I found FC after I ordered but I still feel dirty. Principle is real important to me and it feel the puffit on the way to me is bad karma. Fleabay may get a listing, I dont need bad vibes and its time to go silent, reading all this just bums me out. Sorry to drag this thread further off topic
Howdy, BR, welcome to the fun! Great bunch here for the most part, here to help each other which is IMO about as good as it gets.
Bad Karma. That's it exactly. Very well put. For me the bitter taste would effect my enjoyment, you just stated it more simply and therefore clearly, thanks for that.
In the end, though, I have to disagree with you, such discussions (if kept civil) are exactly the true calling of such a forum, honestly sharing opinions and experiences for the collective benefit. Your post is more 'on topic' than most of mine.....not that that is a hard standard to meet.
Anyway, welcome and best wishes. I'm sure we'll be hearing more from you in the future.
I like FC because you can get both sides , yes most of it is accurate . imo
I do have to de-cypher between the real owners compare to the " shills " .
It's not really that hard . You have to read between the lines and phrasing .imo
I have also stated that FC ,
Is the perfect place for manufacturers and vendors' companies to promote their products .
Answer their concerns and issues , straight up . ( under their Company names ) .
If the product is a Dud , No amount of defending will help and they usually disappear to
the back pages .
I think the 2 should be on FC harmoniously .
Well IMO,
your opinions are spot on! Honest opinions and positive support from makers are a clear strength here, probably our best tools. While I agree you can often easily separate the scams from the honest folks, even usually, that's not always the case. Some are clever (some might say to the point of being evil), other times our good nature and desire to trust each other is used against us as happened here. I too was taken in, and am very grateful to the Moderators for having smelled the rat. IMO it's unfortunate that brought out the 'sounds like the way they do business' posts, it just points to the idea we should have been on guard.....and I hate that when one is with friends, don't you?
Absolutely 'both sides' should be here, honestly and with respect for each other. Anything else is automatically a loss. Thanks much for the comments.
I found FC
after I purchased the mflb . Kinda like you .
At first , I did not like the mflb ,
Then I went on FC and
Learned the proper way ( had lots of help ) of using the mflb .
Now I love the mflb , along with my NO2 , volcano and soon to be ....Solo
Never be silenced dude ,
It's the best you can offer someone ,...your word
Sending you some Good Vibes and Karma from Toronto , Canada .
Also an excellent point. Using any device well is key, and such skills with vapes generally are not easy for most. Our fellow users are a great resource in this, no doubt about it. And more power to us for it. Helping others is exactly the sort of values I was raised with, something I think is sadly missing too often.
In this case, however, being played for a fool by 'the guy we do business with' is hard to overcome for me. I've no doubt at all that the unit has some merit, and ego aside I'm confident I can learn to use it to best advantage (as the Beatles said "with a little help from my friends" if necessary) but that doesn't add up to pride of ownership....which I, like most, am actually trying to buy in the end.
"Never be silenced" is great advice, here and in life in general. Provided honesty and respect are part of that as appropriate.
Thanks also for the "Good Vibes and Karma from Toronto", they made it all the way to California in excellent working order at the speed of light.......I intend to apply them to the beautiful day that's starting here. There as well I hope.
Thanks again to all three of you, gentlemen, you've collectively made my day before it even got started. Now to tea and breakfast. Then I think to the garden, I can hear the birds tuning up even now.
OF