it's not something I've researched :2c:



:peace:
Reading this I was thinking it could be as simple as hyperventilation :shrug:
 
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Reading this I was thinking it could be as simple as hyperventilation :shrug:

I can see why you're saying that, in light of the heavy bucket session. I can't rule out hyperventilation as a cause in terms of whitey's in general, especially for people who are prone to panic attacks...... but in my case at least, I do feel it's more to do with a drop in blood pressure - as my recovery can be almost immediate when I lay down. :shrug: :)
 
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slick

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Caffeine? Pseudoephedrine? Something to get the BP up may solve this.

That music video alone may do it.
 
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Always heard of this, never experienced it.

If I take too big of a hit I just cough for a long time. Saliva production too, I get massive spit floods especially if the herb hasn't been flushed properly or is wet.

as far as how to fix that not so great feeling when you've taken too big of a hit, I find small sips of water and lots of DEEP BREATHS to get the blood pumping in your lungs again.

When you take a hit of anything you are coating the insides of your lungs with resin. All that sticky golden (or black) shit you see in your pipe is also going into your lungs. Probably more of it in fact.

This coating irritates the little hairs and air sacs that bring oxygen into your lungs. By pumping blood into them, it hurts, but it also helps them restore normal function and helps you to feel better.

I am not a doctor and this is purely from my own experience.

TL;DR if you take too big of a hit, drink small sips of water or something warm like tea, and then try to breathe. You might cough, but thats good, keep breathing until you feel better. Works for me.
 
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